UKRAINE/RUSSIA WAR - looks like it’s started

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Because they are civilians, many with children?

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

enslaving their neighbors.

Isn't that what US/NATO had being doing for the past decades in Eastern Europe? how many bases does US have?

Those countries WANTED to join us.

We did NOT attack them.

And the weapons we put there after they joined us pose ZERO threat to russian forces inside russian borders.

ZERO.

Though I suspect that this is about to change.

MANY other countries also want to join us, and until now we have refused, because those countries couldn't yet meet our minimum standards.

This is the case with Ukraine.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Because they are civilians, many with children?

So were Syrians, Iraqis, Kurds, Afghanis, etc but they got accused of #ebaggery for gtfo.

originally posted by: Kratos77
Coming to this late so I apologize if this has been covered. I am curious what everyone's thought is about Chernobyl. What is Russia's interest in it at this point? I think there is still fissile material there but supposedly inaccessible. But it is a wasteland. What else is there that was forgotten about? Russia already has nuclear capability.

They probably want to lock down Chernobyl to make sure nothing happens to it. Nobody, but nobody wants to deal with that again.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Kratos77
Coming to this late so I apologize if this has been covered. I am curious what everyone's thought is about Chernobyl. What is Russia's interest in it at this point? I think there is still fissile material there but supposedly inaccessible. But it is a wasteland. What else is there that was forgotten about? Russia already has nuclear capability.

They probably want to lock down Chernobyl to make sure nothing happens to it. Nobody, but nobody wants to deal with that again.

using it as a bargaining chip at this point.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Interesting take. Propaganda opportunity could be another reason:

Maybe the idea is to "find" some evidence to give this narrative some mileage?

Russian TV Series Blames CIA for Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster

A pro-Kremlin Russian TV network is planning to air a mini-series about Chernobyl, one suggesting a CIA saboteur was behind the 1986 Soviet-era nuclear disaster in Ukraine, which left up to a million people exposed to radiation.

Marketing literature for the NTV series details a plot revolving around a CIA agent infiltrated into Pripyat and tasked with gathering intelligence on the Chernobyl nuclear power plant.
The hero of the drama is a Russian counterintelligence agent dispatched to track him down.

“One theory holds that Americans had infiltrated the Chernobyl nuclear power plant and many historians do not deny that, on the day of the explosion, an agent of the enemy’s intelligence services was present at the station.”

a reply to: Soloprotocol


Because we did NOT arm Ukraine as putin (and idiots here) have repeatedly claimed.

And Ukrainian citizens don't want to be russian slaves again.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Like what sort of a "nudge"?

That would be WW3.

And maybe those in charge, really in charge, don't fear the prospect of WW3 as much as you or I.

After all,


Why do you think they designed nuclear weapons with "adjustable yeilds" - so-called "dial-a-nukes"?

When "all out war" is rationalized as not necessarily "total", when you can point to a possibility of survival and inflate it, in your mind, as a near certainty of success,

Anything is possible.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Your leaders ignored and mocked those warnings Every. Single. Time.

Because leaders are bought and paid for by others who are spreading some crazy weird agendas across Europe. The Prime Minster of Canada mentioned to the pm of Kosovo last year that Kosovo should focus on gender quality.

Why are these politicians obsessed with such agendas?

I can't answer that question.

But I do know the solution.

Solution is incoming, and unstoppable, but will take a little time.

More time than any of us would like.

THIS is one of the many consequences of what the democrat party and it's international supporters have intentionally done.

And it isn't nearly the last of those consequences that we will face as a result of our 81 million idiots and their partners running the EU clown show.

(Resisting the urge to post Reddington's 'I told you so' again)

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Especially Ukrainians, what with it being in Ukraine. I'm sure they were grateful to Russia for that cooking off.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

And Ukrainian citizens don't want to be russian slaves again.

And i am sure they would have no issues being slaves with the EU and all the weird agendas being pushed on every EU member states.

don't want to be russian slaves again

You dont understand the Ukrainian history very well.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Pretty sure they ain't keen on WW3.

No one is.

81 Millions thought that Trump would bring closer to a war with Russia/China. Trump admin was the one trying to avoid it.
81 Million voted for Biden and now here we are. Democrats were always itchy for a war/conflict. They arent much different when it comes to foreign policy.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No one is.

Those who had being pushing for a conflict were.

Russia wanted security ensures from NATO. NATO wouldn't response.
NATO wanted all Russians gone out of Ukraine.

a reply to: vNex92

So did Ukraine!

That's why they got rid of their Russian puppet of a President a while back.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No one is.

Those who had being pushing for a conflict were.

Russia wanted security ensures from NATO. NATO wouldn't response.
NATO wanted all Russians gone out of Ukraine.

Russia wanted UKRAINE.

Period.

There are no 'security guarantees' that could have prevented this.

Because Ukraine NEVER posed any kind of security risk to russia in the first place.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Don't move your goalposts, you asked why they weren't staying to fight.

I told you because they were civilians, many with children.

Whataboutisms do you no credit.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

So did Ukraine!
You mean with their takes by taking all of territories back? including crimea?

That's why they got rid of their Russian puppet of a President

You mean Yanukovych , Party of Regions? good to know you admit it was a Regime Change and which US brought in victoria nuland to give rioters Cookies, breads for doing such a great service in the regime change in Kiev.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Russia wanted UKRAINE.

Eastern independent parts

There are no 'security guarantees' that could have prevented this.

There were.

cuz they be civil Ians

a reply to: Soloprotocol