Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
how could you know this?

Because I don't have a dog in this race and can look at all the other similar scenarios where fraud was claimed this election and compare the f*** all they found in those to the same thing they'll find in this one.

You do realize that Arizona is the first state to actually look at the ballots, right?

Doesn't that mean that all that other stuff is just completely made up?

Of course it does.


Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
is a recount and forensic audit the same?

Will the results be any different? I already know the answer.

how could you know this?

He has special stonecutter powers.
They all get a special shiny ring.
Lol

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Why would they? It isn't going to show anything different. Trump lost, bro, it's a fact.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
The state senate is responsible for the audit.

Which needs to be brought to the floor by the Senate President. What was that about learning civics?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So nobody should be allowed an audit.

Did I say it shouldn't be allowed? I said, once again, that it's pointless and it isn't the altruistic affair that it's being positioned to be by the proponents. It's solely because Trump lost and can't accept it so his sycophants, both out in Arizona and here in this thread also can't accept reality.

Absolutely!

Or maybe not willing to accept your invented reality.

The one where you know there was no fraud because the tv said so. Or 538.



I prefer to live in actual reality.

Where NOBODY can know if fraud was committed without looking at the ballots.



Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
You do realize that Arizona is the first state to actually look at the ballots, right?

I hope they find the bamboo, which, when you think about things, would be the more likely thing they'd find between that and wide spread fraud.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So back to audit being a fraud because Trump also wants one?

I didn't day it was a fraud, I said it was a waste and it shows the true reason for it. How many more times you need this repeated?

Because you think Republicans in Arizona are wasting their resources?

The Independents swing AZ - not the Republicans.

The independents in AZ take being independent seriously.

They are the reason Trump lost.

And the independents put the people into the state senate, who enacted the audit.
Samey same.
Funny how one part is bad and one part is good.
Lol

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Why would they? It isn't going to show anything different. Trump lost, bro, it's a fact.

Thank you for your opinion.

Apparently its important to you that everyone agrees with you without hesitation.

A stone cutting tyrant I guess.

I prefer to wait for audit results.

Instead of just making stuff up like a stone cutter.




Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
The state senate is responsible for the audit.

Which needs to be brought to the floor by the Senate President. What was that about learning civics?

Without the senate vote no audit.
You spin is still poo.

All those swing independent voters put those senators there.
Its good when the will of the people is enacted, no?
Government transparency is good, no?

I am shocked you are against such.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
The state senate is responsible for the audit.

Which needs to be brought to the floor by the Senate President. What was that about learning civics?

Are you now trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized now?

Still just making stuff up as you go?




Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
how could you know this?

Because I don't have a dog in this race and can look at all the other similar scenarios where fraud was claimed this election and compare the f*** all they found in those to the same thing they'll find in this one.

you may want to rephrase that before you get struck by lightning. You have more bias against Trump than most Trump haters I have ever seen. But that isn't even a factor in the reality of this. Even if Trump begged for this audit, it doesn't change the facts that will come from looking into all this.

The first time in history we have a global pandemic that shuts down the world, and we have an election, and must mail out ballots to every household in the state, then we need to relax the guidelines for protection due to covid. Oh and couple that with BAMN hatred of Trump sofaking bad that normal people act like idiots over Trump and would do anything to remove him.

If that isn't at least a questionable atmosphere, you aren't being honest with yourself.

Trump isn't coming back, likely not even in 2024. Ron Desantis will likely be the RNC choice. But rather than double down on the shady parts of this past election, some of us want to find out if our suspicions were right. maybe this was the most secure election in history. But I'm not just going to take the word of those who won and don't want anyone looking at how they did it. I think a transparent investigation looking PRIMARILY at the mail in ballots and verifying they were all good is not just a good idea, but essential to trust in future elections. And it seems the majority of Americans feel the same way.

I doubt you will be toning down your empirical statements anytime soon on this, and at this point, that would seem disingenuous. But you painted yourself into this corner while the rest of us are just wanting answers. Just try not to look too surprised should the spotlight shows you and your paintbrush on the wrong side of the truth.

I don't love you any less, but I think you are very wrong on this. I don't claim there was fraud, but I do claim that it looks way too damn fishy. I want a better look and this is it. That is all.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
You do realize that Arizona is the first state to actually look at the ballots, right?

I hope they find the bamboo, which, when you think about things, would be the more likely thing they'd find between that and wide spread fraud.

So you support the audit now?

As long as they find bamboo?

Is that like the Italian con job?

Yeah, that projection attempt didn't work either.




Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
is a recount and forensic audit the same?

Will the results be any different? I already know the answer.

how could you know this?

He has special stonecutter powers.
They all get a special shiny ring.
Lol

He and I cut on the same rough ashlar, and wear the same symbols. I think he's wrong, but not because of what groups he is a part of.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Annee

Thank you for sharing that again.

It is still the opinion of a bunch of leftist 'journalists', on behalf of the democrat party.

Oh, the horrors.

I used 538 as a source.

Instead of: WND, Newsmax, Pajamas Media, FOX, The Federalist, Gateway Pundit, etc

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: network dude
Because I don't have a dog in this race and can look at all the other similar scenarios where fraud was claimed this election and compare the f*** all they found in those to the same thing they'll find in this one.

Except this is the first actual full forensic audit that has ever been done at this level - EVER.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
is a recount and forensic audit the same?

Will the results be any different? I already know the answer.

how could you know this?

He has special stonecutter powers.
They all get a special shiny ring.
Lol

He and I cut on the same rough ashlar, and wear the same symbols. I think he's wrong, but not because of what groups he is a part of.

So it would not grant him the precognitive powers he has claimed on this thread?

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So back to audit being a fraud because Trump also wants one?

I didn't day it was a fraud, I said it was a waste and it shows the true reason for it. How many more times you need this repeated?

Because you think Republicans in Arizona are wasting their resources?

The Independents swing AZ - not the Republicans.

The independents in AZ take being independent seriously.

They are the reason Trump lost.

And the independents put the people into the state senate, who enacted the audit.
Samey same.
Funny how one part is bad and one part is good.
Lol

This is one I want to look back on 10 years from now.

I don't expect it to fair well.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: network dude
Because I don't have a dog in this race and can look at all the other similar scenarios where fraud was claimed this election and compare the f*** all they found in those to the same thing they'll find in this one.

Except this is the first actual full forensic audit that has ever been done at this level - EVER.

Because . . . Trump

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: Annee

Thank you for sharing that again.

It is still the opinion of a bunch of leftist 'journalists', on behalf of the democrat party.

Oh, the horrors.

I used 538 as a source.

Instead of: WND, Newsmax, Pajamas Media, FOX, The Federalist, Gateway Pundit, etc

You posted an opinion piece from a highly biased source such as the ones you listed.

538 goes even farther as it was founded by activists, in order to better activist.

But I would probably accept a factual article from them, unless filled with anonymous sources.

You know like the ones frequently posted here that quote actual people, or report something that has actually happened.




This one is an opinion article.

Maybe look up the difference.

It means the authors admit that they are just making stuff up.




The other type attempts to report facts, and specify sources.

(Though many fail at this nowadays)



Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
The state senate is responsible for the audit.

Which needs to be brought to the floor by the Senate President. What was that about learning civics?

Are you saying the senate president is the only state legislature member that can submit legislation?

You know that is incorrect, right?