Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: dragonridr

You are wrong as well it doesn't teach your body to make the protein.

Are you saying the link from the CDC is wrong?

No just your understanding of it your only half right. Without the mRNA instructions, your body can't produce the protein.

Yeah.....I never said it could.

I think you imagined that I did....

And I did not imply that after (any amount of time) it would carry on production.

You said that the body would attack itself, which it won't because the protein that its being trained to attack isn't a normal part of the body, its an alien protein.

You've watched a couple of anti vaxer videos on BitChute and now you think you've got a Master in biology, but you've not even done pre bio 101 prep.

If the body won't attack itself and if the jab recipient never had Covid in the first place, then why is there miocarditis or any other organ inflammation happening?

Common sense is not your friend. Please explain, with science, why there are adverse reactions of a similar nature among many jab recipients....especially enlarged hearts.

a reply to: Vasa Croe
While any cases are not what we want, this is the data on the vaccine vs the infection in this area.

Physicians would have expected to find eight or fewer cases of myocarditis among the 436,000 male military members who received two mRNA shots, according to the study. But 20 military members developed inflammation after their second dose, including 14 after the Moderna shot and six after the Pfizer shot. Three developed the condition after their first vaccine.

www.military.com...

In a report submitted today to the Israeli Ministry of Health, they conclude that between one in 3000 and one in 6000 men ages 16 to 24 who received the vaccine developed the rare condition. But most cases were mild and resolved within a few weeks

www.sciencemag.org...

German researchers found over 60 cases in 100 subjects, most of whom did not require hospitalization and had mild or asymptomatic cases.

Conclusions and relevance: In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: BatSars

Saying that heart inflammation is a side effect of the vax is like saying concussion is a side effect of going to a bar.

Yes, some people will be punched in the face hard enough to concuss them during a bar fight, but 99.998% of people will just have a drink and then go home.

The risk of heart inflammation is microscopic. Something like 2 billion people have been vaxed and only a handful have had bad side effects at all. You stand more chance of being injured on your way to get vaxed than by the vax itself. You stand more chance of being injured at an anti vax rally than by the vax.

Just stop with the unnecessary fear.

I get it, you hate trump, but when you dump on his vaccine you cause real world problem for other people. Your doing harm to more than just his legacy.

People keep using VAERS as some proof of whatever ...

So what about the 3000% increase in VAERS reports over last year? Shouldn't that raise a RED Flag?

Forgive me if this has already been posted. This man was the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology. His warnings have been suppressed by the all-knowing media. It's important that people hear him. Who better to tell us what's happening with this vaccine than the man who created it?

rumble.com...

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
a reply to: BatSars

Take Pfizer, potentially get heart issues.
Take AstraZeneca potentially get blood clots.
Take Moderna and potentially experience anaphylaxis.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and still get and spread Covid.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and potentially die.

We're spoilt for choice.

Still think I am going to take my chance with Covid itself.

Statistically covid is many times more likely to kill you than all of the vaccines combined. Even if it does not kill you the risk of even slight sickness will put a cramp on your life at a higher risk than getting the shot.

Your essentially saying that you'd rather not wear a seat belt than risk your ex hidding in the back seat and strangling you with it.

You have more chance of being shot by accident by one of your children than being harmed by the covid shot.

I've already had my immune system seriously screwed once by some really strong antibiotics that the hospital at the time never explained the potential consequences of having injected into my body.

Took a few months before those 'side effects' kicked in and now I have to live out my days with them. I've forgotten what it feels like to feel normal.

The cure I think was worse than the disease in all honesty.

Nothing goes into my body any more unless I am 200% educated on all the pros and cons and if the potential cons outweigh the pros then it's a no from me.

The potential risks for myself in regards to covid vaccines outweigh any potential pros they may have if any.
When I see bodies piling up in the streets like I expect from a real pandemic. When I see something worse than the average flu fatalities in regards to covid, I may reconsider but not before and not when my eyes and ears contradict what the main stream media and government tells me.

tl;dr sometimes wearing a seat belt results in you getting whip lash. A seat belt won't save you when the car you're in goes under a semi-trailer.

Sorry I am going to disagree with your metaphorical statistics. Especially the getting shot by my kids. I'm an Australian, my kids shooting me is practically 0.

Going by the knowledge of my own physiology, covid vaccines are 'statistically' more likely to kill me than covid or anything else. Just like how if I get flushots I am guaranteed to get sick everytime versus possibly getting the flu.

I've had the flu twice in 15 years now. Flu shot I would of been sick 15 times.

But please, do show me the statistics your quoting that say I have more chance of dying from covid than from a covid shot. Then tell me where those statistics got my medical history and intimate knowledge of my body from.

I've blindly followed doctors before and paid the price. I've been that '1 in a million'. Won't ever be doing that again and especially not from listening to any randoms online who I've never met and know nothing about me.

Wonder how people would feel if I followed their uninformed advice and ended up dead or with another serious and permanent health issue?

Sure covid could possibly kill me, the common flu could also kill me. An almost infinite amount of things could 'statistically' kill me.

