Ukraine Making Significant Gains in Eastern Counter-Offensive

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: gortex

we knew that narrative was born from desperation and peddled by the sympathizers of the Fascist invaders.

Of which many appear to have gone quite as of late.

I wonder why ?

Conscripted!

Former Kremlin Aide Says Putin Ouster Could Be Right Around the Corner


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Real interesting. I don't know the full truth of this story but it's good news if true.

“Putin’s image is tarnished,” Gallyamov told CNN on Thursday. “The next thing which is going to happen in Russian politics within the next like several months, maybe up to half a year, is the elites will start looking for a successor.”

Gallyamov isn’t the only one reading between the lines. A group of officials in St. Petersburg and Moscow have begun calling for Putin’s ouster. Some of the officials have accused Putin of high treason for invading Ukraine. Since demanding Putin step down, a court in Russia has ordered the dissolution of a municipal council that wants Putin out of office.

And listen to this:

Putin has become so desperate he has tried to create a new fighting force made up of “recruited” prisoners. But at this stage in the conflict, if Putin were to lean on a broader mobilization or draft, the public would revolt, Gallyamov predicted.

“If Putin starts making this national draft, he really faces the danger of riots,” Galyamov said. “Russians are not willing to go to wage this war. They are not ready to go and sacrifice their lives, especially at the moment when the Ukrainians are advancing, and Russians are retreating.”

Absolutely. Putin proved he was an ignorant fool for starting this ridiculous war no Russian wants to die for. His depraved ego and grand scheme of self-glorification. Not any cause for any moral, ethical or strategic reason for young Russians to die or kill for.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Wishful thinking.
From Such news outlets like the thedailybeast and daily mail which had claimed that Putin was in a car accident that never happened.

Europe's ecmcony is the one that is sinking further down.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Absolutely. Putin proved he was an ignorant fool for starting this ridiculous war no Russian wants to die for

It wasn't Russia that started this conflict it was the US. They pushed Ukrainians into further fighting the separatists, long before the Russians went in Eastern Ukraine.



If anyone was a fool it would be the US into thinking they will still win.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Its a bit amusing your using daily beast.


A Liberal news outlet which had being wrong about the conflict in Syria for the past 11 years currently... But hey that's the you would believe as much you would on daily mail.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: peaceinoutz

Absolutely. Putin proved he was an ignorant fool for starting this ridiculous war no Russian wants to die for

It wasn't Russia that started this conflict it was the US. They pushed Ukrainians into further fighting the separatists, long before the Russians went in Eastern Ukraine.



If anyone was a fool it would be the US into thinking they will still win.

Wait, the Ukrainians needed 'pushing' to fight off foreign invaders?

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

Something you russians should be pretty grateful for right now, your military is 50 years behind. What's left of it anyway.

If anything ever proves that NATO never had any interest in invading russia, it's right now when you're practically defenseless and we still have no interest.

Other than laughing, we're doing a lot of laughing.

Time to get over your US/NATO boogeyman already.

a reply to: spacedoubt


Mass grave Izium , this does not surprice anyone anymore, where Russians left mass graves is expected .

A mass grave with 440 bodies found in Izium – Police

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: peaceinoutz

Absolutely. Putin proved he was an ignorant fool for starting this ridiculous war no Russian wants to die for

It wasn't Russia that started this conflict it was the US. They pushed Ukrainians into further fighting the separatists, long before the Russians went in Eastern Ukraine.

If anyone was a fool it would be the US into thinking they will still win.

So the US are responsible for the Ukrainian response to the uprising funded and supported by Russia and the mercenaries Russia sent to Eastern Ukraine to fight the fight ?

I guess the US are also responsible for the brutal Russian response to the Chechnyan uprising too.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

actually laughed at this, America isn't involved...... just the pocket change of $13.5 billion sent over there to fight a war.

Without America, Ukraine would be part of a reinstated USSR by now.

originally posted by: Stu112

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

actually laughed at this, America isn't involved...... just the pocket change of $13.5 billion sent over there to fight a war.

Without America, Ukraine would be part of a reinstated USSR by now.

Sending defensive weapons to a country being invaded by a bully is not 'involved' and you know it.

Do you want the US and NATO to get involved?

Cuz we can do that any time we choose you know.

Do you think what's left of your 50 year out of date military would last 24 hours against the US or NATO?

I don't.

When was the last time America won a war?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Stu112

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

actually laughed at this, America isn't involved...... just the pocket change of $13.5 billion sent over there to fight a war.

Without America, Ukraine would be part of a reinstated USSR by now.

Sending defensive weapons to a country being invaded by a bully is not 'involved' and you know it.

Do you want the US and NATO to get involved?

Cuz we can do that any time we choose you know.

Do you think what's left of your 50 year out of date military would last 24 hours against the US or NATO?

I don't.

originally posted by: Stu112
When was the last time America won a war?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Stu112

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

actually laughed at this, America isn't involved...... just the pocket change of $13.5 billion sent over there to fight a war.

Without America, Ukraine would be part of a reinstated USSR by now.

Sending defensive weapons to a country being invaded by a bully is not 'involved' and you know it.

Do you want the US and NATO to get involved?

Cuz we can do that any time we choose you know.

Do you think what's left of your 50 year out of date military would last 24 hours against the US or NATO?

I don't.

1991.

Been sucking at 'nation building' ever since.

Feeling lucky?

We're not in a 'nation building' mood.

If you won in 1991 you wouldn't need to have started the illegal war after 9/11

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Stu112
When was the last time America won a war?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Stu112

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

Absurd.

russia did this all by themselves and we aren't even involved.

actually laughed at this, America isn't involved...... just the pocket change of $13.5 billion sent over there to fight a war.

Without America, Ukraine would be part of a reinstated USSR by now.

Sending defensive weapons to a country being invaded by a bully is not 'involved' and you know it.

Do you want the US and NATO to get involved?

Cuz we can do that any time we choose you know.

Do you think what's left of your 50 year out of date military would last 24 hours against the US or NATO?

I don't.

1991.

Been sucking at 'nation building' ever since.

Feeling lucky?

We're not in a 'nation building' mood.

Americans - how do you feel about your tax dollars going to a war that apparently your not involved in?

originally posted by: Stu112
Americans - how do you feel about your tax dollars going to a war that apparently your not involved in?

Hope Ukraine kicks Russia out...glad we're not fighting there...but unhappy we spent so much $$$.
It's needed here...No more $$$ to Ukraine.
There has to be a financial limit...and it's been reached and surpassed IMO.

We've given Ukraine over $50b...perhaps actually TWICE that.

If they can't win with all that...it's not the US's fault.

a reply to: Stu112

I'm not American, but if the West gives Putin a free go here, his next target may get NATO involved.

That would be bad.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Stu112

I'm not American, but if the West gives Putin a free go here, his next target may get NATO involved.

That would be bad.

Sincere question: How much HAS the UK spent on Ukraine since the war?

a reply to: IAMTAT

No idea.

But you could could try Googling?

a reply to: IAMTAT

£2.3 B as of 15th August but maybe more since?


commonslibrary.parliament.uk...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: IAMTAT

£2.3 B as of 15th August but maybe more since?


commonslibrary.parliament.uk...

Not much, really.
Would you be okay with the UK spending as much as the US has?

Otherwise...it comes off as you being all 'Gung Ho' on unlimited Ukraine spending...as long as some other country's taxpayers are footing the lion's share of the bill.