Do yourselves a favor; take off your masks and breath!

a reply to: fencesitter85


Don't worry, the way the new regime under Uncle Joe is acting, it won't be long before they take a page out historical San Francisco's book and summarily shoot people on site for not having one.

Then you can feel morally superior.

originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: iammrhappy86

Masks do next to nothing. The new cases are largely flase positives and flu cases have been attributed to Covid deaths. And now Hank Aaron gets the vaccine and dies two weeks later. Wake up, we're being scammed. Usurper Joe didn't win the election he stole it.

So do you have any sources to back these claims up or is it just more useless conjecture on your part?

originally posted by: jjkenobi
a reply to: AaarghZombies

So you still think masks and social distance will kill covid? Interesting.

yes. Just ask anyone inMelbourne. And pleade do so before you pass it on to others.

originally posted by: marg6043
For some reason mask remind me of the oppressed women from the middle east that have to be shame into hiding their faces or be stone to dead under sharia law.

It really is a trick to get everyone under sharia law, I have thought same

originally posted by: THeGreaTZoiD

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Brotherman

No.
But apparently social distancing and masks help prevent the spread of influenza quite well, which makes sense. Also the rate of vaccination for flu was up last year, that might play a role too.

It does work i can confirm it...im in a small community in the Canadian artic and only accessible by plane with no more than 2000 souls and everyone took it seriously and practice social distancing and wear there mask... in 1 year we dint have a single case of common cold or influenza(flu) not one usually i get at least 2 to 3 case of cold myself per year...

So social distancing combine with a mask work...

Who says its a good thing have no influenza at all

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

a reply to: iammrhappy86

It is dumbfounding why anyone is still wearing a face diaper. Absolutely ludicrous.

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

You might not know it, but doctors and nurses wear masks in the operating room to protect the patient from any bacteria or other germs they may expel from their mouths and noses.

That is, they do not wear those masks to protect themselves from stray virus.

originally posted by: ClassicalKC
a reply to: iammrhappy86

It is dumbfounding why anyone is still wearing a face diaper. Absolutely ludicrous.

Many humans are pretty dumb, especially when they are scared silly about a flu virus.

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

No they haven't silly-willy !

A low percentage of docs will wear a mask for surgery, possibly infectious patients, or in emergency ops.
And only for a few minutes at a time, then off with the nappie for the rest of the day.

'Decades'...

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

No they haven't silly-willy !

A low percentage of docs will wear a mask for surgery, possibly infectious patients, or in emergency ops.
And only for a few minutes at a time, then off with the nappie for the rest of the day.

'Decades'...

That is total BS and since you appear to be smart enough to breathe in and out, I imagine you know that this comment is BS - which makes you a troll.

100% of Docs (and the entire operating theater staff) DO wear masks for surgery - and not because of infectious patients.

They wear masks so as not to infect the patients.

And yes, 'decades' - maybe even a century.

Check out the Operating Theater fashions during the Korean Police Action (which was decades ago):

never worn one, not about to start anytime.

originally posted by: Nothin
And only for a few minutes at a time

According to this, in this particular public university hospital 80% of operations averaged 3 hours and 15 minutes.

The study measured 8,337 operations of 12 surgical specialties performed within one year. The overall mean duration of anesthesia of all specialties was 178.12±110.46 minutes, and the 80th percentile was 252 minutes. The mean operative time was 130.45±97.23 minutes, and the 80th percentile was 195 minutes.

Also, 8,337 is almost 23 surgeries per day. That is a lot of people wearing masks for more than just a few minutes.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
never worn one, not about to start anytime.

You’re part of the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE then, like me.

It’s hard to take a mask off when you’ve never worn one.

MOST people never will

Oh god this is going to be a fun one! Traditional mega response as I read through the thread typed up in Notepad.

Addendum: This got lengthy and will need a few posts, actually. So it may need some parsing if you see me referring back to things within the post (that aren't actually within that post).

a reply to: iammrhappy86

I have barely worn a mask. Even when it was 'mandated' by local government. About the only time I have is when an employee of a business has asked me, within the capacity of the business, to wear one. Even then, it's usually just easy enough to go somewhere else.

Also, I enjoy seeing the people alone, outside, masked up. Always good for a laugh. Same for those alone in their cars.

a reply to: uncommitted

You mean 'healthy' by that?

As it turns out, 'asymptomatic cases' are a lot less prevalent that originally believed. In addition to that, studies have found 'asymptomatic transmission' to be non-existent. Here is a peer reviewed study from a credible, scientific source. I included some excerpts of the relevant results.

