Do yourselves a favor; take off your masks and breath!

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
never worn one, not about to start anytime.

You’re part of the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE then, like me.

It’s hard to take a mask off when you’ve never worn one.

MOST people never will

Facts established, vast majority of people don't wear masks, RONA is growing exponentially.

Now to apply occums razor...

In my country, you're not allowed to enter any commerce without a mask.

Hell, they won't even let you in to buy a mask if you don't have one on.

I highly doubt the veracity of your "facts."


I work for one of the biggest senior living residence company in the country.

The largest of all their complexes in my province of Quebec.

I see the residents on a daily basis, and I have seen the ones with covid during outbreaks.


My experience is entirely contrary to what the news tells us.

It is opposite from others in the medical field who also have anecdotal experiences to share.

I am seeing fear, and a highly severe overreaction to a nearly non-issue.


We are clearly not in agreement on the reality of what is going on.

So what is it then? Am I, all those around me, and many I speak to a crazy lucky exception?

Or are you and others like you somehow cursed with a more serious virus perhaps?


All I'm saying is we don't all have the same picture.

Either someone somewhere is lying, or something really off is going on.

With those who dare to question authority being discouraged, mocked, even censored, how will we ever get to the Truth?



I guess we'll see...

Or not?

The day where nobody asks the questions, you'll all live in a fool's paradise; completely vulnerable to usurpers.

originally posted by: iammrhappy86

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
never worn one, not about to start anytime.

You’re part of the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE then, like me.

It’s hard to take a mask off when you’ve never worn one.

MOST people never will

Facts established, vast majority of people don't wear masks, RONA is growing exponentially.

Now to apply occums razor...

In my country, you're not allowed to enter any commerce without a mask.

Hell, they won't even let you in to buy a mask if you don't have one on.

I highly doubt the veracity of your "facts."


I work for one of the biggest senior living residence company in the country.

The largest of all their complexes in my province of Quebec.

I see the residents on a daily basis, and I have seen the ones with covid during outbreaks.


My experience is entirely contrary to what the news tells us.

It is opposite from others in the medical field who also have anecdotal experiences to share.

I am seeing fear, and a highly severe overreaction to a nearly non-issue.


We are clearly not in agreement on the reality of what is going on.

So what is it then? Am I, all those around me, and many I speak to a crazy lucky exception?

Or are you and others like you somehow cursed with a more serious virus perhaps?


All I'm saying is we don't all have the same picture.

Either someone somewhere is lying, or something really off is going on.

With those who dare to question authority being discouraged, mocked, even censored, how will we ever get to the Truth?



I guess we'll see...

Or not?

The day where nobody asks the questions, you'll all live in a fool's paradise; completely vulnerable to usurpers.

I was a bit liberal with the use of the word "fact" I admit, it was more in reply to a poster that implied that most people don't wear masks.

In my country hospitals are full there is simply not enough beds, people are literally waiting in their cars in the parking lot for someone to die so that they can get a bed.

Maybe covid isn't as bad in Canada because people are disciplined?

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

Do you have any credible, peer reviewed science stating that travel restrictions, quarantines, social distancing, or masks actually work? You all made claims of science backing these statements up, however did not provide any evidence.

Definitive proof: Australia and New Zealand.

And their success has been reported to the USA in the Washington Post at least. I am sure that dozens of peer reviewed papers and analysts 'white papers' are in production from all over the world.

And you won't hear about it from the Lame Stream Liars like Faux Gnus.

But the proof is to simply look at the actual results. Australia has been completely free from community transmission and has been so (barring a couple of small outbreaks) for more than 3 months. New Zealand has had no community transmission since June 2020.

All new cases, every single one, have been definitively linked to returned overseas travelers. A couple of small outbreaks have been the result of quarantine failures of said overseas travelers. The current outbreak in New South Wales was apparently the result of such a breach, but the contact links have not been identified. It may instead have been an international air crew that decided to go out partying instead of staying in their hotel like they were supposed to.

Now get off my lawn.

a reply to: iammrhappy86
We have had serious outbreaks at care homes in BC, 41 out of a hundred infected, died in one place alone, virus brought in via staff. If your place of work is not impacted..great. We have had 1163 deaths, around 70% in care homes. I realise sometimes one foots in the grave already though.

Quebecs #s are not really good in general though..far worse than B.C.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: iammrhappy86
We have had serious outbreaks at care homes in BC, 41 out of a hundred infected, died in one place alone, virus brought in via staff. If your place of work is not impacted..great. We have had 1163 deaths, around 70% in care homes. I realise sometimes one foots in the grave already though.

Quebecs #s are not really good in general though..far worse than B.C.

I'm sorry to hear that, and thank you for sharing.

I see the numbers on the news look terrible, and I admit the cases do spread like wild-fire.

