Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax

originally posted by: Bearack
a reply to: Xtrozero

I am NO expert in this field by any stretch as I've only been in the field in data management for the last 6 years, however I know DNA sequencing is an extremely patient specific (gene therapy) so each trial is low enrollment and the results are generally not good.. Granted, those peoples sacrifice are for the better good. I know there have been vast strides in Sickle cell, however.

Lol neither am I....

From my understanding mDNA is more gene therapy i.e. cancer, BUT mRNA in a process can get the second helix to become DNA, it is all interesting. I hope this ends up to be the BIG thing dwarfing penicillin.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

Any old school physician will tell you not to do anything unless it is necessary....as in you can't take the pain, or whatever anymore. That is the only time you get a medical procedure done.

We are not really debating this as you and I are much more closer in thought then you might think.

What we are doing is playing god with experimental science.

At some point it all becomes moot because one day as we will know how it all works and in the end it becomes common practice. Think about a time when you are diagnose with cancer and a month later it is gone with no treatments needed. I'm excited about it all while many fear the unknown as what they think they know it to be. Do you know the next big fighter jet the F35 had its first flight 20 years ago, so even the very new is not so new. These are things to think about and we have two paths we can go. A positive one where big cures are right around the corner, or NWO depopulation of the plant. I guess we can choose which direction we think humanity is trying to go.

I'd be much more inclined to sink a ton of money into combating cancer. Covid is a nothing....drop in the bucket....

The reality is COVID vaccine was a side project of the real stuff...Tons of money dumped into it. The last time we did that was with HIV...In 10 years we learned more about how we worked than in the last 5000 years, and in such as short period of time. We didn't know what T-cells etc were before that as example and today it is common knowledge. Today HIV is under control and that is about the hardest virus we have ever tried to tackle.

I don't need anyone to tell me a unapproved vaccine is the way to go. I know it isn't....and I base my assertions on personal experience of having it, as well as my oldest. Nothing happened....nothing will happen....it is literally all politically driven BS.

There you go back to the bureaucracy of it all. Show me a piece of paper saying it is safe and I'm good kind of mentality. I disagree, even if they said it was approved tomorrow my views would not change. It is interesting you might have big concerns today with the same people you would trust 100% tomorrow...lol

The fact Kamala Harris said she wouldn't take a vaccine Trump made is hilarious, considering it is the exact same vaccine she took that was made during Trumps presidency....

It is ALL political.

Well she wasn't the only one. They also said it would be a dark winder with no vaccine until 2022 or 2023. Today they are high fiving each other like they did it.

I truly wonder how this would all have gone down IF the virus came in 2018, I think 99% of what states did and the push back from the liberals was political. AND that is why we are where we are today where no one can believe anyone on anything. We would most likely have saved trillions...

originally posted by: Doctor Smith

Until it is proven safe and effective. And liability for any problems are excepted by the manufacturer. What's the problem? It's either safe and effective or not. Except responsibility Biden.

So how about when 2 or 3 billon people get it...wait we are already there. What would have been the better path? Maybe to use 3rd world countries as our guinea pigs? At some point you will need a lot of people to prove anything...or do you disagree...

originally posted by: dragonridr

I know a study just went up for peer review that your 6 times more likely to have myocarditis occur because of covid over the vaccine. There are further studies being done to confirm this.

Only 6 times...

Think about it for a second. mRNA is basically COVID RNA with things turned off to NOT produce the proteins that make new viruses.

1. You get the vaccine and you get a limited number of mRNA that uses cells to produce the protein to trigger the immune system. In a day the mRNA is gone and a few days later the proteins are gone.

2. You get the virus that can spend 2 weeks making new viruses killing cells, getting into all parts of the body. Then your body fights it off for 4 days for healthy people or weeks on end for those not so healthy, or even longer to include death. What the actual virus does to the cells to crazy worst than anything the spike protein might do, BUT the levels is at some astronomical level as to what the actual virus is dumping into your body compared to the vaccine.

Then people say the virus is not an issue, BUT the vaccine is a killer...lol

Guys, can I ask you? Can someone create a new thread with this link below to Medscape discussion, where (as I see, if I'm not mistaken) medical workers post info about their side effects from vaccination? I'm a new user here, so, I guess, I can not create threads yet. Hope this info will be useful for you and actually is not fabricated. Thanks



Discussion "How concerned are you about adverse events related to the vaccines?"

a reply to: FeliciaF0x

Does this look like a medical professional's post?

