-@TH3WH17ERABB17- -Q- Questions. - They Don't Know Who We Be - -PART- -7H1R7Y sIx-

originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating

originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
There are no ET. There are aerial phenomena that currently can’t be explained.

There are/is no species that we can’t account for originating on Earth.

I know it freaks some people out that we are alone but don’t worry… in 130 years not a soul alive today will be living so the fear is short lived.

You know how off-putting it is when people speak in absolute terms about things they can't possibly know?

So, if it "can't be known", how do you know?

Find a post where I said I knew. I'll wait...

I already did. You said that nobody else can know, but how do YOU know that? It takes a certain level of understanding to make that assumption.

Not really. The user made an affirmative negative claim. "There are no ETs." This is a statement that is impossible to prove. Not sure why you would take issue with that. The user I'm referencing acknowledged it was erroneous.

originally posted by: Caled
Response; he is not a believer and does not want to hurt believers dreams.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: SkipperJohn

Trump was just on the Dan Bongino Radio Show.

"Is there something the government is not telling us about this UFO thing?"

twitter.com...

He also said, "I'm a believer in what you see." In the past he has spoken to this as well and he said, "these are pilots, in that particular world." He could have been talking about the people reporting it, or the people in the UAPs. He is deliberately evasive whenever someone brings that up and he always quickly changes the subject. Wouldn't expect anything less.

What I gather from his comments is that they aren't aliens, but that they're our own. He has said in the past that he is open minded to the possibility of aliens, but skeptical.

originally posted by: Caled
Response; he is not a believer and does not want to hurt believers dreams.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: SkipperJohn

Trump was just on the Dan Bongino Radio Show.

"Is there something the government is not telling us about this UFO thing?"

twitter.com...

Some insight on his POV HERE

Keep in mind he never said inject yourself with bleach, or White Supremacists are good people, but many believe he did. Being in that positions means parsing for BOTH sides of the polarity. In mixed company I say a whole lot less then I do among those who are confidantes - he does as well.

originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating

originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: PioneerFigureSkating

originally posted by: PilSungMtnMan
There are no ET. There are aerial phenomena that currently can’t be explained.

There are/is no species that we can’t account for originating on Earth.

I know it freaks some people out that we are alone but don’t worry… in 130 years not a soul alive today will be living so the fear is short lived.

You know how off-putting it is when people speak in absolute terms about things they can't possibly know?

So, if it "can't be known", how do you know?

Find a post where I said I knew. I'll wait...

I already did. You said that nobody else can know, but how do YOU know that? It takes a certain level of understanding to make that assumption.

Here is the thing. The answer will not be found by looking outward. PFS is saying (if I may be so bold) that his perception is derived from inward understanding, not documents or authority figures or consensus acceptance. No one will find what they are looking for outside - all esoteric teachings (even the bad ones) say this.

This topic is no different from inner peace, knowing source, knowing music or whatever. And those "things" will only be "found" when the inner vibration matches what is to be perceived.

When you finally perceive it, you have already known it.

A person with perfect pitch can hear all the notes in a mixed bag of notes, one with relative pitch cannot but can hear them in a different way. One with no musical training can only hear the combined sound. The notes are there regardless, but attuning one's vibration allows access. But... the one born with Perfect Pitch has the advantage, as it is within - knowing is already there, as such, they have trouble conveying this to others without it.

Triangle-shaped UFO spotted flying past International Space station as viewers claim glowing aircraft is ‘100% an alien’
thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/15051171/triangle-shaped-ufo-international-space-station-aircraft-100-alien/

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US submarines detect mysterious speeding crafts underwater ahead of Pentagon UFO report

The US Navy has picked up sonar data showing mysterious fast-moving objects underwater that cannot be explained by experts or current technology. Washington Examiner's Tom Rogan said that US Navy "has the data" to prove the bizarre encounters. Some of these encounters could be included in the US Government task force which is preparing to brief Congress on its UFO findings next month.

express.co.uk/news/weird/1439906/UFO-Pentagon-sighting-US-Navy-submarines-aliens-mysterious-Obama-latest-news-vn

a reply to: CrazyFox

This one was posted in earlier thread if you have not seen.
DIE GLOCKE - Nazi Bell
www.youtube.com...

Back when I was researching the 'Bell' I came across this guy via Walter Bosley.

Visionary artist Charles A.A. Dellschau painted the Trump Train 4599 in circa 1890s.



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According to Dellschau’s paintings a German National name [Homer] ‘Trump’ was an influential member of the Sonora Aero Club. He was so influential, his German Club members, named one style of their mid-1850s airship the ‘Aero Trump’.

