Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 2

Ukraine Served Footage Of It Destroying The Russian "MI-28 Helicopter

UK Delivers First Batch Of Long-Range Artillery To Ukraine

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Did Russia win yet? It appears the only goals they achieved so far was looking like a third rate military.

Do you actually enjoy the taste of the flavor koolaid?

'People Are Being Torn To Pieces': Inside The Liberated Kyiv Suburb Of Irpin

originally posted by: LastFirst
Do you actually enjoy the taste of the flavor koolaid?

You don't need to be drinking anything to see that Russia didn't take the capital and got smoked trying. Unless of course you have some sort of magic Russian TV that shows them in Kyiv. Do you?

a reply to: LastFirst

Apparently Kool-Aid comes in a variety of different flavours which include "Green Apple, Strawberry Kiwi, Peach Mango, Cherry Limeade, Tropical Punch, Lemonade, Pink Lemonade, Black Cherry, Sharkleberry Fin, and Invisible Grape".

As to the third rate military aspect, well Russia does indeed seem to have that base covered given the debacle of an invasion that is Vladimir's wet dream.

Good luck to him washing those sheets, he apt to have to snap them in half.

a reply to: andy06shake

Oh dear!! Don't drink the Koolaid!!!

WARNING: IT IS DISTURBING!

a reply to: alphabetaone

I always preferred "Creamola Foam".

To be honest with you i have seen people swallow worse than "Kool-Aid" and with glee no less.

Metaphorically speaking of course.

Best to take everything with a pinch of salt alphabetaone, well maybe not "Kool-Aid" all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

I KNOW this is off-topic im sorry, but i just couldnt help it.

Im pretty sure it's where the reference came from, the whole Jonestown scenario.

A thought on the oil depot attack. Russia blames Ukraine, Ukraine says it was not them.

We can go down the false flag route but part of me thinks it might be internal dissent in the Russian military. Especially since they started the drafting of 140k russian conscripts, the numbers of KIA/WIA/MIA and the possibility of Russian soldiers being forced to kill extended family members in Ukraine. To add salt to the wound Russia is redeploying troops in order to change the narrative. The introduction of the execution squads in Ukraine.

Given what the oil facilities in Belgordo are responsible for, supplying the russian forces with fuel etc...

I think Russia would rather blame Ukraine instead of acknowledging they are having internal dissent within the military.

just a thought..

a reply to: Xcathdra

No matter who done it.

Russia complaining about there oil depot being attacked.

Is like a bully calling foul when they get hit square on the nose.

Priceless really.

Hundreds of Russian troops are refusing to invade Ukraine, lawyer says, as a group of national guardsmen sue the government

* - A lawyer for Russian troops fired for refusing to go to Ukraine said nearly 1,000 others had contacted him.
"A lot of people don't want to go and fight," Mikhail Benyash told the Financial Times.
* - Multiple reports have outlined low morale among Russia's troops.
* - Putin announced a "special military action" against Ukraine in the early hours on February 24.
* - Less than 24 hours later, photos show Ukrainians fleeing as the war escalates.
* - Photos show traffic jams, couples embracing, and a mother trying to distract her child.

A lawyer representing a group of Russian national guardsmen refusing to join the invasion of Ukraine said that hundreds of other soldiers and guardsmen had been in touch with him looking for help to avoid the war.

Mikhail Benyash told the Financial Times that "a lot of people don't want to go and fight" and that around 1,000 people had been in touch with him since his case representing the guardsmen was made public.

He said he represents 12 national guardsmen who were fired for refusing to go to Ukraine.

They were members of Rosgvardia, which is a force separate to the military. They argued that this meant they shouldn't be sent to Ukraine, the FT reported.

The men thought that they would be doing something illegal if they went abroad as part of an armed group, Reuters reported. They also do not have passports, Reuters reported.

They filed a wrongful dismissal suit against the government, Reuters and the FT reported.

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originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: nugget1

Russia lost the first Chechen war against a much weaker opponent. So I don't think it's impossible. But definitely Ukraine has gotten a lot of help.

Russia isn't fighting a war with Ukraine; they're fighting the US by proxy, IMHO.

But it's both, isn't it?

Right! I should have said "The US is fighting a proxy war with Russia at the expense of Ukraine". I personally feel that way because of Biden's hostility and continual verbal assaults that - to me- looked like deliberate attempts at escalation before Ukraine was even invaded....by Russia, that is. There's every indication the US was well established in all sectors of Ukraine, and well known Russia wasn't going to allow much more 'pushing' before shoving back.

Volodymyr Zelensky Fires Two Top Generals—Ukraine 'Traitors'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has decided to fire two of his top officials and has dubbed them "traitors."

In an address on Friday morning, the President announced that he had fired the chief of Main Department of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), Naumov Andriy Olehovych.

He also removed the head of the SBU in Kherson, Kryvoruchko Serhiy Oleksandrovych.

Zelensky posted this address on his Facebook page and also reflected on the low expectations people had for Ukraine's ability to stand up to Russia.

We endured much more than the enemy expected. They said - three or five days. They thought that this would be enough for them to seize our entire state....

The Ukrainian president accused the two officials of failing to do their duty and protect Ukraine.

He also warned that they "will all be punished," but said he did not currently have time to deal with them.

