Finally! Forensic Election Audit in Maricopa County (AZ) Begins Next Week

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Without the senate vote no audit.

No vote without it being brought to the floor. Civics 101.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are you now trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized now?

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? If you're going to interject yourself with pathological multi-post quoting try to follow the conversation I was having with the other poster so you can adequately reply.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Except this is the first actual full forensic audit that has ever been done at this level - EVER.

That's nice. When 2000 and never rolls around I'm sure they'll find all those votes to change things.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Are you saying the senate president is the only state legislature member that can submit legislation?

They're the only one that can bring it to the floor for a vote. Civics 101.

originally posted by: Boadicea
In the end, they will either prove fraud or they won't. If they do not/cannot prove fraud, and their examination is as thorough as it seems, then the public has to accept the outcome for what it is.

Look at the rabid behavior in this thread, do you think that will happen?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Without the senate vote no audit.

No vote without it being brought to the floor. Civics 101.

Are you again trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized by AZ Senate?

According to laws of Arizona?

Or that every detail wasn't approved by an AZ court?

And then again after democrat's dirty trick to force judge change?



Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
In the end, they will either prove fraud or they won't. If they do not/cannot prove fraud, and their examination is as thorough as it seems, then the public has to accept the outcome for what it is.

Look at the rabid behavior in this thread, do you think that will happen?

So anyone questioning the things you make up and post here as fact is now 'rabid'?



Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are you again trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized by AZ Senate?

That's not what I'm saying.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are you again trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized by AZ Senate?

That's not what I'm saying.

So, now that you agree that the Arizona Audit was properly authorized by the legislature, and approved by a judge, why such effort to smear as biased and pointless effort?

I know:


Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
you may want to rephrase that before you get struck by lightning.

Nope not toning it down. I was just as critical of the Hillary clowns when they felt they got hosed by the Electoral College and whatever weak ass excuses they were making.

Now it's Trump's fan bois' turn.

If there isn't enough fraud to make any difference, but there still is fraud, I would like for it to be recognized and if possible, stopped from happening again. But I'm old fashioned like that.

But then, I'm not making empirical statements of fact over what hasn't been found yet. I'll wait for results to make my mind up.

I'm half joking when I ask if you prepared yourself for the possibility of being wrong, but then, I know you well enough on here to know you haven't and likely won't. That would be a difficult albatross to wear.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Are you now trying to claim that the AZ Audit wasn't properly authorized now?

Do you have a reading comprehension issue? If you're going to interject yourself with pathological multi-post quoting try to follow the conversation I was having with the other poster so you can adequately reply.

How angry.

And fascist.

I will respond to any post that I want to.


And yes, you have been saying exactly that by claiming that Fann 'colluded' with Trump, along with many other absurd arguments intended to smear audit effort as anything other than a search for the facts.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Look at the rabid behavior in this thread, do you think that will happen?

Yes, actually, I do. At least for the most part. There will always be some holdouts.

Right here and right now, the audit itself is the main event. But time will very soon become a factor, and the priority will have to be legislative reform before the next election.

People will have all kinds of opinions about the audit, and the results of the audit, and those who performed the audits, etc. But ultimately, the goal has to be fixing what's broken. Even for those who just want to get Trump back in the White House. Beating a dead horse doesn't help. At some point even they will have to accept their losses and focus their energy on the future.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: tanstaafl
Except this is the first actual full forensic audit that has ever been done at this level - EVER.

That's nice. When 2000 and never rolls around I'm sure they'll find all those votes to change things.

Back to attempting a funny.

With a generic smear attempt tagging along?


Are democrats afraid of what audit might show?

Or just fascists enraged because some people refuse to automatically accept their 'truth' as fact?

Why else fight so hard against checking to see if the ballots match the results?

originally posted by: network dude
If there isn't enough fraud to make any difference, but there still is fraud, I would like for it to be recognized and if possible, stopped from happening again. But I'm old fashioned like that.

That's all well and good but it's a rather pollyanna-ish approach. So long as there are people involved there will always be some sort of fraud committed. I'm not disputing that there is, what I'm saying, again, is that it's never been enough to be appreciable and it certainly won't change this election more than the tiniest fraction of a percent.

I'm half joking when I ask if you prepared yourself for the possibility of being wrong, but then, I know you well enough on here to know you haven't and likely won't.

You've been here as long as me, you ever see my make a knowingly false statement? You ever see me jump into something when I wasn't certain?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Without the senate vote no audit.

No vote without it being brought to the floor. Civics 101.

Half ass going to attempt to half ass....
Nope
Enough of your bs.
Any Arizona legislature member can propose legislation.
Your "president " claim is crap, as are most of your posts in this thread.
This audit is enacted by the senate of the state of Arizona.

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originally posted by: Boadicea
Yes, actually, I do. At least for the most part. There will always be some holdouts.

Some? When 70% of Republicans think Trump 'got cheated' you think they'll all of a sudden go, "Oh, yeah, I was soooooo wrong about that...."?

I will bet you right now when, not if, the Arizona fiasco is over and no widespread fraud is proven that they'll be telling you that it was done wrong and if we can only do it another time, say in Michigan, we'll prove it for real.

a reply to: network dude

If there isn't enough fraud to make any difference, but there still is fraud, I would like for it to be recognized and if possible, stopped from happening again. But I'm old fashioned like that.

Yeah, I'm another old stick in the mud that way!

I've brought up the adjudicated ballots many many times. I have no idea if any fraudulent votes resulted from those adjudicated ballots, but I sure as hell know the potential is there. Even potential is too much.

If fraud is minimal or is not found at all, great!!! (And I realize that is a possibility if only because some of these critters are dumber than rocks! Even if the will is there, the brains aren't.)

But we still need to fix what's broken... what could be exploited and manipulated and contorted into outright fraud.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
If there isn't enough fraud to make any difference, but there still is fraud, I would like for it to be recognized and if possible, stopped from happening again. But I'm old fashioned like that.

That's all well and good but it's a rather pollyanna-ish approach. So long as there are people involved there will always be some sort of fraud committed. I'm not disputing that there is, what I'm saying, again, is that it's never been enough to be appreciable and it certainly won't change this election more than the tiniest fraction of a percent.

I'm half joking when I ask if you prepared yourself for the possibility of being wrong, but then, I know you well enough on here to know you haven't and likely won't.

You've been here as long as me, you ever see my make a knowingly false statement? You ever see me jump into something when I wasn't certain?

Please tell us about the democrat's russia hoax.

And then try to claim any kind of credibility on the democrat's latest efforts to prevent audits by any means necessary.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
Any Arizona legislature member can propose legislation.

Of course they can, they just can't bring it to the floor for a vote. Guess who does that?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
In the end, they will either prove fraud or they won't. If they do not/cannot prove fraud, and their examination is as thorough as it seems, then the public has to accept the outcome for what it is.

Look at the rabid behavior in this thread, do you think that will happen?

Much of which is yours.
Too funny