Haven't found any solid connections to a Trump other than Donald Trump's grandfather Friedrich Trump emmigrated to the US from Germany in 1885.

www.charlesdellschau.com...
Charles A.A. Dellshau

Writer, Walter Bosley (former Air Force OSI) uncovers the covert German Industrial Group called "NYMZA" in revealing the enigmatic figure known as Charles Dellschau, a German immigrant to Texas in 1850 whose esoteric artwork and diaries were uncovered years after his death. In the paintings and recollections he recounts the activities of the 19th century Sonora Aero Club and according to Dellschau they had these functional flying machines (Aero's) in the 1850s (some 50 years before the Wright brothers); which he was sent by a Prussian officer as an observer by the mysterious group called NYMZA based in Germany.
Really fascinating story on Dellschau including the mystery "Bell" (torsion physics?, ~70 years before the Nazi's got it!) with an odd JFK connection starting around the 1 hr mark.
www.youtube.com...

Walter Bosley | Trump, Tesla, Secret Spaceships & NYMZA

According to Bosley's research the name "NYMZA" is a transliterated spelling into English of the pronunciation which he believes the correct spelling is "NJMZA" a German acronym. Translated from German (1850s) to English corresponds to the "Nationalists Exploration Airship Office" -- an original private military industrial organization made up of German philosopher scientists and engineers.

Friedrich Wannieck, spiritualist, pioneer of Germanic mysticism and runic revivalist and Baron Dr. Carl (Karl) Ludwig von Reichenbach were NYMZA members. He's known for the "Odic Force" or life force, he coined the name from that of the Norse god Odin in 1845. Check him out.

Other members were Carl Kellner (mystic) who was a student of Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism, and Eastern mysticism. He was the putative founder of Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.).

Walther Rathenau was a German industrialist, writer and liberal politician, later assassinated. He was on the company AEG (Allgemeine Elektrizitäts-Gesellschaft, an electrical engineering company) board which was the same company directly connected to the "Bell" prior to the Nazis rise to power and the story goes became one of the first Nazi black projects.

Solomon Andrews an inventor contacted Abe Lincoln in 1863 and told him he had this technology, a flying machine. Fascinated, Lincoln told Edwin Stanton his War Secretary to have the War Dept guys take a look at this and in 1864 Solomon Andrews demonstrated this flying machine in Washington DC amongst witnesses and was even reported in a newspaper in 1864. After the War, Congress ordered the War Dept to acquire this technology. A running theory is this development went secret (private corporation) and is what led to those 1890s Airship sightings, ultimately leading to the Nazi's acquiring & further developing (the "Bell") and after WWII led to the origins of the US secret space program (Nazi scientists assisting) in 1947 which includes the Roswell incident.

Malian military just took over Mali.

north-africa.com...

twitter.com...

Translation:

"hope crushed by the putschists: Arrest of the president of the transition Bah Ndaw, of the prime minister Moctar Ouane and of the new defense minister a few hours after the proclamation of the new Ouane 2 government"

originally posted by: Caled
Response; he is not a believer and does not want to hurt believers dreams.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: SkipperJohn

Trump was just on the Dan Bongino Radio Show.

"Is there something the government is not telling us about this UFO thing?"

twitter.com...

That's hard to believe. Sounds too much like a politician.

This is the kind of cognitive dissonance that is really bothering me. Kind of like how President Trump is talking about holding rallies. If we continue down this path, these rallies are irrelevant. Something is wrong.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Caled
Response; he is not a believer and does not want to hurt believers dreams.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: SkipperJohn

Trump was just on the Dan Bongino Radio Show.

"Is there something the government is not telling us about this UFO thing?"

twitter.com...

That's hard to believe. Sounds too much like a politician.

It's a start but how far have they explored. At this point after all that has been discussed here, what is going on in the world, all the deliberate misinformation since at least the run up to WWI (most likely longer,) I am questioning everything. Saw something on the breakaway civilization being the 35 continents past the Ice wall last night, in short I am having conspircay overload lol.
a reply to: FlyingFox

a reply to: Caled

President Trump needs to start talking like someone who had access to the nation's most sensitive materials and intelligence.

Mike pompeo did a bit of it when he related what happened at the Wuhan China laboratory.

But president Trump is returning to his same old America will never be a socialist country spiel.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

I can't quote sources, but I can remember reading about airships being seen out west post-civil war. Granted they were more dirigibles than an airplane. Could it mean our R&D has been ahead of the curve longer than we suspect? Considering the slow flow of information back then it would be simpler to keep advancements out of the public awareness. Now we suffer from information being too quick and lose the narrative.

Those colors hurt my eyes lol Trump Train. I see at the bottom Houston Texas April 26th 192? A face in the window under the T R, and does the conductor look familiar? From the other painting I see Jan 26th 1920 but after comparing them it appears to be the artist signature oh well I did not find anything on those dates yet.