At least if that happens I know I'll die free making my own choices for my own body.

Seatbelts? Call me when wearing one has the potential to clot my blood or damage my heart etc. while potentially saving my life in the off chance I have a crash.

Funny you mention seatbelts. In my country 'statistically' speaking you have more chance of dying in a vehicle accident than from covid. So maybe not the best analogy's you're using there.

But I do sincerely appreciate your concern for my well being, even if I feel it is misplaced.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
You personally know 1000s of people whom you have spoken with after their shots and none had any kind of bad reaction?

Well more along the lines of 1000s from my work didn't miss a day of work over it. I'm in a position to know if they did, does that help?

Out of the 100 or so folks I do interact with personally, maybe 60 or so have had the jab. I personally know 4 that died shortly after, all with enlarged hearts, all very healthy and in their early 40's. I know multiple others that were sick for a couple days after the second shot.

Sorry I don't believe you...

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

Depends....the shots have been out for phase 3 trials since November 2020, so if anything is going on with pregnancies it would be coming up in the next month....we will see!

Phase 3 was over before the emer release. They do that with many drugs, but I agree not on this scale. Phase 4 is monitoring after market release, so that is it for testing for all drugs with Phase 4 not really a test.

originally posted by: Jimy718

So what about the 3000% increase in VAERS reports over last year? Shouldn't that raise a RED Flag?

No....

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

Depends....the shots have been out for phase 3 trials since November 2020, so if anything is going on with pregnancies it would be coming up in the next month....we will see!

Phase 3 was over before the emer release. They do that with many drugs, but I agree not on this scale. Phase 4 is monitoring after market release, so that is it for testing for all drugs with Phase 4 not really a test.

So I guess we are in limbo right now? Because they don't have phase 4 approval....none do. Is this a special grey area?

Please point me to any human mRNA FDA approved/licensed anything....

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
That shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what is happening.

No, it is you that shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the entire process.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Your body does not produce the protein. Its alien to your body which is why you attack it.

Wrong. The vaccine makes your body produce it, temporarily.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
The protein is on the outside of the covid virus.

When you are vaccinated, the protein is also found on the outside of some of your healthy cells.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
The vax is training your body to recognize it as a threat.

It also inadvertently trains your body to recognize healthy cells as a threat.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
mRNA can't replicate and can't change your body to produce it.

The mRNA is injected into your body, multiple times. The vaccine causes your body to produce the S protein.

This causes your immune system to create antibodies and autoantibodies.


This is how the mRNA vaccine works:


Do you see now?


Your immune system identifies threats based on the proteins on the surface.

unsolvedmysteries.oregonstate.edu...



If you have spikes on the surface of your healthy cells, guess what your immune system attacks?

This is why autoimmune diseases exist. Our immune system malfunctions and attacks healthy cells thinking they are a threat. This vaccine can actually cause that to happen.

Friendly fire: How autoantibodies could drive severe Covid
knowablemagazine.org...

There are lots of possible routes for autoantibodies to sneak through the quality control process

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Imagine, Combes says, a B cell with an antibody that binds a foreign invader, but also sticks, just slightly, to some tissue, cell or molecule in the human body. It might sneak through the quality control process.

The vaccine forces S protein to come out of healthy cells, and increases the chances antibodies binding to both the S protein and also stick to healthy cells. This would allow it to evade clonal deletion and become an autoantibody that causes autoimmune disease.

Horrific Findings In The Blood Of The Vaccinated

www.roxytube.com...

a reply to: sled735

Is that the guy who is such an expert we need to listen to him, he knows everything, yet took the shot because he trusted the experts? Well isn't he the expert?

a reply to: More1ThanAny1

A few problems with your post. Most of the problems are associated with the way the body responds to a severe illness, which would not happen during vaccination.

Your post makes it sounds like your body will always mount an auto-immune response, which is untrue. The bodies safeguards are much more likely to work as intended with the vaccine. The problem you describe can happen, but extremely rarely. It happens much more commonly with Covid, which is why you cant say the vaccine is terrible and covid is nothing but a cold.

What if C-19 is not a virus at all? what if it is a parasitic infection?

The so called cold symptoms are the bodies reactions to a foreign invader whether it be a virus or other. This may explain the random organ inflammation, reinfection and why some anti-parasitic drugs seem to be working well.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

So I guess we are in limbo right now? Because they don't have phase 4 approval....none do. Is this a special grey area?

Please point me to any human mRNA FDA approved/licensed anything....

So for Phase 1-3 (human testing) The FDA approves each Phase and works with the company along the way. Once Phase 3 is done that is it for testing for any drug. After that it is basically the bureaucracy of the system, and this is why a drug can be approved in EU years before America, same testing etc, but smaller bureaucracy.

Phase 4 is monitoring from the FDA after approval whether emer or normal, and I don't think the Phase ever ends. When you see a commercial about a drug and at the end they run a fast long list of 100 side effects I'm sure the vast majority come from Phase 4 monitoring.

