The Ancient Egyptian Stones Were Perfectly Precise How is this Possible? Many Qs Little Answers

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Harte

I cannot help but wonder if you've ever looked at Orion's Belt yourself. As it's in the sky at this time of the year, and we've had clear skies, I've gazed at it just about every evening lately.

Of course. I've seen the Belt Nebula with my own eyes as well.

originally posted by: SalanderSurprise Mr. Harte: the alignment you show in your diagram is just about EXACTLY the alignment of the 3 stars of the belt seen in the sky. Two line up perfectly, and the third just barely misses a perfect alignment.

The joke is on you Mr. Scientist.

Surprise Mr. Salander, it's not.
The lie you swallowed whole is in the pic you swear by. A photo that had to be TURNED UPSIDE DOWN to even approximate the alignment.

YOU are the joke, Mr. Gullible.

Harte

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: Byrd

You do realize he is in Egypt right? you are basically accusing him of stealing copyright material.

His being in Egypt has nothing to do with it. Millions of people are there and they get hundreds of thousands of tourists every year.

Anyone that has a different point of view on the topic of Egypt or pyramids is your definition of a click bait? despite that that person and video i had shared has being in Egypt before?

I've been to Egypt (as folks here know.) I took video inside the Great Pyramid. So have thousands of other people, including professional film crews. A google search shows several thousand results for film taken within the Great Pyramid (in part or in full.)

Click bait is when someone takes an ordinary experience that people have on a daily basis and have presented in more than a thousand examples and promotes it as RARE FOOTAGE (which your video did).

It seems you haven't seen his video of him taking photos with other people in Egypt have you? is he in Egypt. I know you dont like that channel its because its talking about things like precursor civilizations.

I did the same thing. And I even speak a little Arabic. Visited the museum there, too, along with a lot of temples and other sites and went inside other pyramids.

I know quite a few other people (including Egyptologists who have dug in Egypt) who have done the same thing.

A British friend of mine lived there for 20 decades before her recent death.

So, no, I'm not terribly impressed. He's done what millions upon millions of other people have done. You seem to think he's the only one, which is interesting.

You still believe the mainstream versions of archaeology.

I listened to what he had to say. It's clear that he doesn't know much about archaeology, materials, ancient construction, the history of Egypt, or much of anything else.

That's kind of like saying "Don't listen to your car mechanic. Here's a guy who's going to tell you what's wrong with your hybrid SUV. He's only seen six cars in his life, but he knows that cars are made by evil corporations and he knows about exorcising engines." I'd trust the car mechanic. I trust the reports going back 300 years of the people who have dug there and examined things in depth and can read inscriptions and have good access to what people have been saying and writing about them since before the time of Herodotus.

You're free to take your car to an exorcist, but don't blame us for not believing that our engine making a weird rattle is due to mechanical problems and not space ghosts.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: Byrd
Ok

[but it was done by humans and is easy to do today

Lets try to do what the Ancient Egyptians did and lets build the same structure using the same methods as they did? dont try to bring in the Las Vegas pyramid into the discussion.

If you think Humans achieved this with using primitive as Obama said so. Lets recreate the same one using their method in today's society.
Its 2022 almost a decade no one or any organization had tried to recreate using the same methods as the Ancient Egyptians did.

If humans built this with such primitive tools just simple ones as modern archaeologists say it is as you are. Lets re create it.

The only reason that we aren't doing this is money. Nobody has put up the cash necessary to pay enough people to actually do it. We've had 10 grad students not used to lifting anything heavier than a book bag failing to move a block over a weekend, and called it a day.

Give me 10,000 skilled stone masons, a couple of top flight architects, a team of 100 surveyors, and a building schedule that's 20 years long, and I will give you a pyramid. I'll take, maybe 10% of the GDP of a medium sized country, you can cut a check for that, right?

How about starting with your 'plan' to build the pyramid, which needs no money at all?

There's many, many theories on how the pyramids were built, do you think hiring a couple of 'top flight architects', are going to make a better plan, which actually would work?

Let's say you had an unlimited budget to recreate the Great Pyramid, using tools of the day. You hire the best architects, best stone masons, surveyors, and so on. None of which know how the pyramids were built, none of which have ever TRIED to build such a structure before. Maybe they study plans and theories already put forth, and find one that might work. Or maybe they think none of them would work, which is most likely the case. Why? Because every plan or theory so far, would fail, for various reasons.