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* - Explosions heard in Kryvyi Rih

* - Zaporizhia, Zaporizka Oblast(00:16). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now! (11 mins ago)

* - Kirovohradska Oblast, Cherkaska Oblast(00:13). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!(11 mins ago)

* - Fire to the west of Kherson

* - Poltavska Oblast(00:10). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - Loud explosions heard in Dnipro city

* - Kryvyi Rih(00:07). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

* - New military column filmed in Belgorod region of Russia

* - Saltivka, Kharkiv: Russian army shelling hit big supermarket, where point of distribution of humanitarian aid located. Caught fire

* - Joint Forces Operation: 78 pieces of military equipment of Russian army destroyed today at Donbas

* - AFP: Buses carrying civilians from Mariupol have arrived in Zaporizhzhia

* - Images from Shestovitsa near Chernihiv

* - Explosions reported in Kharkiv

* - Possible future Ukraine attacks on Russian soil - "I'm not going to get into a future hypothetical" per @PressSec, noting Ukraine has not confirmed the attack on the oil depot

* - Head of Odesa regional administration: Russian army launched 3 Iskander ballistic missile at settlement in Odesa district, there are casualties

* - "#Russia's invasion isn't just a mortal threat to #Ukraine. It's a challenge to the rules-based international system" per @SecDef "We've rushed them security assistance. We've rallied our @NATO allies. & we've reinforced @NATO's Eastern Flank with more combat power

* - 17:40 A column of 30 pieces of Russian military equipment was seen near Rechitsa, moving along the M10 highway towards Gomel. The equipment includes KamAZ and Ural trucks

* - 6 destroyed Russian BMDs in Gostomel airport, Kyiv region

* - Secretary of National Security and Defense Council Danilov on explosions in Belgorod: "It was not us. People of Belgorod People Republic starts to realize something. It could be anywhere in RF. We did not start this war"

* - Ukrainian forces captured 1 Russian TOS rocket launcher

* - Latvia's defense minister calls on Europe to stop importing oil and gas from Russia saying it's the only way to stop "Hitler-like" behavior from Putin. Artis Pabriks warns against any ceasefire agreement calling it a "Russian trap" in interview on Fox Business

* - Video: Ukrainian military in Peremoha village, Kyiv region

* - Bucha Mayor Anatoly Fedoruk has officially confirmed that the city has been liberated from the Russian army

* - Prisoners swap in Zaporizhiye region: 86 Ukrainian servicemen released from captivity

* - Governor of Belgorod region: as result of explosions near Nikolske, Yasni Zori villages power line damaged

* - Photos from liberated Kozarovychi

* - President Erdogan, speaking to Putin by phone, said that the positive and constructive meeting of the Russian-Ukrainian delegations in Istanbul raised hopes for peace

* - Germany has approved delivery of 56 combat vehicles to Ukraine, a German Defense Ministry spokeswoman told CNN. The vehicles are from the Cold War-era East German army and had been sold to Sweden, then resold to the Czech Republic who will deliver them to Ukraine

* - As the result of an air strike on Kharkiv Oblast Administration on March 1, 29 people died, according to the Head of the Administration, Oleh Syniehubov. Last week 24 victims were reported

* - Mi-28 helicopter crashed at Pervomaisk, occupied part of Luhansk region. Pilot alive

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

* - Reuters: The European Union has agreed to supply equipment and medicines to deal with any chemical or nuclear accidents in Ukraine

* - Russian troops targeted evacuation bus near Lysychansk. No casualties. About 1300 civilians to be evacuated today from Lysychansk

* - Missile hit road near Nikolske village in Belgorod region this morning

* - Ukrainian flag raised over Vorzel, Kyiv region

* - Kozarovychi (evacuated by Russian forces alongside nearby Demydiv) - back under Ukrainian control

* - Reports of Russian Mi-28 shotdown in eastern Ukraine

* - IAEA chief Rafael Grossi: We discussed with Russia and Ukraine securing nuclear facilities during the war

* - Ukrainian military entered Bucha, cleansing operation ongoing

* - Ukrainian forces liberated Borodyanka in Kyiv region

* - Poland's president @andrzejduda in Vatican asked about the possibility of „the honorable exit for Putin": there is no honor for peopole without honor

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

Flightradar24

* - SUM9108 - Antonov An-148-100EM / Russian ministry of Emergency management - Belgorod

* - In Bucha many civilians shot dead by retreating Russian army, bodies lying everywhere on the streets. Some with tied arms

* - Over a dozen missile strikes with some possible interceptions in Dnipro city. Very loud explosions shaking all districts

* - Injuries caused by strong explosions and fires in the Saltovka region, northeast of the city of Kharkiv

* - Explosions heard in Kryvyi Rih

As a reminder -

Just so people know and understand. Information from war zones can become confusing as there will no doubt be info released from the players (on both sides) involved that might not necessarily be true.

As such take everything as a possibility and NOT as absolute truth.

The very first casualty in a war is the truth and all warfare is based on deception

a reply to: Xcathdra

Well it has to e one of two things either it was the Ukrainians who attacked apparently not informing Ukraine's commanders. Or it was indeed some Russian pilots figuring this was an opportunity to end the war. Since I can see huge benefits to a unit in Ukraine reporting they did this the denial tends to make me think it was Russian pilots. That would also explain how they could fly into Russian territory so easily. If they were seen as friendly units because I assure you I wouldn't want to e a Ukrainian pilot crossing Russia's border.

a reply to: putnam6


Nonsense, we LOVE all the russian military secrets russia has given us over the past month, and are happy that most NATO countries will finally meet their spending obligations after decades of cheating and putting that burden on the U.S., but the Ukraine related spending is peanuts on the scale of U.S. defense spending, and really isn't anything to get excited about, the increased energy costs more than eat up any 'gains' there anyway.