How many NATO officers are now in Mariupol

a reply to: andy06shake


hearing from the Russians the flagship Moskva sank due to hull damage. from ammo explosions?!

hmm something def is sus with this one.

This is shown as a passport of an American mercenary in the Donbass or maybe as a representative of the special services.

topwar.ru...



The link has a video where this passport is shown.

a reply to: turretless

Chechen Special forces refer to him "as a representative of the US intelligence agency".

CIA perhaps

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: turretless

Chechen Special forces refer to him "as a representative of the US intelligence agency".

CIA perhaps

They can call him the Easter Bunny if they want, doesn't make anything russian forces say true.


Have you given up on the 3 star general story now?

How about the Isreali nukes given to nazis in Kherson?

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

Chechen Special forces refer to him "as a representative of the US intelligence agency".

CIA perhaps

You are right. In the video, he is called a representative of the special services.

But the article says that this is possible a representative of the special services.

a reply to: donteventrip

Ukraine sunk there battleship.

And that's what's called poetic justice of a sorts.

No way Russia will admit it all the same, probably stick to the ammo exploding being an ""accident"" story.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

Chechen Special forces refer to him "as a representative of the US intelligence agency".

CIA perhaps

You are right. In the video, he is called a representative of the special services.

But the article says that this is possible a representative of the special services.

He might be a representative of Ukrainian special services, but not any American service.

He doesn't work for your imaginary 3 star general.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

He might be a representative of Ukrainian special services, but not any American service.

You better know who is your colleague and who is not.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

He might be a representative of Ukrainian special services, but not any American service.

You better know who is your colleague and who is not.

Do you have any evidence that either of us work for the U.S. government in any way?

Then why do you keep making absurd baseless accusations?

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You have any evidence that he doesn´t

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

You have any evidence that he doesn´t

russian invasion supporters made the absurd claim, up to them to back it up.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

Do you have any evidence that either of us work for the U.S. government in any way?

I'm just thinking about a person who (3717/55 days=) posts 67,58181818181818 messages every day.

originally posted by: turretless

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

Do you have any evidence that either of us work for the U.S. government in any way?

I'm just thinking about a person who (3717/55 days=) posts 67,58181818181818 messages every day.

Wow, I guess I've been busy lately, sure would be nice if you guys would post less russian propaganda lies needing rebuttal from reality.

United Kingdom citizen.

Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry

17.04.2022 (09:00)

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A Ukrainian group encircled and completely blockaded in Mariupol on the territory of the Azovstal plant has been asked to voluntarily lay down arms and surrender in order to save their lives.

However, the Kiev nationalist regime, according to the radio intercept, forbade negotiations on surrender, ordering Azov Nazis to shoot on sight any willing to lay down arms among Ukrainian soldiers and foreign mercenaries.

In total, according to the Ukrainian servicemen who surrendered, up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now encircled on the territory of Azovstal plant as part of the Ukrainian grouping.

Most of them are citizens of European countries as well as Canada. We previously reported that radio conversations between militants in Mariupol were conducted in six foreign languages. In the case of further resistance, they will all be eliminated.

Since the start of the special military operation, the Kiev nationalist regime has brought 6,824 foreign mercenaries from 63 countries to Ukraine.

The largest group came from Poland - 1,717 people. About 1,500 mercenaries came from the US, Canada and also Romania. From the UK and Georgia, each up to 300 people.

193 people arrived from Turkish-controlled areas of the Syrian Arab Republic.

The majority of the mercenaries are now deployed in Ukrainian groups in Kiev, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev and Mariupol. Their deployment in the groups is handled by the "regional coordination headquarters" of the so-called "International Legion of Defence of Ukraine" in Belaya Tserkov city.

As a result of the hostilities, the number of mercenaries has steadily declined and currently stands at 4,877.