Post-lockdown SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid screening in nearly ten million residents of Wuhan, China
Nov 20, 2020

The screening of the 9,865,404 participants without a history of COVID-19 found no newly confirmed COVID-19 cases, and identified 300 asymptomatic positive cases with a detection rate of 0.303 (95% CI 0.270–0.339)/10,000... A total of 1174 close contacts of the asymptomatic positive cases were traced, and they all tested negative for the COVID-19...

Virus cultures were negative for all asymptomatic positive and repositive cases, indicating no “viable virus” in positive cases detected in this study.

All asymptomatic positive cases, repositive cases and their close contacts were isolated for at least 2 weeks until the results of nucleic acid testing were negative. None of detected positive cases or their close contacts became symptomatic or newly confirmed with COVID-19 during the isolation period.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
a reply to: uncommitted
a reply to: Blue Shift
a reply to: Littlebatman
a reply to: Gnawledge
a reply to: THeGreaTZoiD
a reply to: Phage
a reply to: fencesitter85
a reply to: logicsoda

All of your posts had something in common: You claim in them that either (or some combination of) travel restrictions, quarantines, social distancing, or masks work.

This is just sort of a blanket response to all above as I went through this thread. You may have only touched on one of those topics in your post, so please feel free to omit what you didn't address. Simpler than typing the same thing repeatedly. I hope you understand.

Do you have any credible, peer reviewed science stating that travel restrictions, quarantines, social distancing, or masks actually work? You all made claims of science backing these statements up, however did not provide any evidence.

Burden of proof is with you.

a reply to: Gnawledge

Why so confrontational? Why do you feel the need to virtue signal? How does you wearing a mask help me? Can you provide some credible, peer reviewed science backing that up? (Tired images and metaphors of peeing on the pantleg need not apply).

originally posted by: Gnawledge
Science is cool... But, Science.

Sources? Please and thank you.

a reply to: uncommitted

Please see the study on 'asymptomatic transmission' linked to above within this post. It may have been in a response to you already, actually.

a reply to: Themaskedbeast

I'm not going to lie about this: It is fun to walk down the grocery store aisles (maskless) and rip farts only to see the furrowed brows of disgusted faces hidden by the masks.

It's the little things in life.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

If you're vaccinated how can you transmit the virus? Sounds like the vaccine doesn't work.

Why would you cough, spit, or hack on my kids? Chances are if they didn't punch you for that, I would. That would be assault and I would be acting in self defense.

a reply to: Dumbass

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a reply to: TXRabbit

It's a bit dated, going back to mid-August 2020, but this has some of the information you're looking for. I've had a heck of a time finding anything with raw numbers though. Would love to see it when it's located, as I'm sure it's out there.

www.cdc.gov...

a reply to: uncommitted

How have masked reduced the spread? You keep saying this, however are yet to back it up.

To quote Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

And that proof of burden is on you.

a reply to: uncommitted

Preliminary data shows that deaths stayed fairly consistent year over year. However, the finalized data takes awhile to compile and lags behind. For example, the most currently available year for the US through the CDC is 2019.

While a bit dated (mid-August 2020) this Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report states that there was a blossoming mental health crisis within the US. During June 2020 (again, finalized data lags behind publishing) 40% of respondents had reported struggling with mental health issues including anxiety/depression, substance abuse, trauma and stress related disorders, and even suicidal thoughts.

a reply to: marg6043

Isn't it funny how, now with a new administration in power, many of those same states have miraculously seen bed availability increase and are working towards opening back up again? The governors of MI, CA, and NY have really changed their tunes in the last month. What a coincidence!

I'm very glad to be in Florida, where our governor took the teeth out of any local level mandates early on.

a reply to: Breakthestreak
Really?

You have asked more than 3.9 billion people (about half the population of earth) if they have worn a mask, and a vast majority said no?

I find that hard to believe.

a reply to: 1947boomer

Thank you for providing one of the first, scientifically backed (though not sourced) posts within this thread. I also thank you for your non-confrontational and juvenile attitude, as compared to other pro-mask people I've responded to within this thread. I genuinely mean that.

Now, one thing you do say is that...

The droplets are big enough to get trapped in the fibers of a good virus mask.

What constitutes a 'good virus mask' though? Is it a full PAPR? An N95? A surgical mask? Gaiter? Bandana?

Well, according to the Mayo Clinic not all masks are created equal.

The most common mask I see people wearing is a surgical mask.

At this time, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved any type of surgical mask specifically for protection against the coronavirus..

Well, guess that's out. How about the second most common type I've seen: An N95 with or without a vent?

For reference, N95s meant to be fit tested to ensure that they are functioning properly. Without a proper fit test, they are ineffective. Having said that...

