Why Are People So Mad about the Biden 10K forgiveness

That'll leave me right at an amount that can be paid off in one go. Awesome.


People that's mad: I'm sorry, seethe.

a reply to: JAGStorm

$52,000 for 2 years of nursing school.
$12,000 for Paramedic School
$600 for EMT-I
$0.00 since 11 years old I was part of a great group of friends who's parents taught EMT'S and paramedics. We we're the "patient's" they practiced on. So I was working right out of highschool.

I can't begin on the thousands of Hours and money spent on Firefighter training. Many hours volunteering at 3 local fire departments.

Paid it off, all of it while paying off my home, 2 cars and a motorcycle.


I'm not rich, but I'm stable. My sister took 5 years to pay off her Nursing Student loan.

Honestly, everything comes back to bite me in the ass quarterly then bi-anuslly. I'm happy that there are some that are working to pay off debt, then getting some help.

So long as those whom went to school, then got jobs/career , so they can start paying taxes.

School taxes very so this year was around $3500.

The United States Government will simply raise taxes and get our money back.


Thanks for posting Jag.👍😉
On cellphone so forgive me I'd there is errors.

a reply to: Bigburgh

n bi-anuslly

If this is a typo, then it is the funniest typo ever!

I think we need to think long and hard about certain professions, like firefighting.
Why isn’t that covered like the military?
I know in my entire region they can’t get enough firefighters. It’s getting to critical levels and they are begging for people.

Because like DB said: it’s unconstitutional!!! Congress controls the purse. For God’s sake this isn’t about how people feel, it’s illegal for the Executive branch to enact, it requires CONGRESS

a reply to: JAGStorm

My husband and I both went to college. I was living in real poverty when I was in school. We didn't have help from our parents. I worked three jobs at one point and went to school on and off. It was horrible and I hope nobody has to go through that. Even though college was very cheap at the time so was pay.

I'm curious how did that work out for you and your husband ? Did college Pay Off ? Are you now working in the field of your College studies making above average income ?

I for one Have many Family Members and Friends who attended four year colleges and work in Jobs that have literally nothing to do with there Degrees , They struggle right along side the uneducated and have College Debt on top of there struggles .

The point I'm making is College is a scam , In-Particular the Four Year Universities handing out pointless Degrees for Hundreds of thousands$$ . Now of course Medical School and Law School are well worth the Money and effort , but there are so many degrees offered at so many Universities that will lead you to a dead end .

I for one am College educated and A Military veteran , Which do you think has landed me more Jobs ?

In the end what I'm saying is this Debt forgiveness is a slap in the face to everyone who has payed for there Degrees.

a reply to: AllSeeingEye2025


Ok, this is not free money, it will cost the taxpayer over 300b dollars and will no help a darn thing, but inflation will skyrocket.

Yep nothing is free, NOTHING

This is teaching that you can take loans get in debt and spend the money and get a government had out for a few dollars while the tax payer get stuck with billions.

interestingly all that stimulus now is to be pay back for the government loan scam

a reply to: BlueJacket

Biden is going to invoke some act that was made during the Bush administration.

It seems that under the socialist is only one party in power and they call the shots, darn the constitution, who needs congress, biden is the man

Its should not be a blanket deal. Help out the STEM students and that's it if anything.

The last thing I want us to give a break to some blue haired, man hating gender studies slob.

a reply to: marg6043
I expect this to be challenged in the courts. I didn’t think you could create an act that amended the powers enumerated to the 3 branches of government without a convention ratified by the States…

Sigh

Eta. Pelosi even said the President doesn’t have the power to forgive debt in April: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

a reply to: BlueJacket

It is true and the reason why we got 3 branches of government, but lately we have seen how democrats are above the law and ruling over constitutional rights.

It’s unconstitutional and illegal.

Joe Biden’s student loan bailout violates both the U.S. Constitution and statutory law. While the distinction is worth nothing, it is redundant: “Unconstitutional” is another way of saying “illegal.” Anything not authorized by Article I, Section 8, of the U.S. Constitution violates our national charter. The Founding Fathers gave us the right to amend the Constitution, but we may never ignore it. That’s precisely what this announcement does. “The president of the United States does not have the legal authority to cancel contract, and that is exactly what he is doing: He is voiding a repayment contract, and he does not have the ability to do that,” Rep. Bryon Donalds (R-Fla.) told “Washington Watch” guest host Joseph Backholm on Wednesday. Not so long ago, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) agreed. “People think that the president of the United States has the power for [student loan] debt forgiveness,” Pelosi told the media last July. “He does not have that power. That has to be an act of Congress.”

So what is he doing,

Biden’s plan also violates existing statutory law. When former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos inquired whether she had the legal right to grant mass student loan cancellation, her department’s general counsel analyzed all relevant laws — including the HEROES Act — and replied that the executive branch does not have the “statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans … and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof.” Any bill to write-off a debt is a spending bill which must originate with Congress. On the contrary, the federal government has a legal requirement to “try to collect a claim of the United States Government for money.” The opinion noted that Congress does not “hide elephants in mouseholes.” That is, Congress does not “impliedly delegate a policy decision of massive economic and political magnitude — as blanket or mass cancellation, compromise, discharge, or forgiveness of student loan principal balances … to an administrative agency.”

washingtonstand.com...