Dr. Josh Hills53 minutes ago
Look i had one shot of AZ and already my knees were weak, arms were sweaty, vomit on my sweater already, moms spaghetti, i was nervous but on the surface i still look calm and ready, i opened my mouth and the words just won't come out im choking now, the clocks run out, times up, its over blaow

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: FeliciaF0x

Does this look like a medical professional's post?

Dr. Josh Hills53 minutes ago
Look i had one shot of AZ and already my knees were weak, arms were sweaty, vomit on my sweater already, moms spaghetti, i was nervous but on the surface i still look calm and ready, i opened my mouth and the words just won't come out im choking now, the clocks run out, times up, its over blaow

You had one person talking about getting a botox injection to prevent headaches. But blaming their sore neck on the covid shot. Looking through them these is just people who have symptoms and are clueless as to the cause. Seems like the biggest complaint is a rash and burning sensation. I saw post after post of people getting blood work and ct scans that came back with nothing. Meaning it is ruling out the vaccine. But people believe what they will.

Even the one was diagnosed with lupus which has genetic causes. 9 out of 10 cases are women and of that 7 of 10 are black. The odds of this being caused by the vaccine would be very low they would already have had to have it and the vaccine is causing a flare up.

a reply to: dragonridr

And if these are actually Doctors I would be shocked. They display no medical knowledge and they can't even spell simple words correctly.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

Does this look like a medical professional's post?

]Dr. Josh Hills53 minutes ago
Look i had one shot of AZ and already my knees were weak, arms were sweaty, vomit on my sweater already, moms spaghetti, i was nervous but on the surface i still look calm and ready, i opened my mouth and the words just won't come out im choking now, the clocks run out, times up, its over blaow

I think I could make a song with that, I bet it would be a hit... Maybe ask Eminem to rap it or something...

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Depends on the medical professional, if he is a med.prof. at all. Nurses, doctors and other med. workers are people first of all and people sometimes react to some situations quite emotionally, which can lead to so-called "false" conclusions

I should say I'm note sure, if the "side effects" described by these people really are side effects from vaccination and are not consequences from chronic illness or drug interation or allergic reaction etc.

I guess, as most people, I don't have an information, which I think I can somehow rely on. It's all an information, which could be intentionally or unintentionally distorted.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

The Pfizer and moderna vaccination is affecting teenagers with heart inflamation and myocarditis , mainly males and some females, it's over 300 of these young kids with heart imflamation, that will probably effect them the rest of their lives, i don't find that rare, there are probably more people not reporting it because they don't know what's going on. I read an article awhile ago when they first started giving the vaccines to teens that a young male came down with heart imflamation and he will np longer play sports because his heart will always be affected. Yet you think this is rare, this is a tragedy in my opinion. Here is the article from webmd.

www.webmd.com...

a reply to: Bigburgh

It's actually both vaccines that are causing heart imflamation, not just one or the other.

a reply to: liliththedestroyer

Actually for most of them it will not effect them.

“The vast majority have fully resolved with rest and supportive care,”

While I would not want any cases, 300 out of 20 million is rare. Covid also causes heart inflammation, only much more common.

A German study found inflammation even with asymptomatic patients.

Conclusions and Relevance In this study of a cohort of German patients recently recovered from COVID-19 infection, CMR revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and time from the original diagnosis. These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.

Most patients recovered at home (n = 67), with severity of the acute COVID-19 illness ranging from asymptomatic (n = 18) to minor to moderate symptoms (n = 49). A total of 33 severely unwell patients (33%) required hospitalization.

Why do I read these things AFTER getting vaccinated? It's like reading the nutritional info on a Big Mac after I ate the thing.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: detroitnative
Looks like Google, Facebook and some big hedge funds are mandating that you get the vaccine or you can walk. Most will follow. Pretty soon you wont be able to buy or sell unless you get the mark, err I mean the vaccine.

Really?

According to you.

Another new user peddling stuff .

Dude.. Read the news much? Or do you just troll in ignorance? You an old user of ATS?

a reply to: detroitnative

I'm an old user. I see you are new. Calling other folk trolls is frowned on on here. Dude...

a reply to: marg6043

Over the months, I've read that ivermectin and remdesivir are used at different stages of progression. I saw something about an inhaled cortisone drug that reduced inflammation in the lungs for an advanced state and hcq at any time.

Sorry to hear about your son in law. Hope he gets back to normal.

a reply to: dragonridr

great info

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: HawkEyi

Actually I asked you for numbers to show the risk is higher with the vaccine. You refuse to do so.

So if covid is more deadly and the vaccine lowers your risk of serious illness and death it shouldn't be taken?

Covid isn't more deadly if, one is not elderly, isn't immuno compromised and doesn't have pre existing conditions. The data so far is pretty clear on that.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters

Great, give me the data, not words.