Why do you think nobody has ever tried to build the pyramids? It 's NOT because they don't have enough money, that's for sure. There's plenty of billionaires out there, with money to burn, just like Richard Branson and Elon Musk. Money is the last excuse when claims cannot be proven true.

Here's the problem, and it isn't lack of money - there's no actual, feasible PLAN to build the pyramids, using tools of the day, and that's the REAL reason why NOBODY has ever tried to do it - knowing it WOULD fail, before they even START the project!

'Oh, we could certainly build the Great Pyramid, if we had enough money', is complete BS. Again, it takes no money to draw plans for it, and you need plans before you START to build it. There's no plans, which would work, because it wasn't build by humans using tools of the day, and you can't make plans that would work, with a human crew and tools of the day, it's never, ever going to work. That's the big mystery of it, because they assume it had to be build by humans, with tools of they day, and never consider other options, like giants building them, instead of humans. That's also why it helps 'alien theories' to thrive, unfortunately, but that's another issue entirely.

If the pyramid could be built today, there would certainly be plans for it - actual, usable plans, which describe the methods involved, what techniques are in play, where they're used, total manpower required, etc.

Simply look at all the various theories on how it was built - see any that you think would work, among them? If so, point it out to me. If you don't think any of them would work, as none would work, then you have nothing at all, but a worthless claim about being able to build it today.

Anyway, point out which plan you think would work, or tell me if you don't think there's a valid plan, as yet, anyway - and then we can move on...yes?

Architects and structural engineers always have plans, detailing the entire project, what materials to use, of course.

But the world's greatest structure, the Great Pyramid, has nothing but a bunch of sketches and diagrams, with pulleys, levers, ramps, ropes, or chains, which all vary in how they are used, where they are used, the degree of slant on their ramps, etc. ?!?!

If that doesn't tell you we've got NO IDEA how to build the pyramids, nothing will.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Except that we know that these things were done by humans because they got it wrong several times. For example the Pyramid built by Sneferu. The architect made several mistakes which needed to be corrected, as seen by the fact that the slope of the walls is wrong.

Mistakes rule out 'aliens', which are mythical creatures people believe are real, like sea monsters were once believed to be real, long ago, but that's another issue, as I said earlier.

Humans cannot have built them, so the mistakes were done by those who DID build them - not aliens, and not humans, which are both ruled out, for the reasons mentioned above.

Everything fits with being built by the Nephelim, the ancient race of giants who once dominated the Earth, before humans came into existence - which again fits with why there's no knowledge of who built them, or how they were built, or when they were built. All those who built them, no longer existed on the Earth, wiped out of existence, by the great flood, and in fact, were the very REASON for the flood - but that's another issue

And these giants would certainly make mistakes, like humans do, when first building the pyramids.

We don't know who built them, cannot build them today, it's impossible for humans to build using such tools, or even modern day tools, much more precise, and powerful tools compared to what they had, at the time. So with far more primitive, less powerful tools, than we have today, with electric and hydraulic power, they were able to cut stones with them, and with precision, and accuracy, as well.

Again, it's been a great mystery about how it could be done, by HUMANS, using primitive tools of the day.

All those great mysteries, of the pyramids, are seen in human terms, in human strength.

These giants, known as the Nephelim, are described in detail, in a book from the Bible, before it was ripped out, along with other books in the Bible. At least they still exist, though we must find them elsewhere, than where they belong, in the Bible.

They describe those giants as being up to 12-14 feet tall, for the males, and 7-10 feet tall females, on average.

Ancient texts around the world also describe this race of giants, who once ruled the Earth, before humans existed.

It's impossible for us to ever know how strong or powerful the giants were, but they'd be massive, and extremely strong, with massive hands, 4 times larger than human hands, to grasp, pull, and lift those massive blocks, maybe with 2 or 4 giants holding each block of the pyramid, as we hold stones of hundreds of pounds, with 2 or 4 humans. Or as a 10 lb. stone held by 2 or 4 small children, would be.


