Fatal Heart Inflammation Officially Recognized as Being Caused by Pfizer Vax

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

I just checked your numbers are wrong so far CDC shows reporting that 6,207 (0.0018 percent) of individuals who received the vaccine had died. Do you even realize the number of people that have been vaccinated? 70 percent of the adult population in the united states there has never been a vaccine taken on this scale. They are doing 3 million shots per day since June! currently, us is at 163,312,474 vaccinated as of July 21st.

So the bottom line is on this scale even if there were 6207 deaths caused by the vaccine. This isn't true because anyone who dies that had the vaccine is reported. And not every death was caused by the vaccine in fact most were not but thats besides the point lets say they were. So far in the US 610,952 have died from Covid. So which side of this equation is it safer to be on?

Interesting you take this stance for vaccines, yet the almighty powers above still don’t like talking about this in relation to the disease. How many people have actually had covid? Far more than tested.
How many have died due to covid and not WITH covid?

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

I just checked your numbers are wrong so far CDC shows reporting that 6,207 (0.0018 percent) of individuals who received the vaccine had died. Do you even realize the number of people that have been vaccinated? 70 percent of the adult population in the united states there has never been a vaccine taken on this scale. They are doing 3 million shots per day since June! currently, us is at 163,312,474 vaccinated as of July 21st.

So the bottom line is on this scale even if there were 6207 deaths caused by the vaccine. This isn't true because anyone who dies that had the vaccine is reported. And not every death was caused by the vaccine in fact most were not but thats besides the point lets say they were. So far in the US 610,952 have died from Covid. So which side of this equation is it safer to be on?

My data came from VAERS. Also you seemed to miss completely my point (as is your way) that safer vaccines exist from Novavax among others that entered clinical trials before the mRNA jabs and work better with far lower risk so if this were an emergency, why aren't protein subunit vaccines being made available at least as an alternative? (A hint, any answer other than money is a lie.) You misunderstand how risk works. The choice isn't between risking death from COVID-19 vs risking death from the vaccine, 30% of UK Delta variant deaths have been in the fully vaccinated. Risk is cumulative not binary. I want a safer vaccine, and until it is available to me I'll happily take my chances.

originally posted by: SentientBunnySuit

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: SentientBunnySuit

I just checked your numbers are wrong so far CDC shows reporting that 6,207 (0.0018 percent) of individuals who received the vaccine had died. Do you even realize the number of people that have been vaccinated? 70 percent of the adult population in the united states there has never been a vaccine taken on this scale. They are doing 3 million shots per day since June! currently, us is at 163,312,474 vaccinated as of July 21st.

So the bottom line is on this scale even if there were 6207 deaths caused by the vaccine. This isn't true because anyone who dies that had the vaccine is reported. And not every death was caused by the vaccine in fact most were not but thats besides the point lets say they were. So far in the US 610,952 have died from Covid. So which side of this equation is it safer to be on?

My data came from VAERS. Also you seemed to miss completely my point (as is your way) that safer vaccines exist from Novavax among others that entered clinical trials before the mRNA jabs and work better with far lower risk so if this were an emergency, why aren't protein subunit vaccines being made available at least as an alternative? (A hint, any answer other than money is a lie.) You misunderstand how risk works. The choice isn't between risking death from COVID-19 vs risking death from the vaccine, 30% of UK Delta variant deaths have been in the fully vaccinated. Risk is cumulative not binary. I want a safer vaccine, and until it is available to me I'll happily take my chances.

Unfortunately I do not believe money is the only motive. This is literally for the control of the entire planet. Money plays a role, certainty, but the game is much larger than most of us understand.
Cheers

I’ve been studying the Novavax vaccine a lot. My doctor is looking forward to it he says - he is not currently vaxxed and since he treats those of us with auto immune disorders (shown to have a higher incidence of problems with the vac), he’s not recommending the current version for most of us.

Forbes even wrote an article recently that Nova will likely appeal to many who didn’t want an MRNA version. Their trials are down and they’ve petitioned the FDA for emergency use. Their trials showed 96% efficacy for original and 90.4 across the board with variants included.

If the intent is really to get everyone vaccinated, since so many are believed to be waiting on such a vaccine that is more “traditional,” if the authorization doesn’t get stalled, I’ll be more likely to believe intent of TPTB is more genuine. But is the FDA drags on Novavax (which had minimal side effects despite its efficacy), then I’m really going to wonder...

a reply to: SeventhChapter

a reply to: BatSars

Take Pfizer, potentially get heart issues.
Take AstraZeneca potentially get blood clots.
Take Moderna and potentially experience anaphylaxis.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and still get and spread Covid.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and potentially die.

We're spoilt for choice.

Still think I am going to take my chance with Covid itself.

a reply to: SeventhChapter

This has the potential to backfire.

originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
a reply to: BatSars

Take Pfizer, potentially get heart issues.
Take AstraZeneca potentially get blood clots.
Take Moderna and potentially experience anaphylaxis.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and still get and spread Covid.
Take any Covid 'vaccine' and potentially die.