Phase 1 is well under 100 people, phase 2 is a couple of hundred and phase 3 is like 3000. With COVID vaccine I think phase 3 was like 300k, and they are still testing age groups etc, so testing with this vaccine has been at a crazy level compared to anything else.

Is this good enough for you? Most likely not, but when I ask what do people want they say things like long term testing, and I ask OK how long??? I get no answer, also how do you do it? Should we use 3rd world countries as our test beds? What most anti people want is not doable or down right evil to do...lol

The question is, if FDA fully approved it tomorrow would you get it? I think not, so why ask me for paperwork...

The thing with mRNA is it has been around for almost 3 decades and they were working with it on some really nasty diseases like Ebola and Rabies to also include cancer. Since they had the process down it only took them two days to make the COVID mRNA blueprint, and that is kind of the magic of it all that the process is that quick.

You don't like it I get it, then don't get it...That is the best advice I can give.

originally posted by: sled735
Forgive me if this has already been posted. This man was the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology. His warnings have been suppressed by the all-knowing media. It's important that people hear him. Who better to tell us what's happening with this vaccine than the man who created it?

Actually he is not the inventor... He was a grad student at UC Davis back in the late 80s working with the team that invented it. He is listed on a couple of the patents, but do you know what grad students do? They basically do the grunt work... After that for decades he was involved with other things as work continued with mRNA, so he hasn't really been associated with it for a very long time and when he was he was a grunt on the team.

So believe all you want...

a reply to: Xtrozero

The FDA hasn't approved nor licensed it at all....it is only under EUA....that means not approved or licensed. I have stated this over and over and even shown the Pfizer and Moderna Press releases stating such from their own PR teams.

And yes....if FDA approved and licensed I will get it, as I have with every other actual vaccine I have gotten.

Doesn't matter if I like it. Perpetuating the lie that any of them have approval or have been licensed is disingenuous at best.

Here is Pfizer press release.....bolded by me.

Pfizer press release

The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has not been approved or licensed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 16 years of age and older.

Modernas is worded the same.

Moderna Press release

These risks, uncertainties, and other factors include, among others: the fact that there has never been a commercial product utilizing mRNA technology approved for use

So please spare me your interpretation as this comes directly from the manufacturers.....

Again....none have been approved nor licensed....none.

originally posted by: More1ThanAny1

The vaccine forces S protein to come out of healthy cells, and increases the chances antibodies binding to both the S protein and also stick to healthy cells. This would allow it to evade

So the mRNA does what the virus does, but on a significantly smaller scale... What is your issues with it again?

A Cell has about 200k RNA in it and the process of making protein is a natural event in the cell. What makes mRNA truly an elegant approach is it just uses the natural process of a cell to make the invading spike protein to trigger your immune response. No drugs needed, no Chemo therapy needed etc. etc. Just the natural response of a cell...truly elegant approach. Not only that, it takes a couple of days to manufacture the mRNA for whatever.

The virus does the same, it can not reproduce on its own so it uses the natural processes in a cell to make the components it needs to replicate. The big difference is the viruses tears up your system at a crazy level as it replicates for weeks on end.

I have said this a couple of times... If a Great White took a two foot bite out of someone the anti vaccers would be worried about maybe getting an infection, and the rest of us would be saying what about the two foot bite!! The virus is that two foot bite...

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Xtrozero

The FDA hasn't approved nor licensed it at all....it is only under EUA....that means not approved or licensed. I have stated this over and over and even shown the Pfizer and Moderna Press releases stating such from their own PR teams.

And yes....if FDA approved and licensed I will get it, as I have with every other actual vaccine I have gotten.

SOOOooo to you the difference in whether a drug is dangerous or safe is the bureaucracy of it all, that is such a bullsh!t statement...lol

Even I have concerns in I don't think people under 30 should get it and NOT kids. Kids should have gone back to in classroom last year so that herd immunity could do its thing for 100 million of our population, then vacc everyone else who are willing and we would be at 70%+ already. Well that is what I would have done.

Playing the FDA approval game is stupid and means nothing as to whether it is safe or not.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Xtrozero

The FDA hasn't approved nor licensed it at all....it is only under EUA....that means not approved or licensed. I have stated this over and over and even shown the Pfizer and Moderna Press releases stating such from their own PR teams.

And yes....if FDA approved and licensed I will get it, as I have with every other actual vaccine I have gotten.

SOOOooo to you the difference in whether a drug is dangerous or safe is the bureaucracy of it all, that is such a bullsh!t statement...lol

Even I have concerns in I don't think people under 30 should get it and NOT kids. Kids should have gone back to in classroom last year so that herd immunity could do its thing for 100 million of our population, then vacc everyone else who are willing and we would be at 70%+ already. Well that is what I would have done.

Playing the FDA approval game is stupid and means nothing as to whether it is safe or not.

Bureaucracy? I'm not the one saying it is approved. That is the only bull$hit statement here.

So why even have the FDA then? What a silly argument. You do know clinical trials and approval typically take a decade or more right? We aren't even at 1 year yet....