How is the biden administration to bypass congress? well we got two months before mid term, he can issue an EO and see how that goes or try to ram a house bill and vote in the senate with only their democrats' seats + the vice president like they have been doing with the inflation looting bill.

The it will be mid term and they can claim Republicans are bad and do not want to help the poor.

It sounds like a plot for campaign. Because Truly democrats do not care about anything but themselves and how much the can loot the tax payer for scams.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It's because I have busted my arse my whole life and to watch what these so-called mature adults are doing with MY money is BS. That's why. You took out the loan, YOU PAY IT BACK !!!

It's that simple.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Why should a person making $40,000, or less a year have to pay an extra $2,000 in taxes to pay for a $10 or $20,000 giveaway to someone earning $125,000?

This is nothing more than a bribe for votes.

And as DB said, it's not constitutional. Congress holds the power of the purse. Biden is acting like a dictator, or emperor. He doesn't have the authority.


Nancy Pelosi Say President Doesn’t Have The Power To Do Debt Forgiveness

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Some countries have a system that after high school you take a very intensive test to see if you should go to college. If you pass, you go to college for "free". It seemed to work well and be well accepted.

US high schools have (or used to have) this with their Valedictorian, benefits ranging from first year college paid to full free ride.

I'm not going to accept "Life isn't fair, suck it up" over the Biden handout. This is a slap in the face with a wet diaper to those who took the responsible way out, who put in the tough years and paid their obligations.

My vote is set for this fall and 2024, and it's not for the party of Santa Claus.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Firstly. biannually and typing stinks on ice.

It's not what it's like post 9/11. The fanfare is fading.

If you have kids old enough, get them interested in volunteering at your local ems or fire company.

Learn CPR.

I'm not familiar with your area yet kinda.
Our department local 1038 station 100 was not quite military yet the Chiefs truck got washed daily by grunts newbies. It's very well structured.

We hired young guys out of college that would get on their high horse because they went to an ivy league college. They quit a few months later.

We had battalions that work 24's on 2 off plus 12 hours overtime every other Saturday.

Pinkerton a international company use to cover Pittsburgh international till Pittsburgh international airport made a full time fire dept. (a college degree is now required)
The department pays for the academy when hired. We have an ARFF training facility just off site

Pittsburgh international airport also trains Fire Departments nationally and internationally. God the crew from Puerto Rico. They always brought home made Pitorro. Had to learn a couple languages to keep up.

Penndot handles ems licenses for
paramedics and emt's.

Back in Nevada it was originally county before regional.

In a nut shell, not military yet veterans got first pick, mostly Navy and Air force. And it was worth it. There are strictly ARFF military personnel you'll find at military installations.
We handled the 171's ARW Kc-135's and the 911th AW's C-17's ( one night a C-17's wing started dumping fuel and there were no personnel on site ) they were flying over seas next morning. A tarp and Kitty litter party.

There are Air Force firefighters there... But sometimes.


Thorry for the typos. I lost my tablet and this thing is tiny.

Jnmi was asking about training too. Legally I have to cover my butt. Never give or receive basic "Training" from strangers or Online.


However, it's always good to learn new things.

I forgot to mention Meals On Wheels, I did it for the local church. My grandmother did it before I existed, and made me go with her on deliveries.

Damn I had a great childhood.

So now I pay taxes till.... tick tick tick.😉

a reply to: JAGStorm


Well , his Insolent Attitude Towards Suffering Americans for One.......

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

What I find ironic is that helping Univ. students and their loan is terrible but.....

The trillions of dollars in subsidies paid to the oil companies, even though they reap obscene profits, is ok with the GOP republicans.
And still get raped when you fill up your tank.



short-facts.com...

a reply to: JAGStorm

The reason I am upset about this is simple: it is rewarding people for making commitments they cant keep and punishing people for following through on their agreements, or worse yet punishing people for not taking on a debt they knew they could not afford in the first place.

I think that $10,000 would be better spent giving it to people who cant afford higher education to give them a chance to compete for better jobs with people who also cant afford higher education - but assumed the debt anyway.

Tax payers should not be forced to reward fiscal irresponsibility on the part of others. The irresponsible ones should be made to pay the rest of us for their default which ends up costing us all something. Case in point...

a reply to: olaru12

You act like this is some new startling revelation like you super based roflmao both the dems and repubs suck the balls of corporations.

Neither GAF about the plebs.


You know better.

a reply to: JAGStorm

No, it's because it ISN'T loan FORGIVENESS, it's using MY money to pay for THEIR bad choices. They got a service for an agreement to pay back a loan for said service (college or university degree).

The main problem though is that the president doesn't get to unilaterally allocate funding like this. That is congresses job


I chose to make a different decision for better or worse, went into the military with an extra year on the contract for a 40K college fund and ended up getting 3 degrees with that funding and the gibill. No debt incurred.

So MY taxes get to pay for THEIR choice to incur debt? I sacrificed for my country and got rewarded for that. They made a bad choice and get rewarded for THAT.

the president doesn't get to unilaterally allocate funding like this. That is congresses job, not the president.

Jaden