Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

So far Germany has refused to send artillery to Ukraine in America's proxy war with Russia.

Russian citizens have turned from anti war to pro war because Russian state TV brainwashes them with demonization of Americans who supply arms to Ukraine to fight Russia in proxy war, and consequently crowd fund equipment for Russian invaders in Ukraine.

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originally posted by: generalbattle
So far Germany has refused to send artillery to Ukraine in America's proxy war with Russia.

Nice try, the U.S. isn't involved in russia's invasion of Ukraine.

America supplied Falcon III walkie talkie falls into the hands of the Russians in Ukraine

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nmd

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

America sending all of its tanks and artillery to Ukraine. That's pretty big involvement. By the end of next year or so it can be expected all of America's tanks and artillery would be blown up in Ukraine and there would be no tank and artillery left in America's inventory.

Xcathdra & PatriotGames4u

Thank you 2 for being real and presenting facts.

Because America sending tanks and artillery to Ukraine to kill Russians, Russian public became completely pro war. Many young women even joining army to treat wounded soldiers.

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During war sexual activity increases dramatically and birth rate increases dramatically. This produces more men for combat. This is a well documented phenomenon throughout human history and it is also expected to be true for the period of human prehistory.

a reply to: generalbattle

No. That's not happening.

You just made it up.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
A pro-Kremlin Russian social media site has admitted that Russian losses in Ukraine are over 13,000 dead and 7,000 missing.

To put that number into perspective-The Soviet Union lost 14 thousand troops in the Soviet/Afghan war-which lasted for 10 years.

Between 13/20 thousand in less than 2 months is catastrophic in terms of human loss.



Reports that Russia will be investigating rumors of SAS sabotage squads operating out of the Lviv area-

The top investigative body in Russia is looking at whether the SAS is "organising sabotage" in Ukraine.
The Investigative Committee - Moscow's main federal investigating authority - said it would be following up a report from Russia's RIA Novosti news agency.
RIA quoted a Russian security source as saying around 20 members of the SAS had been deployed in the western Lviv region, close to the border with Poland.

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Chances are high the SAS have been there since day 1 or before IMO
Maybe under the guise of training ukrainians to use UK weapons,maybe something more.

Be afraid Ivan.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Russia lost millions of men in WW2 and ended up winning. Russians are willing to sacrifice millions of men in Ukraine because proxy war with America.

During war sexual activity increases dramatically and birth rate increases dramatically. This produces more men for combat. This is a well documented phenomenon throughout human history and it is also expected to be true for the period of human prehistory.

If America is to unite the entire human race under a single hegemony, which has never happened before, then America must conquer China and Russia which are the largest two countries in the old world.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u
Nice try, the U.S. isn't involved in russia's invasion of Ukraine.

And from an account created a couple of days ago. It'll all be "America is the cause" blah, blah, blah.

originally posted by: generalbattle

America sending all of its tanks and artillery to Ukraine. That's pretty big involvement. By the end of next year or so it can be expected all of America's tanks and artillery would be blown up in Ukraine and there would be no tank and artillery left in America's inventory.

So the US is sending 6,000 tanks? Boy the Russians are in big trouble. Russia only has around 5,000 war ready tanks and they are getting taken out at a rapid pace with shoulder lunch rockets and very precise artillery that can hit a target 25km away within about 10 feet error with smart loads. All you need at that point is small simple drones targeting the tanks as we have been seeing. Also as we and other countries dump 1000s of anti tank rockets into it all that is just crazy numbers that Russia will not be able to keep up with.

I'm just not sure your point above as it is also very untrue anyways.

originally posted by: generalbattle
Russians now using submarines to shoot cruise missiles near Odessa because Harpoon anti ship missiles cannot shoot submarines.

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Not to mention Russia lost their ship air cover with the sinking of the Moskva. If a sub is caught on the surface they can be targeted. With the loss of the Orsk and now the Moskva the naval invasion of Odessa is on hold.

a reply to: Xcathdra

There are S-400 at Sevastopol which covers Odessa air space. If Ukraine tries to use anti sub helicopters they get shot down. Unless America gives Ukraine Tomahawk cruise missiles to take out S-400 in Sevastopol.

a reply to: generalbattle

God not this lie again. US tanks are no where in Ukraine and constantly repeating the bs info still doesnt make it true.

If the Russian military was as successful as claimed then Putin would not be continuing his purge of the military.

and the change in blaming points is now directed at China - check.

originally posted by: generalbattle
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Russia is fighting to gain land. This was not the case in Afghan war. Land is the ultimate wealth. You don't have wealth without land. Therefore, Russians are motivated in Ukraine because they fight for land.

The reason the USSR invaded Afghanistan was to allow the further partial invasion of Pakistan. The goal was to secure a warm water port that allowed quick access to the middle east.

originally posted by: generalbattle
Because America sending tanks and artillery to Ukraine to kill Russians, Russian public became completely pro war.

1. The US sending military equipment to support Ukraine is the right thing to do. Other countries have been doing it too, notably the UK.
2. Yes, Ukraine is using weapons supplied by other countries to kill Russians. That's a sad fact of war.
3. Russians should not be in Ukraine murdering, raping, destroying and pillaging. Russians will stop dying when there are no more in Ukraine. Simple.
4. The Russian public may have become more supportive of the war due to the propaganda. Wait until the size of the losses and the horror starts to get fed into the public by returning soldiers and their aggrieved families.

a reply to: generalbattle

Didnt seem to work when the russian black sea flag ship was sunk by Ukraine was attacked.


You just hang in there sparky... I mean a broken clock is at least 2 times a day.

originally posted by: Xcathdra


The reason the USSR invaded Afghanistan was to allow the further partial invasion of Pakistan. The goal was to secure a warm water port that allowed quick access to the middle east.

Not to mentioned Afghanistan has like 25 trillion in natural resources to plunder.