Dr McCullough 80 percent of Covid 19 cases occur in vaccinated individuals

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

You don't know me. Do not make assumptions.

I made no assumption, I asked a question.

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Ok.

I question the decisions of our leaders. Continually.

I even communicate with my representatives.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

Your leaders are under the impression that you are ok with their fascist ways.

Will you speak up?

Or defend?

Well that is their failures of many lately... When you look at FL and TX Goverment they are pro vac while taking a beating for not stepping in line with the official narrative, but it is up to people to choose. Personally I don't give a rats ass, you don't get the jab and die I really don't care. If you are next to me and not vacced I really don't care if I fart it to you and you die just as if you do not like to wear a seatbelt and crash, have at it...

It's your choice either way. The problem is too many liberals have decided that 70% or 80% vac is the only measurement of success and they gone draconian in forcing it. This will not work no matter how crazy they get. The funny part is IF Trump won then it would be the liberals not getting it and the conservatives screaming about them unvacced...lol

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

I was joking.

Guess I should have included a smiley face?

Sorry...I'm quick reading at times cheers...

a reply to: Phage

Here he is just having an interview along with a good dose of common sense.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Doctor Smith

See how you make stuff up?

Are you still working on the math?

Here. Let me help you out. This doesn't require math. Just a little common sense. You're saying more are vaccinated in Israel, so their would be a lower number of serious infections for those not vaccinated? Well I would say it depends on how they do their statistics.

But if any significant amount are still getting the disease after vaccination, also proves mRNA vaxx isn't effective. Plus the variants are being generated by the vaccines.

And almost zero would have died with proper early treatment.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rounda

You wanted evidence of the "one report."

Yes I did, and do.

The OP was not able to provide it. We know that. But the OP then made a couple of claims of his own, which I countered.

More than 50 percent could be 80 percent.

The vaccinated are doing worse than the un-vaccinated.

The OP has not responded. Which is no surprise.

He doesn't have to respond to you. And it doesn't surprise me he hasn't. You're a dick.

If you want evidence of the "one report," go ask the doctor yourself.

I would also like to see the one report, if it exists.

Are you going to call me dirty names next time if I am the first to ask?

Yep.

You can go ask the doctor yourself too.

Because apparently you, as well as your buddy, have an issue understanding the OP didn't make the claim, the doctor in the video did.

If you have a problem with the content of the video, take it up with the video creator, not the person sharing the video.

That's like watching a documentary on TV, and then you call the TV station and ask them to provide evidence for the documentary you just watched instead of contacting the people who actually made the documentary.

It's completely stupid.

a reply to: Doctor Smith

Well I would say it depends on how they do their statistics.

I'm not talking about "their" statistics. I'm talking about what I posted. Is there an error there?

But if any significant amount are still getting the disease after vaccination, also proves mRNA vaxx isn't effective.

Compared to what? It was never claimed that the mRNA vaccines were 100% effective in any regard.

Plus the variants are being generated by the vaccines.

Prove it.

And almost zero would have died with proper early treatment.

Prove it. I can just as easily claim that without the mitigation measures 2 million would have died in the US.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

Ok.

I question the decisions of our leaders. Continually.

I even communicate with my representatives.

Fantastic.

We need more to do the same.

I no longer communicate with any state or federal politicians, but still question everything on all sides.

And most know who I am at my local county office.

And I do speak out here when able.

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rounda

You wanted evidence of the "one report."

Yes I did, and do.

The OP was not able to provide it. We know that. But the OP then made a couple of claims of his own, which I countered.

More than 50 percent could be 80 percent.

The vaccinated are doing worse than the un-vaccinated.

The OP has not responded. Which is no surprise.

He doesn't have to respond to you. And it doesn't surprise me he hasn't. You're a dick.

If you want evidence of the "one report," go ask the doctor yourself.

I would also like to see the one report, if it exists.

Are you going to call me dirty names next time if I am the first to ask?

Yep.

You can go ask the doctor yourself too.

Because apparently you, as well as your buddy, have an issue understanding the OP didn't make the claim, the doctor in the video did.

If you have a problem with the content of the video, take it up with the video creator, not the person sharing the video.

That's like watching a documentary on TV, and then you call the TV station and ask them to provide evidence for the documentary you just watched instead of contacting the people who actually made the documentary.

It's completely stupid.

I understand that the source I want isn't readily available in the form desired.

I wasn't trying to challenge you on that.