Maybe these I work with are a resilient bunch then, I don't know what else to say.

a reply to: iammrhappy86

Follow the Science. Wear Your Face Diaper. Flatten the Curve.

-A Fauci April 2020

Wow you are really misinformed. Why don't you open a book or get on the internet and find out why those women wear face covering And come back . Be sure and come back and explain why you wrote why you did

originally posted by: marg6043
For some reason mask remind me of the oppressed women from the middle east that have to be shame into hiding their faces or be stone to dead under sharia law.

a reply to: rnaa

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post.

I knew Australia had things "under control" but hardly so successfully!

But at what cost?

Even here on ATS people have been vocal about the Draconian measures of the government. Here are a couple threads for you.

Welcome to Victoria Australia the police state
Australian? The COVID-19 Phone App is already on your phone.

Not good enough? How about increases in suicides?

Harrowing suicide figures reveal toll on Victorians
The silent death toll of COVID-19 revealed: Huge 25 per cent jump in suicides each year

Still not enough? How about businesses closing (either temporarily or for good) and the associated jobs lost?

A rolling list of retailers that have shut their doors amid the coronavirus outbreak, including Michael Hill, Noni B and The Athlete's Foot
Coronavirus in Australia: One million people lost their jobs in a month due to COVID-19 crisis

But, maybe you're one of the few who came out ahead in all this?

Australia’s Billionaires Increased Their Wealth by 50% During COVID-19

Was it all worth it for an illness less lethal to the majority of the population than the seasonal flu?

originally posted by: rnaa

That is total BS and since you appear to be smart enough to breathe in and out, I imagine you know that this comment is BS - which makes you a troll.
...

Nice knee-jerk reaction, Dude...

originally posted by: daskakik

According to this, in this particular public university hospital 80% of operations averaged 3 hours and 15 minutes.

The study measured 8,337 operations of 12 surgical specialties performed within one year. The overall mean duration of anesthesia of all specialties was 178.12±110.46 minutes, and the 80th percentile was 252 minutes. The mean operative time was 130.45±97.23 minutes, and the 80th percentile was 195 minutes.

Also, 8,337 is almost 23 surgeries per day. That is a lot of people wearing masks for more than just a few minutes.

Docs were mentioned, and not the entire staff.

According to your link : the average operative time is 130 minutes ( 2.17 hours.) .

More than one million surgical procedures are performed annually in Canada.

There were 913 75 Physicians in Canada in 2019.

Canadian Physicians work an average of 51.7 hours per week, as per this link.

51.7 x 91375 x 52 = 245,652,550 hours worked by Doctors, yearly. ( Average.)

One million surgeries per year, x 2.17 hours = 2,170,000 hours Docs spend in surgery, wearing a mask.

2,170,000 divided by 245,652,550 = 0,88 % of Doctors total working hours in Canada, are spent masked, in surgery.

The comment was that ..."...Dr's have been wearing masks for decades..."...
But they spend less than 1% of their time masked, overall, as a group.

The crux of my reply was to suggest that Docs actually only wore masks for minimal amounts of times, as compared now to some workers who must wear them for 40 hours per week, every week.

Can you see now how they're not really comparable ?

Also : if you have ever worked in an industrial setting, you will know that those plastic/rubber respirators used have to be disinfected every day, right ?

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: kykweer

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: iammrhappy86

I been breathing everyday without mask, mask now will start a new pandemic of fungal and bacterial infections in the lungs, our respiratory system was not made to be breathing through anything including materials is supposed to be open and free.

Interestingly itsn't that what covid does? infects the lungs?

Dr's have been wearing masks for decades I'm surprised there hasn't been a fungal pandemic yet?

No they haven't silly-willy !

A low percentage of docs will wear a mask for surgery, possibly infectious patients, or in emergency ops.
And only for a few minutes at a time, then off with the nappie for the rest of the day.

'Decades'...

nonsense Dr's in hospitals of countries where diseases like tb is rampant wear masks all the time.

There must be coverup by the globalist of doctors without borders hiding this fungal lung pandemic

See my reply to Daskakik.

Please tell us more of this 'coverup' ?

I wear a mask in crowded public spaces, at work, and on public transportation. I wear the mask not because of any fear I'm supposed to feel, but because in many places it is the right and sensible thing to do, and it is also a courteous thing to do, but above all, because the virus is real.

Masks don't stop the virus fully, but they do offer a little more protection than not wearing one. So, to paraphrase the people who own guns, it is better to wear one and not need it, than to not wear one and needed it. Protect yourself, and protect others for the similar but alternative reason you own a gun.

Ultimately, this virus is now with us forever, and we have to develop some form of general immunity to its many variants. Most of the variants won't harm us, because our bodies will deal with them on its own, but there are variants that will cause harm. Lockdowns and restrictions won't end until we reach about 75% general immunity. You can help reach that figure by taking sensible precautions. Those who wear face-coverings do not transmit as much as those who don't.

