Evidence of an Ancient Advanced civilization that spanned the Globe

Thank you, interesting.

a reply to: Byrd

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Madviking


How did they move the Trilithon ones, and get them up into place? Honest question.

No one knows but we can speculate that they did what other ancient cultures did they dragged then on sledges by manpower from quarry up a ramp and pulled them into position.

They may have used winches but there is no evidence they had them at that time.

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Is there an issue with ramps being able to hold that kind of weight, or no?

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Surely there is some way to "hack" the method. Like a winch line whith snatch blocks. I pulled an 18 wheeler with a very heavy load with my dodge 5500 tow truck without having to anchor my truck to anything by simply triple lining the winch cable (2 snatch blocks).

A double line pulled my truck back, and if I'd have anchored it would have snapped the line. Since I value my face in one piece I decided to try the extra snatch block. It made the difference.

There must be a similar concept for the relevant type of leverage.

Obviously, this is a guess from someone who knows nothing about it.

originally posted by: Madviking

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Madviking


How did they move the Trilithon ones, and get them up into place? Honest question.

No one knows but we can speculate that they did what other ancient cultures did they dragged then on sledges by manpower from quarry up a ramp and pulled them into position.

They may have used winches but there is no evidence they had them at that time.

gilgamesh42.wordpress.com...

i0.wp.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.academia.edu... tween_the_Temples_at_Heliopolis_Baalbek_and_

Is there an issue with ramps being able to hold that kind of weight, or no?

Not if it's built right. Only a few really heavy stones were ever moved by man before we developed power machinery.

Here is a list:

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Why? Again it was very, very difficult. Just seven stones over 400 tons were ever moved (one isn't mentioned on that list one of the Egyptian obelisks moved to Rome was an estimated 455 tons).

If 'someone' at the time of the Romans who built Baalbek atop an earlier structure had some 'advanced' technology why did they only use it to move 3 stones then throw away this ability?

I agree with this. The ancients especially in Egypt cut stones with razor thin accuracy. Stone age tools? Impossible. They used gravity negating technology as well as co.puters to do this stuff. There was definitely previous technology present. Why are the statues also perfectly symmetrical? And we think we are modern because we have 3d printing machines...

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Madviking

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Madviking


How did they move the Trilithon ones, and get them up into place? Honest question.

No one knows but we can speculate that they did what other ancient cultures did they dragged then on sledges by manpower from quarry up a ramp and pulled them into position.

They may have used winches but there is no evidence they had them at that time.

gilgamesh42.wordpress.com...

i0.wp.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.academia.edu... tween_the_Temples_at_Heliopolis_Baalbek_and_

Is there an issue with ramps being able to hold that kind of weight, or no?

Not if it's built right. Only a few really heavy stones were ever moved by man before we developed power machinery.

Here is a list:

en.wikipedia.org...

Why? Again it was very, very difficult. Just seven stones over 400 tons were ever moved (one isn't mentioned on that list one of the Egyptian obelisks moved to Rome was an estimated 455 tons).

If 'someone' at the time of the Romans who built Baalbek atop an earlier structure had some 'advanced' technology why did they only use it to move 3 stones then throw away this ability?

originally posted by: mcsnacks77
a reply to: Byrd

Well, either ancient civilizations were interconnected and came into contact with each other in the past(which archaeologists say was impossible) , or a long-lost mother culture predates all of the ancient civilizations on Earth, and it is from this mother culture that ancient civilization such as the Aztecs and Egyptians inherited their knowledge from. Something was responsible for the striking similarity of ancient art, architecture, symbolism, mythology, religion and scientific knowledge between ancient civilizations such as the Ancient Egyptian, Ancient Aztecs and Maya among others.

The "similarity" is the Theosophists and other 18th and 19th century Europeans drawing conclusions about the cultures.

Egyptian civilization was from about 3000 BC to 30 BC (or thereabouts). The Maya civilization wasn't actually a civilization but a collection of city-states from about 2000 BC to the Spanish conquest and the Aztecs were a group of several peoples driven out of their original homeland who settled in and around Tenotchlitan about 1230 AD and created an empire from there.

The Maya and Aztec art is "sort of" similar, mostly because the Aztecs copied and improved on the art already in the area (from the Olmecs and the Toltecs...also the source of the Maya.) Their religion was similar because the groups were intermingled by conquest (Aztecs forming a huge empire and making everyone conform to their religion.)

Scientific knowledge? If you're talking about pyramids, they don't resemble each other beyond having a square-ish base and an upward slope.

Similar symbols? No. Not even close.

Similar religion? In the areas where conquerors forced their religion on others, yes. Between Egypt and Maya and Aztec, no.

We can look at specific examples if you like, but frankly the idea that they were all similar is something pushed out by fans of global catastrophism ... fans who really didn't know much about the cultures.

originally posted by: Tumblew33d
I agree with this. The ancients especially in Egypt cut stones with razor thin accuracy. Stone age tools? Impossible. They used gravity negating technology as well as co.puters to do this stuff. There was definitely previous technology present. Why are the statues also perfectly symmetrical? And we think we are modern because we have 3d printing machines...