Just stating the obvious, that we need more data.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

I was joking.

Guess I should have included a smiley face?

Sorry...I'm quick reading at times cheers...

I am same.

No worries.

a reply to: Phage


"Plus the variants are being generated by the vaccine.

Prove it."


This is one of the reasons I want more data.

I have a few specific suspicions based on the little information available, but no way to research.

Don't know of a method to prove either way with what we have now.

So nothing more than suspicion.

a reply to: [post=26042197]Nunyabizisit[/post

They talked about it at 4 minutes into the video. Dr McCullough explained it. What more is required?

a reply to: Doctor Smith

What more is required?

My first post in the thread:

Because a statement like that, on its own, is quite meaningless. What was the sample? How many cases? How many of the people were vaccinated and how many were not?

originally posted by: Doctor Smith
a reply to: [post=26042197]Nunyabizisit[/post

They talked about it at 4 minutes into the video. Dr McCullough explained it. What more is required?

I don't know anything about the host, but he did ask pretty good questions.

Don't know anything about the dr. either, but sounded pretty credible, and my bs radar is usually pretty effective.

The doctor made some claims that fairly accurately match some of my most significant suspicions, and sounded pretty confident about it.

Under most circumstances I wouldn't have any problem with this source unless someone else presented derogatory information. I would be comfortable enough to just accept the source without researching for myself.


In this particular case, I am looking for the data used by the doctor's sources, that led the dr. to these conclusions.

Example:

Actual case counts for alpha & delta in brazil and india in the period surrounding the vaccine rollouts there.

Or the actual number of covid 'breakthrough' cases in the U.S.

CDC stopped reporting this according to the dr.

Or even a single state so we can compare it to what msm and democrats have been force feeding us.

Things like that.

Not saying this is a bad source.

Just that more is still needed.

I don't put any credence into reports like this.
Statistics are biased to sell a certain product or idea.
Manipulated data. Nobody is speaking the truth about this virus.
a reply to: Phage

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rounda

You wanted evidence of the "one report."

Yes I did, and do.

The OP was not able to provide it. We know that. But the OP then made a couple of claims of his own, which I countered.

More than 50 percent could be 80 percent.

The vaccinated are doing worse than the un-vaccinated.

The OP has not responded. Which is no surprise.

He doesn't have to respond to you. And it doesn't surprise me he hasn't. You're a dick.

If you want evidence of the "one report," go ask the doctor yourself.

I have to disagree with your second line.

If we write an OP or make a claim, it's our responsibility to back that OP and/or claim up.

Especially when it's in the title.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Doctor Smith

"According to one report." I don't suppose you might happen to be able to provide that report?

Because a statement like that, on its own, is quite meaningless. What was the sample? How many cases? How many of the people were vaccinated and how many were not?

That's because it's complete and utter bull#.

I'm so tired of these 1 off reports. I get, a doctor wants to set out to prove something isn't right but he's wrong. I don't work in the frontlines in the hospitals but our beds are filled with 99% (this was as of 2 weeks ago) of Covid patients that ARE NOT VACCINATTED. This is in all of our regions which account for 13 major hospitals.

We all get it by now...the vaccine does not 100% stop you from getting the virus, this is a fact. The vaccine will keep you out of the hospital (something like 88% last I knew) which is important so that beds can be open for say someone who has cancer or who has been battling another disease. Our nurses, our doctors, and other hospital staff are #ing tired. They already have a shortage of workers and this # does not stop because of pure ignorance.

Hey ATS...every page you go to it states "DENY IGNORANCE". Live by the moto!

/endrant

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: rounda

You wanted evidence of the "one report."

Yes I did, and do.

The OP was not able to provide it. We know that. But the OP then made a couple of claims of his own, which I countered.

More than 50 percent could be 80 percent.

The vaccinated are doing worse than the un-vaccinated.

The OP has not responded. Which is no surprise.

He doesn't have to respond to you. And it doesn't surprise me he hasn't. You're a dick.

If you want evidence of the "one report," go ask the doctor yourself.

I have to disagree with your second line.

If we write an OP or make a claim, it's our responsibility to back that OP and/or claim up.

Especially when it's in the title.

Again... The OP didn't make the claim. The doctor in the video made the claim. The OP posted the link to the video, and quoted what was in the video.

If you have a problem with the contents of the video, take it up with the video creator.

The OP is under no obligation to do your research.