I have no time, nor do I care about those who do not wear masks. Selfishness is something I cannot abide by, and I have no problem in telling anyone who isn't wearing a mask to # off and keep their distance, especially strangers. You are not being clever, or beating the government by not wearing a mask, but it's your choice, just bear in mind that consequences will follow if you try to engage with those who see it as a courteous civic duty to wear one.

Yes, the crisis is being used by globalists to push their agendas, but that is a separate issue to the actual real threat of the real virus that is really killing people who are susceptible to it. I don't wear a mask in open places where there are no people. You have got to be pragmatic about this and use commonsense. Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, it's up to you. Me, I wear a mask so that I can still go about my business without causing concern to others.

a reply to: Nothin
You took doctors in general instead of surgeons to make your argument and that also doesn't include the rest of the surgical team.

Workers who must wear them for 40 hours per week, every week works in favor of the claim that people have been wearing masks for prolonged periods of time for decades.

a reply to: elysiumfire

What gets me are the staunch mask supporters who personally wear the masks that are only 30% effective against viruses, instead of the masks that are 95% effective against viruses.

It can't be due to "ignorance" that they chose the less effective masks. They must have studied the science of masking (or whatever its called), or they wouldn't be so "pro mask".

a reply to: jjkenobi

Everyone wears masks everywhere.

Not around here.

Yet COVID still spreading,

And that's why, idiots acting like there's nothing to worry about.

But to find out if you even have COVID they have to swab the front of your brain.

The Chinese fixed that.

Anal Swab Covid Test Won’t Make You Waddle Like A ‘Penguin,’ China Says

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Nothin
You took doctors in general instead of surgeons to make your argument and that also doesn't include the rest of the surgical team.

Workers who must wear them for 40 hours per week, every week works in favor of the claim that people have been wearing masks for prolonged periods of time for decades.

Which is why my first line was : "Docs were mentioned, and not the entire staff."
That was in the original comment, that my reply was initially addressing.

Sorry, but don't follow the logic in your second sentence.

How do Doctors wearing masks for less than 1% of the time, as a group, "work in favor of" workers wearing them for 40-hour work weeks nowadays ?

Also worth considering how often low-wage workers change-out their masks.
Are they going all day, or even multiple days with the same masks ?

Have seen it in a couple of places, that those regular surgical masks should be changed every 4 hours.

originally posted by: elysiumfire

As I asked previously in this post to others:

Do you have any credible, peer reviewed science stating that... masks actually work?

Omitted other restrictions you didn't touch on for brevity.

Will you be the first one to to address the science behind masks?

So, to paraphrase the people who own guns, it is better to wear one and not need it, than to not wear one and needed it. Protect yourself, and protect others for the similar but alternative reason you own a gun.

So, to paraphrase pro-choice, it's my body, my choice. Same argument.

Lockdowns and restrictions won't end until we reach about 75% general immunity.

Science to back this up? Even Fauci admits to moving the goalposts on that one.

I have no time, nor do I care about those who do not wear masks.

Your thick virtue signaling really sells that point too.

Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, it's up to you.

Well there's something we can agree on. However, from your post, I don't think you really believe that.

originally posted by: Nothin
How do Doctors wearing masks for less than 1% of the time, as a group, "work in favor of" workers wearing them for 40-hour work weeks nowadays ?

I think you misunderstood the original claim, people have been wearing masks for prolonged periods of time for decades.

They gave doctors as an example but I'm sure they meant surgeons and other members of surgical teams and what I pointed out was that they don't wear them just for minutes. Watering down the average time by including doctors who never wear masks gives an inaccurate bit of data, in that regard.

I misunderstood what you wrote about workers wearing them for 40-hour work week for other examples of people who have worn masks for prolonged times before covid like painters, people doing sandblasting and other jobs where masks are the norm for whole shifts. These would be other examples that back up the original claim.

I just got a call from a friend of mine, that does not wear a mask unless she has to, and then it is either under her nose or around her chin. She frequently said she thought COVID was a hoax.

Anyway she called, well, it was actually her husband who called, to inform me that she was sick. She was tested and she is positive for COVID.

Just sharing.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I just got a call from a friend of mine, that does not wear a mask unless she has to, and then it is either under her nose or around her chin. She frequently said she thought COVID was a hoax.

Anyway she called, well, it was actually her husband who called, to inform me that she was sick. She was tested and she is positive for COVID.

Just sharing.

My best friend refused to wear a mask anywhere or in stores etc, and thinks its just another flu that doesn't require lockdowns.
Well he caught it 3 weeks ago and was very ill for 16 days. He said it was worse than any flu he'd ever had, and during his illness it felt like he had a broken spine and pelvis, which I thought was odd.

He's still coughing a bit too.

Anyway thought I'd share as well