"Razor thin accuracy"? Could you possibly show us one of these examples?

And why are they symmetrical? Because the master craftsman would mark up the things to be carved with gridlines and they carved from that. Here's an art teacher doing a lesson on this very very ancient method -- we know the Egyptians did this because there's still places in tombs and elsewhere where the workers quit working and left the drafting lines in place.

Here's a picture of how the Egyptians did it and how the styles varied slightly depending on the king's preference

Here is a real example from an unfinished tomb in the Valley of the Kings

So. Not nearly as mysterious as some would have you believe.

By the way, the king's workshop actually sent around instructions and models about "how to do the art properly." We have quite a few of these "example carvings" in museums around the world.

a reply to: Hanslune

the stones at ollantaytambo weren't mentioned on that link...



even though they're no where near 400 tons... they managed to get them from a mountain top where they were quarried, down and across a valley and a river, and back up another mountain...


Must have been one hell of a ramp

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Hanslune

the stones at ollantaytambo weren't mentioned on that link...

even though they're no where near 400 tons... they managed to get them from a mountain top where they were quarried, down and across a valley and a river, and back up another mountain...


Must have been one hell of a ramp

The roads the Inca built specifically for this purpose - from quarry to site - are well known and have been studied by Academia.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

perhaps you could post a picture of these roads that lead from that mountain to the site where the rocks landed... or any other info that might help this issue along?

a reply to: Byrd

Generally in these discussions people fling all sorts of things at the topic. I'd like to talk about just one type of technology that you think is "out of place" for two very different civilizations... look at best evidence and discuss that.

actually i will take you up on that...

pretty much everything in this video applies.... can't seem to get the code right so heres the link...

www.youtube.com...

Laser precision cut into the cliff sides... no evidence in most cases of pounding or chisels... perfectly square cuts...

This is another problem....



Posted in my other thread... Aswan quarry... scoop marks... can't be done by pounding with a rock... as you've stated you've been there... the demonstration makes a lot of dust... you would pound away for years, which apparently has been happening with the demonstration rocks... you still won't get scoop marks like that....

Heres a better video...
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Byrd

Generally in these discussions people fling all sorts of things at the topic. I'd like to talk about just one type of technology that you think is "out of place" for two very different civilizations... look at best evidence and discuss that.

actually i will take you up on that...
pretty much everything in this video applies.... can't seem to get the code right so heres the link...

www.youtube.com...

See

Laser precision cut into the cliff sides... no evidence in most cases of pounding or chisels... perfectly square cuts...

Which ones? Where, exactly?

This is another problem....

Posted in my other thread... Aswan quarry... scoop marks... can't be done by pounding with a rock... as you've stated you've been there... the demonstration makes a lot of dust... you would pound away for years, which apparently has been happening with the demonstration rocks... you still won't get scoop marks like that....

Heres a better video...
www.youtube.com...

Here's a better video:

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Byrd

that first video isn't available in my area i guess... and the second one has methods explained... nothing to prove thats how things were done... especially when it comes to said "scoop marks" which were shown in my videos..

Which ones? Where, exactly?

heres one example... and theres much better but i can never seem to find them again... but i will

a reply to: Byrd

Heres another...



You're telling me these were made by chisels and or pounding with a rock?

theres more when i find them

a reply to: Byrd

And this... shows a clear separation between the stone work of the people that lived in the area at the side... and well... lasers lol

a reply to: Byrd

What about the elongated skulls of both the Egyptian and Mayan “elite”?
The corbel arch was used in both Mayan and Egyptian architecture?
The Egyptians and Maya both created art and architecture depicting human beings transforming into, or having transformed into, felines. For the Egyptians, the feline was the lion; for the Maya, the feline was the jaguar. Both also used the “twin jaguar” symbol or “twin lion”
The Maya and Egyptians used the same Third Eye forehead dot symbolism, the Tau cross, step pyramids, and Triptych Temples.

a reply to: One_Love_One_GOD

Mistranslated it as “Babel” but it should be translated as "Babylon". Yes, Babel and Babylon are one and the same place; Babylon is the place of confusion.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Byrd

And this... shows a clear separation between the stone work of the people that lived in the area at the side... and well... lasers lol

Could you spend a few sentences on what you think is "laser cut" here? And how you know it's lasers instead of iron chisels (and then please identify where this is and what culture we're looking at?) It's not a photo I know, and for all I can tell it's someone's garden wall in South London.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Byrd

Heres another...

You're telling me these were made by chisels and or pounding with a rock?

theres more when i find them

So where is this and who did it? Inquiring minds want to know.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: Byrd

Heres another...

You're telling me these were made by chisels and or pounding with a rock?

theres more when i find them

So where is this and who did it? Inquiring minds want to know.

this is found at Sacsayhuaman...

www.youtube.com...