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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: IndieA
I know that Karen Fann's email were released due to a freedom of information request, but show us where in them she collaborated with Trump or his team, or please take your delusions and childishness elsewhere.
Here's one: "I have been in numerous conversations with Rudy Giuliani over the past weeks. Trying to get this done."
Go read the emails if you want more, it's not my job to spoon feed the lazy.
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So because Trump also wants audits, they are now a bad thing?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
Before results are known?
I don't need to be clairvoyant to predict the results, just like I didn't to call all four of the Georgia ones.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So because Trump also wants audits, they are now a bad thing?
I said pointless. Widespread voter fraud is not a thing in the United States.
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So obviously all audits are a waste of time then?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So obviously all audits are a waste of time then?
Just ones that think they are going to find wide spread voter fraud.
originally posted by: Boadicea
Remember the stories about foreign internet connections and switching votes from Trump to Biden? Well it may not be what it seems:
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: ‘The Italian Job’ Unfolds and Behind It Are Trump Haters and RINOs
2020 Election Fraud & The Italian Connection
Imagine this: Data from the 2020 elections were being sent to a US embassy in Italy in real-time, where a State Dept. official – along with agents from the MI6, CIA, and an aerospace defense contractor – took the data, analyzed it, changed it, then resent it back to the U.S. using military satellites owned by that same aerospace contractor – Leonardo. The next thing you know, Biden wins.
Sounds out-there, but there might be truth to this madness.......
Bradley Johnson Retired CIA talks about Italygate
......a lot of BS rumors about Gina Haspel getting in shootouts and all that. That’s nonsense. None of that happened. Were the servers looked at? Yeah I think those servers were looked at, but no raid… but from there, those were uploaded and sent to Rome – and this is where this took place. Now, what’s being said out of Rome, out of Italy, is that this was done in the u.s embassy. That there was a certain State Department guy whose name I don’t know, yet. I guess this is probably going to come out in Italy at some point – and he was the mastermind, not the mastermind but… the guy running the operation of changing the votes – and that he was doing this in conjunction with some support from MI6, the CIA and this Leonardo group… so these guys are the ones… looking at all the raw data, they’re the ones that said ‘shut down’ all those five states or six states at the exact same time – and the problem was that the algorithms were overloaded that what they had planned on didn’t work because Trump got so many votes… everybody voted for Trump, and so that skewed all of the algorithms. So what they had planned just didn’t work. That’s why everything had to be shut down. So they upload all of this stuff – it gives them time to analyze all of this and create new analogs that then would allow the vote to come out in favor of Biden and once they created all the new data – and manipulated all the data that was there – they sent these new numbers back up through this military satellite – Italian military satellite – run and operated by none other than Leonardo – and this was an encrypted satellite that then went back down through those servers and back down to all the machines here in the United States in those five or six states….......
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: shooterbrody
It is about transparency, no matter how you try to spin it.
Which is why it took a FOIA to get the emails with Trump requesting an audit from the Arizona Senate President. Ironic, all that transparency from some whiner who thought he got cheated.
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So you would be ok with AZ Audit continuing if only they would announce that they don't expect to find any wide spread voter fraud?
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Most here are looking for transparency from ALL government.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Nunyabizisit
So you would be ok with AZ Audit continuing if only they would announce that they don't expect to find any wide spread voter fraud?
It's Arizona's money to waste, they can run this thing into 2050 for all I care, my point is it's pointless, it won't change anything or find anything of consequence because it started with a very faulty premise.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Yeah, you know better than the people of the state of Arizona, right?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Most here are looking for transparency from ALL government.
No they aren't, that's what they started telling themselves to either try to distance this charade from the Q LARP'ers or to pretend it isn't about Trump losing when it's either one or both of the above. None of you are altruistic.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: Boadicea
FEY (for everyone's information -- just made that up!)
Shouldn't that be FEI?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Yeah, you know better than the people of the state of Arizona, right?
I know better than the politicians of Arizona and former President Donald J. Trump.
The Democratic Party line treats voter fraud as little more than a GOP fever dream — yet the party’s presidential candidate Joe Biden spent decades of his career sounding the alarm about it.
Biden, the Democratic standard bearer, consistently shared GOP concerns about voter fraud during his 36 years as a United States senator from Delaware.
....In 1988 — the same year his son’s drug record was being expunged — Biden introduced the “Anti-Corruption Act,” which McConnell co-sponsored. The bill would have enacted penalties for anyone who deprived anyone of “a fair and impartially conducted election process through the use of fraudulent ballots or voter registration forms or the filing of fraudulent campaign reports.”
Biden and McConnell tried again in 1989. Sen. Strom Thurmond was also a co-sponsor of the bill.
“Current law does not permit prosecution of election fraud … This bill makes it a federal offense to corrupt any state or local election process,” Biden argued on the Senate floor. McConnell noted in his own floor assessment that it would “raise the maximum penalty for both election fraud and public corruption to 10 years in federal prison and a $10,000 fine.”
The 1989 version also died as a standalone bill. Undeterred, Biden tried to shoehorn the voter fraud elements into the Federal Crime Control Act, in 1989 and the National Drug Control Strategy Act of 1990 — they went nowhere.
When Biden introduced the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1993, McConnell — his faithful partner on the effort — snuck in voter fraud provisions as an amendment. But the bill died.
McConnell introduced the act on his own in 1995 without Biden’s participation — it died again.
By the time he served as vice president to Barack Obama, Biden had fully, and publicly, abandoned his former views.
“Why, without any proof of voter fraud, have 81 bills been introduced in state legislative bodies … to make it harder for people to vote,” Biden asked an audience at South Carolina’s Allen University in 2014.
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: ATruGod
This is pretty disturbing. Hell how is it even legal aren't Our elections supposed to be transparent?
It is very disturbing and I have no idea how the hell anyone thought this should be legal. Our elections should be transparent -- like a glass house!
I think these are the fundamental issues we should be addressing directly. It's about sooooooo much more than just Biden and Trump. Neither of them may even still be here by the next election -- but these corrupt laws will be if we do not stop it.
None of you are altruistic.