To a 5 year old child, adults are giants, with incredible strength, too. Humans don't understand how they built the pyramids, because we assume that HUMANS built them, while it was really the giants who ruled the Earth, and built the pyramids, and other monoliths, around the Earth.


A giant with a 20 ton block, might be like an adult human with a 400 lb. block, or a 5 year old child with a 20 lb. block.

Even a human giant, 7 feet tall or so, usually has immense strength and power, compared to humans, just one foot smaller in height than the giant is. That doesn't even account for massive giants, like Andre the Giant, either.

I once mentioned that Hulk Hogan, who is 6 ft 8 or so, and weighs nearly 300 lbs, said Andre once picked him up and put him on a shelf, with ease. Like a girl putting a little doll on a shelf!


These giants must have built the pyramids, since humans couldn't, beyond a doubt. This also explains why nobody knows who built them, or knows HOW to build them, because the giants built them, and they didn't exist after the great flood.

originally posted by: turbonium1

... giants must have built the pyramids, since humans couldn't, beyond a doubt. This also explains why nobody knows who built them, or knows HOW to build them, because the giants built them, and they didn't exist after the great flood.

No, there is no evidence that "giants" [very tall beings] built the pyramids.

We know who built the pyramids: the people inhabiting Egypt at that time. They had developed very well organised systems of labour and supply of materials.

In fact, they've even left us documentary evidence of how, just before Khufu's death, limestone (which formed the casing) was transported by boat from the quarries to the site of the Great Pyramid.

This article examines how the association of the Great Pyramid with the Flood came about.

originally posted by: Hooke

originally posted by: turbonium1

... giants must have built the pyramids, since humans couldn't, beyond a doubt. This also explains why nobody knows who built them, or knows HOW to build them, because the giants built them, and they didn't exist after the great flood.

No, there is no evidence that "giants" [very tall beings] built the pyramids.

We know who built the pyramids: the people inhabiting Egypt at that time. They had developed very well organised systems of labour and supply of materials.

In fact, they've even left us documentary evidence of how, just before Khufu's death, limestone (which formed the casing) was transported by boat from the quarries to the site of the Great Pyramid.

This article examines how the association of the Great Pyramid with the Flood came about.

The fact is, nobody can even DRAW OUT an actual method to build the pyramids, which could work in reality. We can build skyscrapers, tunnels, bridges, canals, and many more things, yet we cannot figure out how to build the pyramids, so why would that be? Because it was NOT built by humans, that's why. There's nothing built by humans, we cannot do today. If the pyramids were built by humans, then we COULD build them today, but we cannot, for humans never built them, the Nephelim did.

a reply to: turbonium1

Everything fits with being built by the Nephelim, the ancient race of giants who once dominated the Earth, before humans came into existence - which again fits with why there's no knowledge of who built them, or how they were built, or when they were built. All those who built them, no longer existed on the Earth, wiped out of existence, by the great flood, and in fact, were the very REASON for the flood - but that's another issue

The flaw in your idea is that the pyramids where the mistakes were made date back to named individuals whose historical validity can be easily confirmed through documentation written at the time, like Snefuru, who was very much a human being and lived around 2600BC. He build one of the first pyramids, but his arcitects made several mistake which had to be corrected. Even them the pyramid was based on a traditional burial moundtomb structure that was well known in the area at the time.

Only a handful of monuments in Egypt appear to pe-date first dynasty Egypt, and those (such as the sphinx) A) Aren't pyramids, and B) still fall well within human history.

Everything fits with being built by the Nephelim, the ancient race of giants who once dominated the Earth, before humans came into existence

Question 1) Why would giants built structures with doors and corridors that were too small for them to enter?
Question 2) What about the tombs of the architects who built the pyramids, which clearly house humans?
Question 3) What about the villages that housed the people who built the pyramids, which were clearly inhabited by humans?

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Hooke

originally posted by: turbonium1

... giants must have built the pyramids, since humans couldn't, beyond a doubt. This also explains why nobody knows who built them, or knows HOW to build them, because the giants built them, and they didn't exist after the great flood.

No, there is no evidence that "giants" [very tall beings] built the pyramids.

We know who built the pyramids: the people inhabiting Egypt at that time. They had developed very well organised systems of labour and supply of materials.

