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originally posted by: Quadrivium
Because, like killing slaves was at one point in history, abortion is legal.
Therefore, it is the premeditated killing of a human being.

The Constitution begs to differ, embryos have no legal status as they are not born.

a reply to: olaru12

Then go vote in your state elections

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

the formal and technical language of legal documents that is often hard to understand

And you're saying codified law does not qualify as a legal document?

If you have a hard time understanding the definition of homicide that's on you.

When did we switch to "homicide"? We were debating the meaning of "legaleeze." Why did you change the word? Are you trying to play semantic goal post moving again?

And again, why did you change "killing" to "murder" before? This is the third time I have asked that question.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Because, like killing slaves was at one point in history, abortion is legal.
Therefore, it is the premeditated killing of a human being.

The Constitution begs to differ, embryos have no legal status as they are not born.

Hence, abortion is the premeditated killing of a human being.
Maybe you are catching on.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The Constitution says one is a person and the other is not.

*happy dance*

AugustusMasonicus actually answered a question! Three cheers for AugustusMasonicus!

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Now, let's try for two in a row... I have faith in you!

On June 23rd of 2022, abortion was legal during the first trimester in the entire United States, as per the US Constitution as interpreted in Roe v. Wade. On June 24th of 2022, abortion was no longer protected in the United States by the US Constitution as interpreted in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.

Did the Constitution change during June of 2022?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Because, like killing slaves was at one point in history, abortion is legal.
Therefore, it is the premeditated killing of a human being.

The Constitution begs to differ, embryos have no legal status as they are not born.

So if a pregnant woman was murdered and both woman and child died, the murderer to be charged for the death of the child and mother is wrong to you. Good to know that you disagree with all those blue states who would consider that 2 counts of murder.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
And you're saying codified law does not qualify as a legal document?

I'm saying the definition of homicide is not 'formal and technical language of legal documents that is often hard to understand'. Or at least it isn't for me.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Hence, abortion is the premeditated killing of a human being.

The Constitution says they are not human beings and are not afforded any rights since they are not born.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Did the Constitution change during June of 2022?

Of course it didn't, I said as much earlier.

originally posted by: Skepticape
So if a pregnant woman was murdered and both woman and child died, the murderer to be charged for the death of the child and mother is wrong to you.

I think it's a stretch to be honest, when that's done it's to extract an even harsher sentence. Like hate crimes.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Hence, abortion is the premeditated killing of a human being.

The Constitution says they are not human beings and are not afforded any rights since they are not born.

MUHUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Wait....
Do you honestly believe that or are you grasping at straws because you are starting to realize the 'scumbagery' of your stance?

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm saying the definition of homicide is not 'formal and technical language of legal documents that is often hard to understand'. Or at least it isn't for me.

Some states have pretty confusing laws. As far as that goes, some US law is pretty confusing. I have had to read several laws several times to understand what it is trying to say.

But regardless, the definition said "often." Is "often" the same as "always"?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Quadrivium
Do you honestly believe that...

Of course, because I like the and understand the Constitution.

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Some states have pretty confusing laws.

On homicide? Doubtful. At least they wouldn't be confusing to me, it's a pretty straight forward transgression.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Did the Constitution change during June of 2022?

Of course it didn't, I said as much earlier.

2 for 2. Color me impressed.

If the Constitution didn't change, what did?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
If the Constitution didn't change, what did?

Potentially state-level laws at this point as I also mentioned earlier.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Regardless of your self-described legal excellence, is "often" the same as "always"?

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Regardless of your self-described legal excellence, is "often" the same as "always"?

I would say that premeditated homicide laws are always easy to understand. At least for me, I can't speak for those easily confused by a simple premise.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: TheRedneck
If the Constitution didn't change, what did?

Potentially state-level laws at this point as I also mentioned earlier.

Not in every state. Not even in most states. The state laws were already on the books.

Would you consider it accurate to say that the Supreme Court interpretation of the Constitution changed?

TheRedneck

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