Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

a reply to: xuenchen
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Please contribute to an already existing thread.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea

I have to ask.

How many times must votes be certified?

Trumpsters refused to accept our democratic process and certified election.

So, Yes — Canuck is right.

That's not the question.

Should those votes have been certified is the question.

For all the complaining about Trump supporters who won't accept defeat, there are an awful lot of people who won't admit the possibility/probability of election fraud either. We shouldn't even have to be having this discussion... much less argument.

And "both sides" are ignoring the many many people who are not Team Biden nor Team Trump and just freaking want election integrity confirmed! We're citizens too. Our voice and our rights matter too.

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The Data Drives Deleted by the Maricopa County Included Adjudicated Files (Where Votes Were Changed)

Grrrrrrr.... it's been those adjudicated ballots that have set my spidey senses tingling since the election. I know I've been like a broken record about it. But too much is just not right there.

We shouldn't have adjudicated ballots at all.

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Irishhaf

The reality is — the only reason this audit is happening is — because butt hurt Trumpsters refuse to accept what was a legitimate and certified election.

That is the bottom line.

I never voted trump and I want an audit... why because some people asked legitimate questions (yes a lot of stupid was thrown out there as well) and instead of answering the legitimate questions, they said trust me all is well.

I am glad you have such faith in the federal govt, my life experiences have taught me the more they say its under control the less it is.

a reply to: Boadicea

Umm I thought all that information was supposed to stay untouched for a time after elections??

ETA: Its stuff like this that are pushing me into conspiracy land... WHY on earth would you delete the data unless you were hiding something.

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Boadicea

I have to ask.

How many times must votes be certified?

Trumpsters refused to accept our democratic process and certified election.

So, Yes — Canuck is right.

That's not the question.

Should those votes have been certified is the question.

Who is saying they shouldn’t have and for what reason?

If Trump had won AZ would we be having this audit?

You know damn well we wouldn’t.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: xuenchen
Not scared. Threads on just about every subject already exist on ATS, why add another?

Please contribute to an already existing thread.

Excuses Excuses

Just like a Republic infiltrated by a mob rule Democracy 😮

a reply to: daskakik

No, I'm pointing out that the democratic element in your system takes the voice of the individual, which they would have in a direct democracy, and places it in the hands of a few, who then violate that trust.

Well, that's part of the truth. But the votes are proportional, hence the electoral college and the House of Representative, in order to prevent any one group dominating our politics.

But if our elections are not fair and honest, then we don't have either a Republic or a Democracy... we have tyrants.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Boadicea

Umm I thought all that information was supposed to stay untouched for a time after elections??

And you thought right. Two years as I understand it.

ETA: Its stuff like this that are pushing me into conspiracy land... WHY on earth would you delete the data unless you were hiding something.

Conspiracy theories are only theories until proven or disproven.

It's hard to prove without the evidence though. As the guilty well know.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Excuses Excuses

Call it whatever you want, makes no difference.

Just like a Republic infiltrated by a mob rule Democracy 😮

Not sure how that would be an excuse for anything but ok.

a reply to: Annee

Who is saying they shouldn’t have and for what reason?

Everyone who suspects wrongdoing and wants the election audited.

If Trump had won AZ would we be having this audit?

If Biden supporters thought Trump had stolen the election, would they NOT want an audit?

You know damn well we wouldn’t.

I don't know that. If Trump had won under the same circumstances and conditions, I damn well would have wanted an audit. I think plenty of people would have wanted an audit. Would we have gotten it? I don't know.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Irishhaf

The reality is — the only reason this audit is happening is — because butt hurt Trumpsters refuse to accept what was a legitimate and certified election.

That is the bottom line.

Appearantly the Senate of the State of Arizona are "butt hurt Trumpsters"; as this event was authorized by the representatives of the people of the State of Arizona.
Interesting way to describe ones state senate.

It’s a Republican senate — and you know it.

I’m really over the mental gymnastics

Everyone knows what fueled this audit.

It is what it is.

I would hope everyone would agree,questioning and verifying election results in a democracy is a way to gain faith and integrity in our election process.

To have citizens not confident in our elections,would only futher divide us,imho.

If the audit shows everything was on the up and up,it would go a long way in accepting who was elected.

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+1 star

LIVE NOW: AZ Rep. Jake Hoffman Gives Update about MARICOPA AUDIT

originally posted by: crazyeddie68

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Irishhaf

The reality is — the only reason this audit is happening is — because butt hurt Trumpsters refuse to accept what was a legitimate and certified election.

That is the bottom line.

Appearantly the Senate of the State of Arizona are "butt hurt Trumpsters"; as this event was authorized by the representatives of the people of the State of Arizona.
Interesting way to describe ones state senate.

It’s a Republican senate — and you know it.

I’m really over the mental gymnastics

Everyone knows what fueled this audit.

It is what it is.

I would hope everyone would agree,questioning and verifying election results in a democracy is a way to gain faith and integrity in our election process.

To have citizens not confident in our elections,would only futher divide us,imho.

If the audit shows everything was on the up and up,it would go a long way in accepting who was elected.

One way to see truth is to reverse a situation.

Reverse this situation.

Be 100% honest on your thoughts.

a reply to: Annee

Yes, people can step back and look at things honestly like with Matt Gaetz. He may wind up getting away with it, BUT more likely than not he was sleeping with an underage girl, I would love to sucker bet someone who says otherwise. I have seen several Righty sites who dont wont to acknowledge this(Revolver), but not everyone.

Its crystal clear there was massive cheating in this election.

a reply to: Annee

I don't believe you could have if you haven't considered democrats wanting an audit if the sitiation were reverse.

Have you looked at any of the info presented in this thread about inconsistencies with not giving over or not having the passworss to their own election?

Do you disbelieve that or do you really have no questions about it?

When you look up someones background, do you get it from them or a third party? Do you check to see if the third party has any bias?

You question gab post after having just posted a comment about an article you displayed as proof.

You are not being objective, but expect it out of others.

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Kelli Ward thinks she has the votes for legal action, they have a few squishy republicans who could derail that.

Wondering if they are talking about pleading the 5th this afternoon.

All those AGs who signed on to the Supreme Court case, Goverenors, and Senate/House Rs need to start speaking up.

Well, the biggest local paper, the AZ Republic (AZ Central) has picked it up:

Arizona Senate delays subpoena threat and asks Maricopa County officials to respons to election audit concerns

It's behind a paywall that I refuse to pay (it's only $1 per 6 months -- LOL!), but this is the blurb showing in the search results:

Arizona Senate raised concerns over Maricopa County routers, passwords, ballots and deleted files, but county says it's mostly a misunderstanding.

So why all the drama then? Why call them "accusations" when you called the Emergency Meeting? Why the Emergency Meeting at all? Why not just meet with the Senate -- as invited -- and correct the misunderstanding?

We The People would like to know about these misunderstandings too.

What are we misunderstanding about the wiped databases?

What are we misunderstanding about the passwords you claim not to have?

What are we misunderstanding about the routers you refuse to turn over?

What are we misunderstanding about those digital devices that were taken off-site by unknown persons to unknown locations?