In fact, they've even left us documentary evidence of how, just before Khufu's death, limestone (which formed the casing) was transported by boat from the quarries to the site of the Great Pyramid.

This article examines how the association of the Great Pyramid with the Flood came about.

The fact is, nobody can even DRAW OUT an actual method to build the pyramids, which could work in reality. We can build skyscrapers, tunnels, bridges, canals, and many more things, yet we cannot figure out how to build the pyramids, so why would that be? Because it was NOT built by humans, that's why. There's nothing built by humans, we cannot do today. If the pyramids were built by humans, then we COULD build them today, but we cannot, for humans never built them, the Nephelim did.

There are actually dozens of drawings detailing how to build pyramids. The disagreement is over which one of them is most historically accurate, not whether they can be done at all.

For example, whether or not ramps were used: Link

a reply to: Hooke

I'm often amazed by how few people know this kind of stuff.

It's like they all watched a episode of Ancient Aliens were somebody said "nobody knows ..." and never bothered to Google to see if somebody does know.

This is something that pretty much any tourist can go see for themselves these days.

My grandmother knew all of this decades ago when she was in Egypt after the war.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Hooke

I'm often amazed by how few people know this kind of stuff.

It's like they all watched a episode of Ancient Aliens were somebody said "nobody knows ..." and never bothered to Google to see if somebody does know.

...

Well ... for someone with a very general interest in the Great Pyramid, the GP Wiki, which lists out a fair few sources, wouldn't be a bad place to start.

The problem is that people don't always understand that how much work has gone into the study of the ancient world, whether Egypt, Asia Minor, Sumer or anywhere else. Many people, for example, would much prefer to watch The Mummy than read Carol Andrews' Egyptian Mummies.

a reply to: Hooke

The fact that there are people on this very board who didn't know that the pyramids weren't built by armies of Hebrew slaves is rather depressing.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Hooke

The fact that there are people on this very board who didn't know that the pyramids weren't built by armies of Hebrew slaves is rather depressing.

What's depressing is that (possibly) YOU don't know that your claims about Hebrew slaves is utterly wrong.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

This is basic history.

The Hebrew were enslaved between the 18th and 20th dynasties. This was during the New Kingdom period when the fashion was to use rock tombs. The last of the pyramids was made around the 14th dynasty, centuries before there were any Hebrew slaves around to do any of the building.

If you read Exodus, the main task assigned to the Hebrew wasn't stone cutting. It was brick making. Which ties in with other contemporary sources because sun baked bricks were a primary building material in that region at that time.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Harte

This is basic history.

Sorry, read your post wrong.
Too used to seeing the Hebrew slave claim, I guess.

Harte

Give me a measuring device,a spirit level and a long piece of string and a stick...

originally posted by: Blackfinger
Give me a measuring device,a spirit level and a long piece of string and a stick...

Spirits make me anything but level.

Harte

a reply to: turbonium1

No , not the Nephelim . An Ancient more Advanced Human Civilization that Preceeded the Egyptians did . The Evidence for that Theory is gaining Exceptence in parts of the Archeological Community Today . For Example.........

a reply to: Harte

Do you mean to say you are unable to see the similarities between two stars on one axis and the third just slightly off axis? Top to bottom or bottom to top confuses you.

Sorry Harte. There are many that cannot see the similarities, and you are apparently one of them.

I am not.

Do you mean to say that three points that are not collines don;t make

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Harte

Do you mean to say you are unable to see the similarities between two stars on one axis and the third just slightly off axis? Top to bottom or bottom to top confuses you.

Sorry Harte. There are many that cannot see the similarities, and you are apparently one of them.

I am not.

Any three noncollinear points make the same shape. Any three points.

So... "Wow! The three large Pyramids at Giza are three noncollinear points!"

Anyway, I already showed you the actual alignment.
Talk about "cannot see." More like "refuses to see."

Harte

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: turbonium1

No , not the Nephelim . An Ancient more Advanced Human Civilization that Preceeded the Egyptians did

That couldn't cut, fit, and polish stone any better than the ancient Egyptians?

Odd claim.

. The Evidence for that Theory is gaining Exceptence in parts of the Archeological Community Today . For Example.........

No, it's not gaining acceptance in any part of the archaeological community.