Some N95 masks, and even some cloth masks, have one-way valves that make them easier to breathe through. But because the valve releases unfiltered air when the wearer breathes out, this type of mask doesn't prevent the wearer from spreading the virus.

Eek! Guess that one is a no-go too. Well, how about cloth masks such as gaiters and bandanas?

Actually, the Mayo clinic doesn't have too much to say about this one. They do, but nothing about the efficacy of them. Mostly about how to make them and to use them, as surgical and N95 masks should be reserved for medical or others who would need them.

However, the CDC did perform a study on cloth masks, all the way back in 2015!

Rates of infection were consistently higher among those in the cloth mask group than in the medical mask and control groups. This finding suggests that risk for infection was higher for those wearing cloth masks... We found that the filtration effectiveness of cloth masks is generally lower than that of medical masks and respirators.

Ruh roh! Looks like a full PAPR is the only 'good virus mask' to use.

a reply to: cenpuppie

Survival rate is pretty high when it comes down to the numbers. Sorry to disappoint.

I have seen this neat little covid risk calculator that takes in age, gender, and any diagnosed comorbidities into account. When I plug in my 35 male without comorbidities self it comes back with a 2.78% chance of hospitalization and a 0.07% chance of death. In comparison, the the risks of hospitalization within the next 12 months from all non-covid related causes is 6.4%. For death it's a 0.21% chance. The same self, but with all listed comorbidities? A 4.8% chance of hospitalization and a 0.16% chance of death.

I'll take my chances without the mask.

a reply to: butcherguy

Don't forget needing to take medical swabs and test to know if you even have (or have had!) the virus.

a reply to: marg6043

Because China bought and paid for the people in positions to care long ago. This was very well orchestrated. Even if it wasn't, they certainly did not let it go to waste!

a reply to: Blue Shift

The molecule of a fart, methanethiol, for example, is about 0.4 nm in size. A covid virus is around 100 nm in size (give or take, found 60 nm to 140 nm). Either way, much larger. However, not all masks are worn properly or are made from materials that would actually protect from the virus being transmitted on aerosols. I addressed this above in this post.

a reply to: THeGreaTZoiD

Last I checked, at its core, this was a conspiracy theory based website.

Restrictions have done far more than 'make a few people angry' it seems. Above within this post I addressed the blossoming mental health crisis looming within the US. The shut downs have, as of September 2020, when this article wa written, lead to the permanent closure of nearly 100,000 US businesses.

Nearly 100,000 establishments that temporarily shut down due to the pandemic are now out of business

In fact, "if economic trends continue at this rate, one in five business owners anticipates they won’t make it until the end of the year," Kevin Kuhlman, the vice president of federal government relations for the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB), a nonprofit small-business advocacy group, recently told Fortune.

a reply to: THeGreaTZoiD

Anecdotal evidence isn't.

a reply to: ketsuko

The virtue signaling has been laid on super thick, hasn't it? Reminds me of the old South Park episode where everyone is buying Priuses... but with masks.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Your post triggered the memory of a quote from RAH's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"

Must be a yearning deep in human heart to stop other people from doing as they please. Rules, laws — always for other fellow. A murky part of us, something we had before we came down out of trees, and failed to shuck when we stood up.

I think it fits. Thank you for the reminder.

I live my life as I see fit and do not rearrange around others' fears.

a reply to: Phage

I addressed the misconception of 'asymptomatic transmissions' above within this post using a peer-reviewed, scientific study.

a reply to: Salander

In a surgical setting the patient would also typically have an open wound or incision, thereby circumventing the body's natural immune system. It's apples and oranges.





Glad I was able to get all this in with only two posts. I look forward to your responses!

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

You might not know it, but doctors and nurses wear masks in the operating room to protect the patient from any bacteria or other germs they may expel from their mouths and noses.

That is, they do not wear those masks to protect themselves from stray virus.

That is exactly the same reason we are supposed to wear masks.

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

No they haven't silly-willy !

A low percentage of docs will wear a mask for surgery, possibly infectious patients, or in emergency ops.
And only for a few minutes at a time, then off with the nappie for the rest of the day.

'Decades'...

nonsense Dr's in hospitals of countries where diseases like tb is rampant wear masks all the time.

There must be coverup by the globalist of doctors without borders hiding this fungal lung pandemic

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
never worn one, not about to start anytime.

You’re part of the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE then, like me.

It’s hard to take a mask off when you’ve never worn one.

MOST people never will

Facts established, vast majority of people don't wear masks, RONA is growing exponentially.

Now to apply occums razor...