What a terrible day - 21 dead most are children

originally posted by: Brotherman
hopefully this is a wake up call to securing our borders better against violent invaders.

What in the flying F does this have to do with this shooting? His Hispanic name? He was a born American citizen with legally purchased weapons.

a reply to: Zrtst


It isn't a lack of funding, and hasn't ever been.

It's a political group that is 100% opposed to securing schools and put signs up near every school entrance in the country 25 years ago telling students that nobody on school property has the means to stop a shooter.

After that same group ensured that nobody on school property had the means to stop a shooter.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: CryHavoc

Not blaming any gun owners
But blaming the easy access to guns in US would be something to consider.
Making it far more likely some of these million of guns in circulation will end up in the wrong hands
If you disagree with that.. look at these numbers and ask yourself what makes US stand out
worldpopulationreview.com...

I blame public schools. I mean its just as arbitrary. We can blame guns all day long but who used this piece of clay to mold him into a instrument of terror? Was he abused by a teacher at this school and that is why he went back? Did some teacher at this school do something to the kid?

We can speculate until sundown but guns don't just kill people on their own. This kid was probably perverted by the left and turned into a terrorist. Never let a good crisis go to waste, or something like that.. Manchuria..

Can you imagine hearing or reading this story about a mentally ill person who attempted to kill their own grandma, then planned out and went to an elementary school to murder as many children as possible... and the thing that makes you angry is the gun. Not the mentally ill person intent on murdering children, but the gun. I'll never understand that.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Can you imagine hearing or reading this story about a mentally ill person who attempted to kill their own grandma, then planned out and went to an elementary school to murder as many children as possible... and the thing that makes you angry is the gun. Not the mentally ill person intent on murdering children, but the gun. I'll never understand that.

Not so much the guns, but the ease of which someone in this mental state was able to legally obtain them.

in 1994 bill clinton signed a bill banning assault weapons mass shooting deaths dropped 43% this stood 10 years until the republicans let it lapse in 2004 mass shooting deaths went up 239% and texas governor abbott , mcconnell and trump will be at the annual NRA conference IN TEXAS on fri to speak oh the hypocrisy .......................these children have to be identified with DNA becuase the assault rifle destroyed them making visual identification impossible

a reply to: CryHavoc

originally posted by: research100
in 1994 bill clinton signed a bill banning assault weapons mass shooting deaths dropped 43% this stood 10 years until the republicans let it lapse in 2004 mass shooting deaths went up 239% and texas governor abbott , mcconnell and trump will be at the annual NRA conference IN TEXAS on fri to speak oh the hypocrisy .......................these children have to be identified with DNA becuase the assault rifle destroyed them making visual identification impossible

a reply to: CryHavoc

Important news. I'm sure the repub talking heads will blame this all on the democrats and Bill Clinton's wicked and vile ways in the White House.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Brotherman
hopefully this is a wake up call to securing our borders better against violent invaders.

What in the flying F does this have to do with this shooting? His Hispanic name? He was a born American citizen with legally purchased weapons.

So he wasn't illegal, just a mentally ill Latino domestic terrorist? Got it, noted.

a reply to: putnam6

Your assessment isn't wrong, but to move back to Japan right away way over this? seems like a tad bit of an overreaction.

My wife has hated the U.S. ever since I brought her here. It really has become a 3rd world craphole when compared with Japan.

originally posted by: Jaellma

originally posted by: research100
in 1994 bill clinton signed a bill banning assault weapons mass shooting deaths dropped 43% this stood 10 years until the republicans let it lapse in 2004 mass shooting deaths went up 239% and texas governor abbott , mcconnell and trump will be at the annual NRA conference IN TEXAS on fri to speak oh the hypocrisy .......................these children have to be identified with DNA becuase the assault rifle destroyed them making visual identification impossible

a reply to: CryHavoc

Important news. I'm sure the repub talking heads will blame this all on the democrats and Bill Clinton's wicked and vile ways in the White House.

The elephant in the room is societies disdain for accountability, responsibility and discipline. The blame lies solely on the murderer.

originally posted by: baggy7981

originally posted by: tamusan
How did the people get this way? Those reasons are what really needs to be addressed.

The internet and violent video games. It's no coincidence that the most popular games are mostly multiplayer shooters.

NOPE. its been studied,and thats not it. Many people who play those games actually have reduced stress levels and are less likely to kill someone.

That mexican boy was just nutters is all.And coincidence does not exist btw. The boy was another government patsy set on this path with careful manipulation. why? because they need us to beg for dis armament.

BEst way to save schools is to make them secure as prisons. no guns inside,no weapons,plastic forks/spoons. Shoot most kids go to prison anyway so go ahead and get them used to it.

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: putnam6

Your assessment isn't wrong, but to move back to Japan right away way over this? seems like a tad bit of an overreaction.

My wife has hated the U.S. ever since I brought her here. It really has become a 3rd world craphole when compared with Japan.

Its just because she dont like most gaijin. lol.

a reply to: research100

Saint Bill Clinton, the same one implicated in all sorts of criminal activity, the same one who advocated bombing the holy crap out of Yugoslavia?

I'm sure his gun control views are purely for the protection of children.

From a conservative sports guy

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Some real bad acting there, sounds like Gilbert Gottfried on meth.

Your constitution served your country well enough to become the most powerful in the world, some raving lunatic sports journalist is hardly expert opinion. Just because you shout doesn't make your points anymore valid.

Remember when kids over there were brought up with belief in God? You know when they thought there was a meaning to life, when there was a moral obligation and perceived eternal consequences for such actions? Remember when they had a family unit and traditional roles, when mothers stayed at home spending time with children, when they had respect for parents? Now our children are raised in a world devoid of worship, parented by the TV and computer screens, bombarded daily with disgusting propaganda with role models who openly worship Satan.

a reply to: Hecate666

Meanwhile we do have stabbings galore, so the ID crap only stops normal people trying to get kitchen knives.

Normal people have ID all the same Hecate666 and to my knowledge not that many peeps under 16 have their own kitchens unless they are budding Ainsley Harriotts.

And your are correct it certainly don't stop them from taking knives from home but that does not mean they should be able to purchase them at the drop of a hat nether.

I'm glad we don't have the same type of gun culture here in the UK because they are bad enough with knives never mind guns.

Anyone born here can still do a long stint. How about that?

Anyone out there murdering stabbing shooting or seriously assaulting people should indeed go away for a long sentence, quite possibly life depending on what they have done.

In Massachusetts, to buy a gun, you need to take a 4 hour gun safety class, character reference from 2 people , and a 1 on 1 interview with a police officer and they have the LOWEST GUN RATE DEATH in America...imagine that
a reply to: CryHavoc

a reply to: research100

Probably because the preferred means of suicide in Massachusetts is by suffocation.

www.mass.gov...

With the state already having one of the lowest suicide rates on top of that.

If you take out the BS suicide stats, wonder what it would be…..

originally posted by: research100
In Massachusetts, to buy a gun, you need to take a 4 hour gun safety class, character reference from 2 people , and a 1 on 1 interview with a police officer and they have the LOWEST GUN RATE DEATH in America...imagine that
a reply to: CryHavoc

Mass also has one of the highest percentage of white residents in the country.

Would you like to correlate gun violence to race? What could we do about that?

originally posted by: panoz77

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Brotherman
hopefully this is a wake up call to securing our borders better against violent invaders.

What in the flying F does this have to do with this shooting? His Hispanic name? He was a born American citizen with legally purchased weapons.

So he wasn't illegal, just a mentally ill Latino domestic terrorist? Got it, noted.

Was he talking to you?..or the guy who went on about immigrants..why so defensive?