You have given me plenty to dive into but as in my reply to the another fox I am at the point of conspiracy overload. Going to put my new mower together to relax
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

I can't quote sources, but I can remember reading about airships being seen out west post-civil war. Granted they were more dirigibles than an airplane. Could it mean our R&D has been ahead of the curve longer than we suspect? Considering the slow flow of information back then it would be simpler to keep advancements out of the public awareness. Now we suffer from information being too quick and lose the narrative.

Post Civil War
Aurora, Texas, 1897

a reply to: PokeyJoe

The burden of proof is on the party making the extraordinary claims.

a reply to: MetalThunder

Not what I was referring to. As I recall it was an airship crewed by humans and more like a dirigible than a flying saucer. The idea of unknown terrestrial origin. Our early years top secret research if you will.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
a reply to: PokeyJoe

The burden of proof is on the party making the extraordinary claims.

Nobody but you (or the other user I was initially speaking to) made any claims at all is the point. That works both ways. If you make an affirmative claim, you have the burden of proof.

Saying "there are no aliens" requires evidence just as saying "there are aliens" does. Good grief. This is silly. I never even said these things were piloted by aliens to begin with. I've said explicitly right here in this thread that I believe these UFOs are ours.

originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: MetalThunder

Not what I was referring to. As I recall it was an airship crewed by humans and more like a dirigible than a flying saucer. The idea of unknown terrestrial origin. Our early years top secret research if you will.

Most of the pre-1900 UFO reports I've read described objects similar to a zeppelin. The occupants tended to look just like us, but would wear sorta strang uniforms and sometimes claim to come from Venus.

originally posted by: hangedman13
a reply to: MetalThunder

Not what I was referring to. As I recall it was an airship crewed by humans and more like a dirigible than a flying saucer. The idea of unknown terrestrial origin. Our early years top secret research if you will.

Better now ? - but not quite ???

AIRSHIPS IN THE 1800S: AN ODD HISTORY OF AERIAL PHENOMENA

The big question remains as follows: did the technology to build airships like this even exist in the 1890s? Interestingly, yes, some technology on par with the airships did exist, and in fact, record of a few crude attempts to build such things dates back even further, to around a half century before the reports of aircraft began to appear in the San Francisco area.

Even before hopeful aviators in Europe began constructing their versions of primitive airships in the 1870s, inventor Solomon Andrews had begun pursuing ways to fund the construction of an airship here in the United States. One design he had created dates back as early as 1847, for which he was unsuccessful in gaining financial support to build. However, his project resurfaced again in the 1860s, as discussed in this excerpt from a Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery News piece:

While serving with the Union army in 1862, Andrews became convinced that a navigable, lighter-than-air craft would prove vastly superior to the tethered balloons that were used for military reconnaissance. He resigned his commission and, at his own expense, began constructing the world’s first self-propelled, steerable airship. Comprising three cigar-shaped balloons, a rudder, and an operator’s car equipped with moveable weights, the Aereon made its maiden flight on June 1, 1863. Employing the same principle that enables a sailboat to sail into the wind, Andrews demonstrated the Aereon’s ability to travel in any direction as he circled his craft above an incredulous crowd.

Encouraged by success of his prototype, Andrews began an energetic campaign to interest federal officials in the airship the New York Herald called “the most extraordinary invention of the age.” He secured an audience with President Lincoln, petitioned Congress, and even flew a model of the Aereon in the Great Hall of the Smithsonian “Castle” for members of a special scientific commission that included Smithsonian Secretary Joseph Henry. Andrews’s efforts were unrewarded, however, for the Aereon failed to secure government backing.....

Parents Are Furious Over Elite New York Prep School’s ‘Outrageous’ Pornography Training

Columbia Grammar & Preparatory School on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, an institution with a price tag of about $47,000 for the highest grade offered, held a sexuality workshop for all students in the junior class. Parents were not made aware of the training, and students were misinformed about the explicit content.

One student told the New York Post he thought it was “just going to be about condoms or birth control.” On the contrary, the training was called “Pornography Literacy: An intersectional focus on mainstream porn.” It was taught by Justine Ang Fonte, the director of health and wellness at The Dalton School nearby.

Columbia Prep has alumni ranging from CNN analyst Jeffrey Toobin to author Herman Melville, former Time Warner CEO Steve Ross, and former President Donald Trump’s son Barron. Anonymous parents launched an Instagram account titled “SpeakUpCGPS” last Friday to expose the school’s social justice activism.

Dalton? This is the school where Bill Barr's dad was headmaster and gave Epstein a teaching job.

Alex, I'll take "waterboard electro" for $1,000.😂 Unreal!