Russia Ukraine Update Thread

a reply to: Xcathdra

Thanks! You're on it!

Edit: I have seen the stories coming out of Snake Island... tragedy

a reply to: majesticgent

I heard about Turkey being asked to close the straights to Russian military. There are currently 3 NATO carrier groups operating in the med that have been in contact (they both know they are there). A US aircraft carrier, a French aircraft carrier and an Italian aircraft carrier and they were being shadowed by Russian guided missile cruisers.

UPDATED: Russian Navy Cruisers Positioned to Counter U.S., French and Italian Carrier Groups in the Mediterranean

Three Russian guided-missile cruisers have been arrayed across the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea to counter three NATO carrier strike groups, causing concern in the Pentagon, a U.S. defense official told USNI News on Tuesday.

As of Monday, the three Slava-class cruisers were operating in and around the Aegean Sea – RTS Moskva (121) in the Black Sea, RTS Marshal Ustinov (055) south of Italy and RFS Varyag (011) off the coast of Syria, near Russia’s naval base in Tartus.

Moskva is based in the Black Sea, while Marshal Ustinov traveled from the Northern Fleet and Varyag from the Pacific Fleet. Ustinov and Varyag entered the Mediterranean from opposite ends earlier this month.

The three 11,500-ton Slavas were designed around launchers that can hold 16 SS-N-12 Sandbox anti-ship cruise missiles – each about the size of a telephone pole. Developed in the 1970s, the Slavas and the Sandboxes were designed to take on U.S. and NATO aircraft carriers by overwhelming them with a barrage of high-speed cruise missiles to sink ships.

The position of the cruisers around the Aegean is a complication for the U.S., Italian and French carrier strike groups that have been operating in the Mediterranean the last several weeks.

If Russia were to place its fleet at Crimea and Turkey shuts down access to the Russian military it would put Russia in quite a pickle of a situation.

* - @POTUS makes @DHSgov lead agency for coordinating "preparedness & response efforts related to the current Russia-Ukraine crisis" "While there are no specific threats to the homeland at this time, DHS is taking appropriate steps.should the need arise" per statement

* - Aftermath of some of the strikes seen in latest satellite images from 24 Feb. Shows damage to fuel storage areas and other airport infrastructure at the Chuhuiv airfield, eastern Ukraine. Image: @Maxar

* - Secretary Blinken tells ABC tonight that he's "convinced" President Putin is going to try to overthrow the Ukrainian government

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: Soloprotocol

I think that was Japan. Before WWII in Europe Hitler had gotten rid of all those sanctions from the WWI Treaty of Versaille or just illegally ignored them. On the other hand sanctions on Japan were certainly a big thing in WWII.

Hitler rose to power on the back of those sanctions.

Hitler 'coming to power' did NOT cause ww2.

Nor did the strong punishment for what germans did in ww1.

Appeasing an international tyrant did.



And in case you haven't noticed, hitler 2.0 is ALREADY in power.

It nice to have an opinion, really. Even if it’s one dimensional.

But this is false general view of it. And everyone knows it.

It was not just simply “appeasing an international tyrant”.

“Before the 1918 signing in the Forest of Compiègne, the wagon served as the personal carriage of Ferdinand Foch and was later displayed in French museums. However, after the successful invasion of France, Adolf Hitler had the wagon moved back to the exact site of the 1918 signing for the 1940 signing due to its symbolic role. The wagon was later destroyed near the end of World War II, most likely by the SS.”

How do you think he got the support to be a Tyrant?

Appeasement yes, but Hitler got the machine going based on points like the one above.

And an overwhelming portion of German population cheered it on at the time too. Look at the historical footage of Hitler at his speeches in Munich, Berlin etc.

Putin isn’t Hitler. Just like many democrats were screaming calling Trump and Republicans Hitler and Nazis. Where are the concentration camps from Putin and Trump?

And please don’t say ohh it would lead to that. Because major portion of U.S citizens and half of the country aren’t Nazi’s.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I am not saying banning russia from using swift would instantly stop the invasion-but it would certainly have more effect than the sanctions so far implemented IMO.

Not really Tim Pool mentioned in his video Russians were preparing for this.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Russia doesn't trust NATO words. I highly doubt that report.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Russian navy can strike from Caspian. Kalibr has enough range.

I wonder if Chinese army will roll to Russian border to prevent possible NATO invasion into Russia?

a reply to: YongpengSuen

They already had send out 9 aircraft near Taiwan today. If NATO pushes further to Russia's border you make a good point they will also see this as a thread on their borders.

This is not a good move that NATO did either.

a reply to: YongpengSuen

wtf are you talking about?

Again, for those that do not understand. NATO is a defensive alliance.

The US and Russia share a border.

a reply to: Xcathdra

NATO is a defensive alliance.

After what NATO did in Libya, i wouldn't call it a defensive alliance.

"defensive alliances" dont start doing regime changes in middle east under a pretext.

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
a reply to: Xcathdra

Russian navy can strike from Caspian. Kalibr has enough range.

Really has nothing to do with my response.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: YongpengSuen

They already had send out 9 aircraft near Taiwan today. If NATO pushes further to Russia's border you make a good point they will also see this as a thread on their borders.

This is not a good move that NATO did either.

Complete nonsense.

Stop lying.

Russia's actions have NOTHING to do with ANYONE threatening russia.

Putin wanted to steal and enslave a peaceful neighbor that had ZERO ability to threaten russian forces inside russian borders.

Period.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Turkey shuts down access to the Russian military

If Turkey does that, their economy would take a massive nose dive. It was Russia that saved Turkey's economy the last time around.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

Turkey shuts down access to the Russian military

If Turkey does that, their economy would take a massive nose dive. It was Russia that saved Turkey's economy the last time around.

It wouldn't affect Turkeys economy since the action would only apply to Russian Naval units. In casee you haven't noticed the Russian economy is nose diving along with the Ruble.

* - Zelenskyy stated that sabotage groups have identified him as the number 1 target. In his address, the President noted that his family is identified as the number 2 target. However, they still remain in Ukraine

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Xcathdra

Turkey shuts down access to the Russian military

If Turkey does that, their economy would take a massive nose dive. It was Russia that saved Turkey's economy the last time around.

It wouldn't affect Turkeys economy since the action would only apply to Russian Naval units. In casee you haven't noticed the Russian economy is nose diving along with the Ruble.

Correction.

'Starting to nose dive'.

russia just committed national suicide.

Bread lines 2.0 are incoming.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Time for the Russian people to unite and get rid of the kleptocratic dictator that has stolen their money and stamped on their freedoms and democracy with utter contempt for them.

Probably the ONLY way russia survives what they just did.

But not very likely to happen.

Russia has full support of China. If need be, thousands and thousands of HJ-12 anti tank missiles will flood into Russia.

originally posted by: YongpengSuen
Russia has full support of China. If need be, thousands and thousands of HJ-12 anti tank missiles will flood into Russia.

Ukraine doesn't really have tanks for them to destroy.

Has russia requested thousands of paperweights?


I would STRONGLY advise ccp to start distancing themselves from russia, You don't want any part of what's about to happen as a result of what putin just did.

Though personally, I would LOVE for ccp to get directly involved so we can kill two birds at once.

Then we can stop playing nice.