My son is injected and manifesting "vaccine adverse events'

a reply to: Dfairlite

The stats show less death and hospitalisation from omicron because thats what the vaccines help prevent.

And i suppose that may depend on location also never mind the publics ability to access vaccinations and booster shots.

And that does not mean that any excess deaths can be attributed to the vaccines nether, again lack of proper health care for the better part of 2 years and sedimentary existence are going to play there part.

a reply to: andy06shake

But then we are back to athletes and the military. They had healthcare and are not sedentary.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Please tell me you don't mean the likes of all that 108 dead FIFA players nonsense along the lines of this thread?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Coz that gibberish turned out to be up the same avenue as the vaccine killed poor old Betty White nonsense.

a reply to: andy06shake

Nope, refer to 2-3 pages ago.

a reply to: Dfairlite

Seems to be more hyperbole and fearmongering regarding the vaccines affecting your athletes.

www.nytimes.com...
www.washingtonpost.com...
www.reuters.com...
www.factcheck.org...

a reply to: andy06shake

It's not. No matter how many times the establishment wants to pretend it's normal, it isn't. Also, that is only a small part of the equation. the DMED stats show it.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Dfairlite

The stats show less death and hospitalisation from omicron because thats what the vaccines help prevent.

And i suppose that may depend on location also never mind the publics ability to access vaccinations and booster shots.

And that does not mean that any excess deaths can be attributed to the vaccines nether, again lack of proper health care for the better part of 2 years and sedimentary existence are going to play there part.

No, there are less deaths and hospitalizations from Omicron because it is a less virulent strain of the virus, not because the shot is "working", lol. If the shot is "working" then you wouldn't have the extreme numbers of infections among the shot takers. But you stick with what makes you feel better that you are an injected lab rat.

a reply to: Dfairlite

I don't think much could be considered "normal" these days.

And the thing is, there is no normal to go back to, because the world was not normal even before pandemic, or whatever the hell constituted normal anyway.

Dfairlite tell me this what happens when 5 years down the line, when all these 100s millions of people are not dead or dying down to vaccines like the doom porn suggests?

You lot are going to have to get some new material.

Anyroad I'm away out for dinner this evening have a nice night whatever you choose to believe.

a reply to: panoz77

Omicron is less potent but more transmissible.

You certainly don't have the extreme numbers of hospitalisation or death, because the majority of the population is vaccinated.

Well that's how things stand here in the UK.

Each to there own panoz77, you wanna swallow the doom porn, and that's your thing, be my guest.

Like i said im away out this evening, have fun, that's my plan.

a reply to: andy06shake

I have never once claimed there would be mass deaths from the vaccines. I don't think there will be. So you guys can quit with trying to put those words in my mouth.

Normalization is a statistical term and things that are not normal get inspected. That's the 'normal' I am referring to. In this case we are being told it could be anything... except the vaccine, it can't be that. But anything else is on the table.

a reply to: Dfairlite

"I have never once claimed there would be mass deaths from the vaccines."

That's good.

Sorry to have pegged you wrong.

Coz the numbers just are not there.

Anyway must brush up, might even have to fight with the iron. LoL

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Dfairlite

Seems to be more hyperbole and fearmongering regarding the vaccines affecting your athletes.

www.nytimes.com...
www.washingtonpost.com...
www.reuters.com...
www.factcheck.org...

Yes "fact checkers," those things paid by big pharma to "fact check"

"fact checkers"

“Jim Smith, who sits on Pfizer’s board, is also former president and current chairman of the Thomson Reuters Foundation, and CEO and director of Reuters parent company, Thomson Reuters Corporation — a $1.53 billion publicly traded “provider of financial information … to businesses, governments and individuals worldwide.”

a reply to: v1rtu0s0



Show us all on the doll where "big pharma" touched you?

Tell you what v1rtu0s0 you try picturing a world without pharmaceutical companies.

Where the likes of no antibiotics, immunosuppressants, blood thinners, or medical procedures and operations is the colour of the day.

Coz that really would be hell on Earth for all of us or at least the majority.

Pharmaceutical companies are a necessary evil, and that's just how our world spins in the information age in which we exist.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: BigfootNZ
Determination of the Effectiveness of Oral Chlorine Dioxide in the Treatment of COVID 19 - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov
clinicaltrials.gov...

So you link a page indicating a clinical trial that was started 2 years ago, that hasnt had its status updated since a month after it was put up, and its still in the recruiting phase according to that... with no current results available. Just because its on a .gov site doesnt mean its validated in anyway, especially since it appears you didnt even read or notice the dates, status, and lack of results on the very page you linked.

I also found this webpage dealing with the Clinical Trial you linked, as they both pages mention one Eduardo Insignares-Carrione as the project leader (and the dates line up fairly well as early 2020).

Th ere is no scientific study showing that chlorine dioxide is effective for the treatment of covid-19

and I quote...

Several organisms such as the FDA or the WHO (through the Pan American Health Organisation) have already insisted on many occasions that when this compound is ingested, in reality, it is like you were drinking “bleach”, as it is one of the “active ingredients of certain disinfectants” and “are not made to be ingested by the people”. Moreover, they strongly remark that “the ingestion or inhalation of these products could cause serious adverse effects”.

The authors of the alleged study certify their scientific trajectory. The one saying to be the leader of the project, according to what the document indicates, is a person called Eduardo Insignares-Carrione, member of the center LVWG, Liechtensteiner Verein für Wissenschaft und Gesundheit, in Liechtenstein. It is an organisation whose specialisation, according to its own website, is "holistic natural medicine"

Everything I can find about Eduardo Insignares Carrione, Genesis Foundation and this trial/study comes back as complete quackery.

So you were saying?.. or do I have to simply state it again, that you were telling people to ingest 'bleach'.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: incoserv

Most of the adverse events reported

How many are reported? We know for a fact that, prior to Covid, adverse events were routinely under-reported by a factor of at least ten, but more likely 50 or 100.

But where covid is concerned, these are being under-reported by a factor of at least 100, but more likely 500 to 1000.

a reply to: tanstaafl

But where covid is concerned, these are being under-reported by a factor of at least 100, but more likely 500 to 1000.

How do we know that?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: tanstaafl

"But where covid is concerned, these are being under-reported by a factor of at least 100, but more likely 500 to 1000."

How do we know that?

Apparently you haven't been paying attention.

Hundreds of doctors and nurses have gone on the record stating that they are actively being prevented from filing reports in VAERS.

And no, I can't prove it in a court of law, but only a disingenuous ahole would claim they are lying.

a reply to: tanstaafl

I haven't seen that. is there an aggregate of them somewhere?

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: tanstaafl

I haven't seen that. is there an aggregate of them somewhere?

An aggregate? That would satisfy branch covidians? I'm not aware of any.

Their reports are everywhere though, for those willing to look. Rumble would be a good place to search, since youtube deletes them and bans anyone posting them.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Dfairlite

Dfairlite tell me this what happens when 5 years down the line, when all these 100s millions of people are not dead or dying down to vaccines like the doom porn suggests?

Nice how your question is phrased such that it implies that anyone here actually wants the jabbed to die.

I think I can speak for almost everywhen when I say, I'd be very happy if none died. My brother got the jab because he felt like he had to A&P management at Delta Airlines). You think I want him to die?

I honestly don't even want all of the branch covidians that have outright said in no uncertain terms that the unjabbed should all die, and they'd be happy about it and dance on their graves to die. Now, if they were to die from the jabs later, I still wouldn't be happy about it dance on their graves, but I'd likely have a hearty 'be careful what you wish for' laugh at the irony of it.