Active Shooter Oxford Michigan High School

It will be interesting to see how they use voluntary manslaughter.

Is there such precedent?

originally posted by: matafuchs
Uproar? For the last year and a half schools have made kids wear mask for no reason to protect them from a virus they have a 99.99% survivlal rate from but searching for guns in wrong?

Nice whataboutism. Let me know when you can discuss the evidence.

originally posted by: JinMI
It will be interesting to see how they use voluntary manslaughter.

It's involuntary in the charges.

originally posted by: matafuchs
There is no charge that can be brought against the parent.

Looks like you're wrong, they each got four.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
They are saying they had a duty to keep the gun away from someone they knew was an obvious mental case who just the moment before he shot up his school was demonstrated to have indicated homicidal ideation.

Going to be a bitch to prove. Especially since the school found no need for disciplinary action. I'll stick with bullsh*t.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: matafuchs
There is no charge that can be brought against the parent.

Looks like you're wrong, they each got four.

H e means that will stick.

originally posted by: yuppa
Another over charge that will result in protest when they are not found guilty of anything but negligence.

That's now up to the jury.

I can't wait for the ATS Whine Brigade to talk about how those people have been corrupted.

You wanna put some money on these parents going to jail? I say they get convicted of all four charges each.

originally posted by: yuppa
H e means that will stick.

See above.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JinMI
It will be interesting to see how they use voluntary manslaughter.

It's involuntary in the charges.

Involuntary still has elements of action associated with it.

C below may be argued and applicable.

That the defendant either:

intended to kill the victim

intended to do great bodily harm to the victim,

created a situation where the risk of great bodily harm or death was very high, knowing that as a result of the defendant's actions he or she knew that serious harm or death would likely result.

I am curious if the statute has been applied before.

originally posted by: JIMC5499
Going to be a bitch to prove. Especially since the school found no need for disciplinary action.

Did you see the evidence? They are ****ed nine ways to Sunday. The schools failings have no impact on their own to avert the situation. It's not like junior kept his nutzo behavior secret, they knew about it right before he shot up the school.

His mom even texted him while it was going on to say 'don't do it'.

Soap on a rope for all three of them will be on the holiday list.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JinMI
It will be interesting to see how they use voluntary manslaughter.

It's involuntary in the charges.

Involuntary still has elements of action associated with it.

C below may be argued and applicable.

That the defendant either:

intended to kill the victim

intended to do great bodily harm to the victim,

created a situation where the risk of great bodily harm or death was very high, knowing that as a result of the defendant's actions he or she knew that serious harm or death would likely result.

I am curious if the statute has been applied before.

a reply to: JinMI

The last one is what they are being held to, they knew and they knew that day their kid was a grade 10 wackadoodle.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: generik

Sounds like best solution is to expel kids who are being bullied from the schools. It's a simple yet possibly effective solution and sends the meassage, be normal, or else!

so your solution is to victimize and punish victim for the actions of others? why don't we also put rape victims in prison?

how about expelling the students involved in bullying, no matter how many students in a school or class may be involved? that would send a clear message to not bully, thus not creating the fertile ground to cause these types of things. even criminal charges against bullies would help a great deal.

Although the school told the parents he needed mental health assistance immediately, I have a feeling we will see the district sued. But, even if they sent him home for a day or week, we may have still gotten the same result. The way the mom laughed about the ammo thing makes me believe she would have resisted mental health for the boy and somehow blamed "communist" teachers and went all "my gun rights" as an excuse instead of realizing the boy was in trouble emotionally.

a reply to: generik
The problem is, in this case the police state the shooters own journal, phone and social media make no mention of being bullied.

When I posted this previously I hadn't seen the information on the meeting with the school and the texts from the parents, so I deleted the contents.

I still think the involuntary manslaughter charges are BS because of the timing. Apparently he already had the weapon in his backpack at school when the meeting happened. How were the parents supposed to have known that. I can possibly see criminal negligence and that's about it.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

From all information thus far, application of that statute may apply.

Based on him having the gun that he believed was his because it was bought for him.

Thats two felonies by itself at the very least.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: generik

Sounds like best solution is to expel kids who are being bullied from the schools. It's a simple yet possibly effective solution and sends the meassage, be normal, or else!

You win!!!

Dumbest post of the week!

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Discuss evidence? You said you did not even know the law...LOL

a reply to: JIMC5499

If they have a lawyer who is worth a crap that is how it will go prolly.