The Fight for Election Integrity Continues -- Audits, Criminal Investigations, Legislative Reform

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Hence why it took so long to count the ballots. It takes time to manufacture all those ballots with all the right votes!

The evidence from Maricopa county's 2020 and 2022 elections suggest that multifaceted cheating wasn't enough to flip elections by election day, and that further cheating and time was required. With regards to the 2020 Maricopa election, there is evidence that suggest that counterfeit ballots may have been added just before the results were released, indicating possible last minute cheating. That evidence has been documented in the pages of this thread and the links it contains.

Not only did the adjudication rate increase between 2020 and 2022, but if I'm not mistaken, the amount of time it took for the results to be released also increased.

With all the election issues, problems, and abuses found in and around the 2020 Maricopa county election, I'm in no way surprised that the Maricopa county Recorder for the 2020 election has now become the Secretary of State, and the Secretary of State has become the Governor.

a reply to: IndieA

The evidence from Maricopa county's 2020 and 2022 elections suggest that multifaceted cheating wasn't enough to flip elections by election day, and that further cheating and time was required.

I've been trying to nail this down in my head. I think you're right that it's multi-faceted, but not in some of the ways we were led to believe. I don't believe there's any software flipping votes or anything like that.

What I do believe is that for two elections in a row now, those actually executing the election have created a need for adjudicating ballots in high Republican precincts. In 2020, they did it with the Sharpies that bled through the ballots, rendering the ballots unreadable, and off to adjudication. In 2022, they did it with mismatched printers and ballots, again rendering the ballots unreadable/unprintable, and then sending those ballots off to adjudication.

Once they have "adjudicated" all the Republican votes into Democrat votes -- which would take at least a few days -- they still need more. That's when Runbeck employees -- who have complete access to voter rolls and records -- willow out everyone who did not vote in the election, print and fill out ballots for them, which are then sent to the county to be counted. This is why there can be no chain-of-custody between the precincts and Runbeck, because it would be impossible to add those votes if accurate ballot numbers were being established and tracked.

What this tells me is that the Democrats would have lost by so many votes that even voting "for" the no-shows would not have been enough for a Democrat win. Hence the need to convert Republican votes to Democrat votes.

With regards to the 2020 Maricopa election, there is evidence that suggest that counterfeit ballots may have been added just before the results were released, indicating possible last minute cheating. That evidence has been documented in the pages of this thread and the links it contains. Not only did the adjudication rate increase between 2020 and 2022, but if I'm not mistaken, the amount of time it took for the results to be released also increased.

Yes, the number of days counting did increase between 2020 and 2022.

And yes, I think the extra 25,000 ballots were created and printed by Runbeck after knowing just how many votes were needed for the win... and to keep Katie above the 5% margin to prevent a recount.

originally posted by: Boadicea

....and to keep Katie above the 5% margin to prevent a recount.

You know.... In the end I think it really does boil down to "intent."

I might as well link this thread since it's significant.

In sum, if we are to believe the official narrative:

Katie Hobbs has the support of 51.2% of Arizonians. Half-filled in ovals and stray marks caused 214,371 ballots to need to be adjudicated. Katie won not 51.2% of those, but 62.4%. The odds of that kind of luck are 1 in 4 trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion.

Video from Twitter

Just FYI I'm checking for any update on the ruling by the appeals court...

I hate waiting!!!

I'm still checking... still waiting... still wondering what the hell is taking them so long!

In the meantime, Abe Hamedeh has filed a response in his motion for a recount in the AG race, based in large part on Katie Hobbs and others withholding pertinent information from the court:

For Abe Hamadeh, his continued effort to challenge the outcome of the Arizona Attorney General’s race is about due process and ensuring every legal vote was properly counted. On the other side is now-Gov. Katie Hobbs and new Attorney General Kris Mayes, who along with new Secretary of State Adrian Fontes want a Mohave County judge to shut the courthouse door on Hamadeh and end all inquiries into which AG candidate actually received the most votes.

According to Hamadeh, Hobbs -the then-Secretary of State- knew of problems in Pinal County with ballots being incorrectly tabulated as an undervote. But Hobbs, her staff, and her attorneys kept that information secret from Jantzen during a Dec. 23 trial as part of Hamadeh’s election challenge.

Mayes, Fontes Oppose New Trial As Hamadeh Focuses On Evidence Hobbs Kept From Judge

Hamadeh’s race was decided by 280 votes after a “significant miscount” of hundreds of votes was discovered in rural Pinal County’s recount results.

Exactly one day after Contestee Kris Mayes was sworn in as Arizona Attorney General,1 and two business days after Plaintiffs first received notice that Pinal County confirmed errors caused valid votes in the attorney general race to be misread as no votes (known as undervotes), Plaintiffs filed this Motion for a New Trial. Critically, then-Secretary Hobbs (a Defendant in this matter) knew about the misreads at the time of the trial, but chose not to disclose the widespread issues until after the pronouncement of the recount results. Yet despite Plaintiffs extreme diligence in quickly bringing this Motion for a New Trial, Defendants essentially argue “too little, too late.”

BREAKING: Abe Hamadeh Files Reply in Motion for New Trial In Arizona Attorney General Election Lawsuit – FILING INCLUDED

Given that the case was dismissed by the judge for lack of evidence, this new evidence, and the fact that the plaintiff knowingly and deliberately withheld this information from the court, a win for Hamedeh should be a no-brainer.

But we all know how that goes!

a reply to: Boadicea

Thankyou so much for the continuing updates!

