My son is injected and manifesting "vaccine adverse events'

a reply to: tanstaafl

"I honestly don't even want all of the branch covidians that have outright said in no uncertain terms that the unjabbed should all die, and they'd be happy about it and dance on their graves to die."

Can you kindly post an example where anyone, anyone at all, has ever said they "outright" or in "no uncertain terms" said anything of the sort?

Or did you just make that up?

a reply to: tanstaafl

I think some people would love to see others start dropping like flies if im honest just to satisfy there craving for fear and terror in the night.

And I'm betting the same daft gits will all still be here bumping there gums about something similar or doom porn related mince 5 years down the line.

Offering up sad pathetic excuses as to why there doom porn prophecy has not quite materialised in the manner of there choosing.

It's 2012 nonsense all over again.

Time will tell i imagine tanstaafl.

So aye it will be "nice".

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: tanstaafl

I think some people would love to see others start dropping like flies if im honest just to satisfy there craving for fear and terror in the night.

And I'm betting the same daft gits will all still be here bumping there gums about something similar or doom porn related mince 5 years down the line.

Offering up sad pathetic excuses as to why there doom porn prophecy has not quite materialised in the manner of there choosing.

It's 2012 nonsense all over again.

Time will tell i imagine tanstaafl.

So aye it will be "nice".

They already are dropping. Nice try.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Ridiculous.

They are not.

Ain't happening here.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Well seen one of the prime candidates chimes up.

"Alexa set a reminder for 5 years please"

So v1rtu0s0 can get his big bad antivax axe sharpened and ready to grind once again.

That is if you have not worn it down to the nib by then.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: tanstaafl

Can you kindly post an example where anyone, anyone at all, has ever said they "outright" or in "no uncertain terms" said anything of the sort?

No thanks. Plenty of evidence for you toi find for yourself, but since I know you would dismiss anything presented, I won't waste my time.

Or did you just make that up?

I'm not you...

a reply to: tanstaafl

That's just lame.

You can't back up your lies and try to turn it on me.

I simply asked you to post where anyone has ever posted that.

If you can, I won't dismiss it.

Simple as that.

So, I'm calling you out.

Put up and man up. Or.....?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: tanstaafl

That's just lame.

In context, and considering who I am responding to, no, it isn't lame, it is sensible.

You can't back up your lies and try to turn it on me.

You did that to yourself.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Put up or shut up.

Bored now.

Man up or just bog off.

I am not Tanstaafl. That said, although not direct George Takei did say the willfully unvaxed should not receive priority healthcare. If you need that priority health care to live, then non directly he says they should die.

www.nydailynews.com... ml

a reply to: XL5

He didn't say that they should die, he said that if they don't take responsibility for their own health then they should take a backseat to those who do.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
Does he say that about smokers or over eaters as well?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well if you are waiting on the likes of a lung transplant for instance patients are only enrolled on the waiting list after having quit smoking for at least 6 months.

If you are morbidly obese doctors are ether unable or unwilling to commit to most major operations down to the fact that the anaesthesia risk is to great.

a reply to: andy06shake

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well if you are waiting on the likes of a lung transplant for instance patients are only enrolled on the waiting list after having quit smoking for at least 6 months.

What if a smoker needs an operation that is not a lung transplant?

If you are morbidly obese doctors are ether unable or unwilling to commit to most major operations down to the fact that the anaesthesia risk is to great.

What if an overweight person is going to die without surgery?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

With smokers i think medical trained professionals do a risk assessment before proceeding any further where operations are concerned.

As to an overweight person the reasoning being they would not make it through surgery in the first place.

Take my sister in law for instance, she's about 25 stone and has problems with her gallbladder and a pancreatic cyst that they refuse to operate on because of her weight.

At least that's how it is here in bonny Scotland.

a reply to: andy06shake
Is your sister going to die without surgery?

Here is an interesting article that I just found:
Overweight patients less likely to die in hospital after heart operations | Obesity | The Guardian
www.theguardian.com...

A large number of NHS groups are believed to have placed restrictions on access to surgery for overweight people, although, in most cases this applies to elective procedures for non-life-threatening conditions such as hip and knee replacements.

The article is from 2017 so things may have changed by now.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

News to me Itisnowagain, but you live and learn.

There is a difference between being simply overweight and morbidly obese all the same.

Risk assessments are taken into consideration where any operation in concerned, hence the reason they wont perform operations on extremely fat people unless its to save there life.

They are not simply going to let people die because they are overweight, that would be draconian in the extreme.

My little brother had a heart transplant down to his heart failing in his 30s.

Its a really complex and time consuming operation and the recipicant needs to be fit and healthy(stable) enough to come through the procedure, else they would simply have wasted a heathy heart.

"Is your sister going to die without surgery?"

No hence the reason they refuse to operate, its not worth the risk given her present condition and weight.

She been told however if she loses weight they will perform the procedures required.

a reply to: andy06shake

There is a difference between being simply overweight and morbidly obese all the same

This study shows the very morbidly obese – with a BMI greater than 40 – did not have a greater risk.

From the article I linked.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Here is another article which references your own that may help shine some light on the matter.

www.bhf.org.uk...

This one is pertaining to heart transplant surgeries.

www.nhsinform.scot...

Believe it or not finding the right size organ for the recipient can be problematic in itself as a heart that is too small may not support the patient and a heart that is too big may not fit in the patient’s chest.

All sorts of different factors and consideration are taken into account where heart(and lung)transplants are concerned.

a reply to: andy06shake
"George Takei did say the willfully unvaxed should not receive priority healthcare. If you need that priority health care to live, then non directly he says they should die."

And the reply by AaarghZombies was:
"he said that if they don't take responsibility for their own health then they should take a backseat to those who do."

Do you have anything to say about the above?