We're spoilt for choice.

Still think I am going to take my chance with Covid itself.

Statistically covid is many times more likely to kill you than all of the vaccines combined. Even if it does not kill you the risk of even slight sickness will put a cramp on your life at a higher risk than getting the shot.

Your essentially saying that you'd rather not wear a seat belt than risk your ex hidding in the back seat and strangling you with it.

You have more chance of being shot by accident by one of your children than being harmed by the covid shot.

a reply to: AtomicKangaroo

Take any of the mRNA or DNA based vaccines and you may get an autoimmune disease.

It was a serious lapse in judgement to think our immune system will only learn to attack the spike protein, and not the healthy cells that are made to emit them by the vaccine.

Since there are no known tests for most autoimmune diseases, you will on average go 4 to 5 years with generic symptoms before you are correctly diagnosed.

originally posted by: More1ThanAny1
a reply to: AtomicKangaroo

Take any of the mRNA or DNA based vaccines and you may get an autoimmune disease.

It was a serious lapse in judgement to think our immune system will only learn to attack the spike protein, and not the healthy cells that are made to emit them by the vaccine.

Since there are no known tests for most autoimmune diseases, you will on average go 4 to 5 years with generic symptoms before you are correctly diagnosed.

That shows a fundamental lack of understanding of what is happening.

Your body does not produce the protein. Its alien to your body which is why you attack it.

The protein is on the outside of the covid virus. The vax is training your body to recognize it as a threat.

mRNA can't replicate and can't change your body to produce it.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
The shot teaches your cells to make the protein......did you not know this?

To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
www.cdc.gov...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
The shot teaches your cells to make the protein......did you not know this?

To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
www.cdc.gov...

An alien protein used by the covid virus. Did you not know this?

mRNA can't self replicate and it can't alter your DNA. The protein isn't part of you so it can be attacked without harming you.

This isn't particularly complicated.

And yet you get it wrong. Playing word games for your amusement might help you pass the time, but it’s dangerous misinformation.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
The shot teaches your cells to make the protein......did you not know this?

To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
www.cdc.gov...

An alien protein used by the covid virus. Did you not know this?

mRNA can't self replicate and it can't alter your DNA. The protein isn't part of you so it can be attacked without harming you.

This isn't particularly complicated.

a reply to: dragonridr

I'm in the field of cancer clinical trials (data guy) and mRNA actually has been around for 3 decades and there has still been no treatment FDA approved. It's progressing, but as I stated before, it's at least a decade away from being a common treatment.

originally posted by: Neobucket
And yet you get it wrong. Playing word games for your amusement might help you pass the time, but it’s dangerous misinformation.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
The shot teaches your cells to make the protein......did you not know this?

To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
www.cdc.gov...

An alien protein used by the covid virus. Did you not know this?

mRNA can't self replicate and it can't alter your DNA. The protein isn't part of you so it can be attacked without harming you.

This isn't particularly complicated.

MRNA can't self replicate, it can't alter your DNA, and the covid 19 spike protein that the vax targets isn't one that your body normally uses.

You clearly don't understand even the most basic things about it, I'd suggest that you at least watch a PBS or discovery channel documentary on this.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: AaarghZombies
The shot teaches your cells to make the protein......did you not know this?

To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines | CDC
www.cdc.gov...

You are wrong as well it doesn't teach your body to make the protein. Think of it as a blueprint that tells it how to make the protein the problem is once it's done the mRNA is destroyed by the transfection process. In other words, after the protein piece is made, the cell breaks down the instructions and gets rid of them.

The instructions only work a limited time about 3 hours then they are destroyed. And if they are not used they degrade within 3 days as the lipid nanoparticles break down. So after 3 days, you won't even be producing the protein anymore.

a reply to: dragonridr

You are wrong as well it doesn't teach your body to make the protein.

Are you saying the link from the CDC is wrong?
And I never mentioned 'body' btw.

What is the timeline on these issues. I'm 43 and have had a similar myocarditis issue currently. But I'm 6 months post vax. They're trying to relate it to a tick illness but I've not had a bite this year.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: dragonridr

You are wrong as well it doesn't teach your body to make the protein.

Are you saying the link from the CDC is wrong?

No just your understanding of it your only half right. Without the mRNA instructions, your body can't produce the protein. So its more accurate to say the vaccine shows a cell how to make the protein but just like the messages from spies the instructions self-destruct.

originally posted by: ChrisM101
What is the timeline on these issues. I'm 43 and have had a similar myocarditis issue currently. But I'm 6 months post vax. They're trying to relate it to a tick illness but I've not had a bite this year.

If your body is going to have an immune response it's usually within 3 days however it can take a couple of weeks for the symptoms to disappear. If it's been 6 months you are dealing with a different infection As by then if you had an allergic reaction to the antigens your body produces they would have been destroyed.

Oddly, Pfizer and Monsanto used to be one company and still have close ties....GMO's with your jab anyone? Surely they have tested the effects of GMOs with their "vaccine" right? Or could there be a crossover there that hasn't been looked at or studied....