Russian armed forces have eliminated 1,035 foreign mercenaries in combat operations. Another 912 mercenaries refused to take part in the hostilities and escaped from the country.
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

First Dutch volunteer fighter killed in Ukraine

A Dutch volunteer fighter has been killed in Ukraine, according to De Telegraaf. It marks the first time a Dutch fighter was killed in the conflict, which escalated when Russia invaded its neighbor at the end of February. The man, 55-year-old Ron Vogelaar, was fighting with the Ukrainian Foreign Legion when he was hit by artillery fire near Kharkov last Wednesday.
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Over 200 residents of the Netherlands signed up with the Ukrainian embassy in The Hague to help defend Ukraine, including at least 70 Dutch people signed, according to reports published at the beginning of March. Many of the others were natives of Poland and Ukraine who had previously relocated to the Netherlands.
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nltimes.nl...

originally posted by: turretless
First Dutch volunteer fighter killed in Ukraine

A Dutch volunteer fighter has been killed in Ukraine, according to De Telegraaf. It marks the first time a Dutch fighter was killed in the conflict, which escalated when Russia invaded its neighbor at the end of February. The man, 55-year-old Ron Vogelaar, was fighting with the Ukrainian Foreign Legion when he was hit by artillery fire near Kharkov last Wednesday.
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Over 200 residents of the Netherlands signed up with the Ukrainian embassy in The Hague to help defend Ukraine, including at least 70 Dutch people signed, according to reports published at the beginning of March. Many of the others were natives of Poland and Ukraine who had previously relocated to the Netherlands.
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nltimes.nl...

Has russia discovered ANY soldiers from from NATO countries in Ukraine as has been repeatedly and falsely claimed?

Then why do russia and it's supporters continue to make such absurd claims.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Myth my arse look at the troop deployments in the beginning Zcustosmorum that tells you all that required.

He was after that place in spades including Kyiv.

And if Russia were not stupid, or at least severely misinformed, then why do they look like a paper tiger?

Guess its all part of the plan, same with losing all those troops and equipment?

Plain as day they were after more than just Donbass.

As to incompetent, that's exactly what they are and only 70 odd miles from home no less.

It was an MSM myth, not once did Putin or the Russian MOD say they were going to take Kiev, you actually believe the MSM tripe?

City warfare and indeed besieging a city in military terms is suicide, the Russians know that, hell anyone that's looked at military warfare knows that.

Get real man

Well, they had a damned good try at Kyiv, in case you didn't notice.

They only withdrew when they got their butts kicked.

And you tell others to "get real"?!!!!!!

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

What a load of garbage lol. Air ambulances my arse, they were obviously high value assets as was evident by the desperate attempts to evacuate and diplomatic efforts made by Macron. And as for civilians, the civilians were kept as human shields for obvious reasons and were always allowed to leave as far as the Russians guaranteed their safety. Face the reality that the soldiers holed up in Azovstal are Ukranian Nazis and deserve what they get.

Never mind the Stingers the Russians are doing very well shooting down Ukranian aircraft with their superior anti aircraft systems. And field reports suggest the Stingers are not very good anyway.

originally posted by: jnads
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

What a load of garbage lol. Air ambulances my arse, they were obviously high value assets as was evident by the desperate attempts to evacuate and diplomatic efforts made by Macron. And as for civilians, the civilians were kept as human shields for obvious reasons and were always allowed to leave as far as the Russians guaranteed their safety. Face the reality that the soldiers holed up in Azovstal are Ukranian Nazis and deserve what they get.

Never mind the Stingers the Russians are doing very well shooting down Ukranian aircraft with their superior anti aircraft systems. And field reports suggest the Stingers are not very good anyway.

Did russia find any of those imaginary VIPs in the wreckage then?

Of course not, they found previously wounded civilians and soldiers.



Why were the russians suddenly so successful shooting down these daily choppers as soon as they found some Stingers then?




russia 'claims' to be shooting down a lot of Ukrainian choppers in their ridiculous daily reports, but we know from drone footage of some of those battles, that no Ukrainian helicopters were even in the area.