Since the appeals court has taken so long to render a judgment, and given Kari Lake so much time and opportunity to make her case to the court of public opinion, I've gotta say I think Kari's doing a damn good job. She's hammering home the specific misconduct and illegalities that took place, as testified to and proven in a court of law. From the non-working machines on Election Day in Republican-dense precincts, to the complete lack of chain-of-custody for Election Day drop-off ballots, to the mismatched signatures, etc. She's providing pics when and where possible -- the Maricopa County "Heat Map" that matches the map of high density Republican areas and the examples of mismatched signatures.

I was very frustrated after 2020, even after the audit, that officials did not cite specific examples of misconduct and illegalities clearly and succinctly and drill it home to the public. Too many generalizations and vague accusations, but not enough hard facts and examples for the public to take in and process.

SharpieGate for example was dismissed as nothing. It was something. It was a HUGH something. SharpieGate is to 2020 what the malfunctioning machines were to 2022. A manufactured crisis requiring spoiled ballots for "adjudication". The manufactured crisis is crucial to the overall plan. But no one important made that clear.

I sure hope the appeals court rules soon. I'm shocked they haven't already. Then again, I'm sure they want to have all their ducks in a row before they rule. Especially if they rule in Kari's favor.

a reply to: Boadicea

I sure hope the appeals court rules soon. I'm shocked they haven't already. Then again, I'm sure they want to have all their ducks in a row before they rule. Especially if they rule in Kari's favor.

I'm guessing that they are pulling their hair out trying to find an acceptable excuse to rule against Lake.

a reply to: IndieA

Well, yeah, if history is our teacher... but I really don't want to believe that, so I'm not going to until I have to!

I want to believe that these are serious and honorable members of the court making a thoughtful and just decision in a matter of great importance....

We'll find out together whenever they decide to rule.

No ruling yet... but I saw this from Kari and Piers Morgan--

TONIGHT: She's the rising star of the Republican Party and one of the most controversial figures in US politics - Kari Lake will be speaking with Piers Morgan on TalkTV at 8pm.

I don't know what to expect from Piers -- he surprises me sometimes! -- but it should be interesting 🙃

I'm thinking the 8 pm is UK time... so it should start here in a couple hours? Maybe three? I think AZ is 7 hours behind UK right now... so 3:00 mountain time (I think!).

a reply to: Boadicea

Piers Morgan huh? Piers Morgan, formally from CNN and definitely not part of the mocking bird media, Piers Morgan?

I would find someone else to interview me if I was her, but I'm not, so hopefully she has thought this through and proceeds with caution.

It sounds like the judges could be in a bind, so I hope this isn't some kind of set-up to get her to "shoot herself in the foot", so to speak.

Here it is:

a reply to: IndieA

Kari was part of mainstream media for 20+ years, most of those years at Fox Phoenix. Kari knows the media. I'm sure she's got Piers' number. She'll be fine.

Piers may not be tho 🤣

Piers isn't the golden boy he once was... not since he decided to go full pitbull against Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. I'm interested in seeing where he goes with Kari.... how he plays this. Is he really a problem child of the media? Or maybe trying to get back in mainstream?

a reply to: IndieA

Thank you -- watching now!

I watched the Piers Morgan interview with Kari Lake and it seemed to me that he just wasn't as informed of the situation as he should have been. Therefore, he didn't ask the right questions. No disrespect meant for him, but he came off as soundling like your typical journalist who goes for the shock questions, instead of the actual story, and hopes for an off-balance response. You could tell he already had his mind made up and no new information was going to change it. He even started using "fact checkers'" opinions to fortify his own.

I'm sure that anybody not familiar with the situation in Arizona could have learned anything from that interview except for the phrase "election denier." They've heard that phrase so much out of all the other talking heads and it just reinforces it into their consciousness. Which is the whole purpose it's being done.

a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

It was a disappointing interview. Piers admitted he knew nothing beyond what "fact checkers" told him (who Kari mocked). I got the feeling Kari was waiting for Piers to ask her directly about evidence and he didnt. Kari did talk about 60% of machines not working and why. She also tried to talk about chain-of-custody but Piers was speaking over her and she deferred to him.

Not good. But not a disaster.

I've been doing some musing on the interview with Piers... at the end, Kari invited Piers to Arizona to see the evidence for himself. She also offered to take him on a tour of the border.

I hope Piers does come to Arizona and he does take a look at the evidence for himself. Piers might be just the media rogue needed to fuel the fire.

I say this because he knows what it is to be "canceled" but he refused to be canceled. After the Prince Harry and Meghan Markle interview with Oprah, Piers was fired from his show for saying he didn't believe a word she said. He was also subject to an official inquiry after receiving a record number of complaints for his comments. Piers is now on a different network and his show is called "Uncensored."

If Piers gave it a fair look, he'd no doubt see what we see, and say so.

I'm not holding my breath of course, but it sure would be awesome to see.

I think Bill Mahr is another who could/would go rogue if he actually looked at the evidence. Bill also knows what it is to be "canceled" for wrong-speak. In fact, Bill was canceled before canceling was a thing. He was one of the first!

originally posted by: IndieA
a reply to: Boadicea

I sure hope the appeals court rules soon. I'm shocked they haven't already. Then again, I'm sure they want to have all their ducks in a row before they rule. Especially if they rule in Kari's favor.

I'm guessing that they are pulling their hair out trying to find an acceptable excuse to rule against Lake.

Tomorrow will mark their 7th day of either thinking, or ignoring.

Or is it longer than 7 days?