Abortions - Why so bad?

a reply to: Annee

My first abortion was spontaneous -- who do I blame?

It was a natural death.
The second was the premeditated killing of another human being.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Annee

My first abortion was spontaneous -- who do I blame?

It was a natural death.
The second was the premeditated killing of another human being.

They were the same -- no different.

Clump of cells removed.

Nothing more -- nothing less.

a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

A convenient perspective works both ways, in that, pro-life society is not doing enough to solve the issue of abortion, but rather only seems to create intense conflict. If a particular group (in this case women) are at conflict, the individuals of society should find the source of conflict and resolve it, not take away their freedoms and human rights.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

Until you have the procedure -- you have no real-life perspective.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

A convenient perspective works both ways, in that, pro-life society is not doing enough to solve the issue of abortion, but rather only seems to create intense conflict. If a particular group (in this case women) are at conflict, the individuals of society should find the source of conflict and resolve it, not take away their freedoms and human rights.

What freedoms are being taken?
The only human rights being violated are the rights of the human who is put to death.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

Until you have the procedure -- you have no real-life perspective.

That may be one of the most warped statements I have seen you post yet....
It's like a slaver saying "until you have lost a slave, you have no perspective".
Or like a Nazi saying "until you have killed your fist Jew, you have no perspective".

You are talking about exterminating a human beings life.
Regardless of any and all excuses you have, they are human beings.
You have no argument, other than feelz.

You talk about "real-life perspective" but believe a fantasy.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Annee

My first abortion was spontaneous -- who do I blame?

It was a natural death.
The second was the premeditated killing of another human being.

They were the same -- no different.

Clump of cells removed.

Nothing more -- nothing less.

What ever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
UNTERMENSCH

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Annee

My first abortion was spontaneous -- who do I blame?

It was a natural death.
The second was the premeditated killing of another human being.

They were the same -- no different.

Clump of cells removed.

Nothing more -- nothing less.

What ever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
UNTERMENSCH

You are projecting your emotions -- not mine.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

A convenient perspective works both ways, in that, pro-life society is not doing enough to solve the issue of abortion, but rather only seems to create intense conflict. If a particular group (in this case women) are at conflict, the individuals of society should find the source of conflict and resolve it, not take away their freedoms and human rights.

Lame excuse to justify ending a life on the premise there's not enough in place to support for the living. Using that logic we should just kill the poor and homeless.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

Until you have the procedure -- you have no real-life perspective.

Again, convenient perspective. Nothing more.

originally posted by: loam

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

Until you have the procedure -- you have no real-life perspective.

Again, convenient perspective. Nothing more.

You think for you -- I'll think for me.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: loam

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

Until you have the procedure -- you have no real-life perspective.

Again, convenient perspective. Nothing more.

You think for you -- I'll think for me.

Advice you never take for yourself.

a reply to: Annee

So until I commit murder I can’t comment that I find murder wrong?

Nice logic fruitcake.

originally posted by: loam

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Annee

Convenient perspective. Nothing more.

A convenient perspective works both ways, in that, pro-life society is not doing enough to solve the issue of abortion, but rather only seems to create intense conflict. If a particular group (in this case women) are at conflict, the individuals of society should find the source of conflict and resolve it, not take away their freedoms and human rights.

Lame excuse to justify ending a life on the premise there's not enough in place to support for the living. Using that logic we should just kill the poor and homeless.

When some of the reasons women are forced to choose abortion is because of lack of support and a bleak future for her and the child she bears, then it should become an important factor to all of society. Your tax dollars should have gone into research to save unborn lives via surrogate technological solutions, support and programs for women and the children they are forced to bear, childcare for continuing education, etc.

These laws banning abortion were put in place without any support to women who can't afford to travel for an abortion and/or pay for the abortion, freedom to pursue happiness, freedom to choose based on critical factors such as physical and mental health. Also the adoption process is broken in so many ways. Yet, what path was chosen? To strip women of their freedoms and human rights.

a reply to: quintessentone

Still murder.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: quintessentone

Still murder.

Legalized murder, same as where your tax dollars go to the government war machine.

a reply to: quintessentone

Piss poor analogy...and I don't support the war machine either.

Just to be clear, I used to be with the safe, legal and rare crowd, until the bull# crazies pushed for no limits.

I'm done with compromising my principals. It's murder. Period.

MURDER: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:

A legal medical procedure is not murder.

Personal sentiments do not make it so.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: quintessentone

Piss poor analogy...and I don't support the war machine either.

Just to be clear, I used to be with the safe, legal and rare crowd, until the bull# crazies pushed for no limits.

I'm done with compromising my principals. It's murder. Period.

From what I've read - meaning I did my own research - nobody pushed for no limits. Convenient made up excuse to push agendae.