This is What's Inside the 2nd Largest Ancient Egyptian Pyramid - Khafre’s Pyramid

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Byrd

Thanks for the links.

In the room with the tomb there are no hieroglyphics. Same with the bent pyramid.
Wouldn't there be because these are tombs of kings?

No. It's because they weren't putting these inscriptions in any tomb at the time. There's evidence (from the language) that they were reciting these things over the deceased but tomb inscriptions and decorations on the interior were (at least in Djoser's case) done with plaster and paint, which wouldn't last once someone got inside.

Also, why the pyramid? Is it a complete pile of rocks so to speak?
Im guessing the thinking would be so that no-one could possibly break into the tombs with all that above them?
Or is there more of a spiritual reason i.e. getting the soul to the heavens?

We don't know exactly because they didn't write down the reasons. However, this was the time of the rise of the solar cults and it's thought that the pyramid reflects the rays of the rising sun.

a reply to: Byrd

Yeah i heard that as well but I think it's much simpler than that. The reason they use a pyramid is its the only way they would have had to build up. This is why you see mounds in a lot of cultures you want to build upwards the most stable way to do it is a pyramid shape anything else requires more advanced techniques such as a sky scrapper.

a reply to: Byrd

We don't know exactly because they didn't write down the reasons.

Why didn't they though?
They wrote about a helluva lot of things, why not the pyramids?
Maybe the pyramids are an earlier civilisation's creations?

Speaking of how they moved things, here's a video i came across of Khufu's tomb

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Byrd

We don't know exactly because they didn't write down the reasons.

Why didn't they though?
They wrote about a helluva lot of things, why not the pyramids?
Maybe the pyramids are an earlier civilisation's creations?

Have you tried to find out if they wrote anything at all about the construction of any of their monumental buildings?

Harte

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
Speaking of how they moved things, here's a video i came across of Khufu's tomb

Video for the ignorant. Pretends the Dendera "Lightbulbs" are a mystery and that Khufu's sarcophagus had to be delivered after the construction of his pyramid.

This video was made for people that either won't use their brains, or can't.

Harte

a reply to: Harte

Of course the problem is that there is so much mass media people could immerse themselves in.
Even amongst UFO enthusiasts very few that would try and reverse engineer such a magnificent ancient alien craft like this.
The *caricature* of the alternate interpretation could have been implemented (but certainly not by an autistic geared toward math. "If all you have is an elephant everything looks like Roots".

How did the ancient Egyptians create the passages through the bedrock? IIUC modern excavation projects use very large boring machines, and in the not distant past, TNT could be used to blast tunnels through very hard/dense material (although not very accurate way to build tunnels). The ancient Egyptians had neither of these tools.

Was it as simple as using primitive hand tools, chisels, hammers, axes etc or were there any other methods in use? I thought I read that for quarrying the large stone blocks for the pyramids, a technique was used to hammer wood wedges into cracks in the stone, then by wetting the wood, the wedge would expand and break off chunks of rock. Seems like that wouldn't be useful in tunneling (the stone will crack along random fault lines in the rock, not necessarily aligned with the direction you're trying to tunnel).

I also was curious how some of the artifacts could be positioned in the lower chambers so precisely with the cardinal directions? IIRC one of the granite boxes was nearly perfectly aligned pointing North (I could be wrong might've been a different direction). They were working meters below ground with no windows or way to visibly orient from looking outside. IIUC the Egyptians had no compasses back then to help orient themselves. Could they have rigged a series of mirrors through the passages and watched as the reflected sunlight traveled across the chamber, and then worked out North from South etc?

The more I think about all of these architectural feats, the more impressed I am with the Egyptian's dedication and ingenuity.

If there is a series of older threads that already cover some of this ground, please feel free to link it so I'm just noy rehashing questions that have been answered years ago.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

When you assert that the Ancient Egyptians did not have magnetic field detection and couldn't even add or subtract, you are acting as a disinformation source. If you intended the mods to nuance this and explain that the pyramids were so accurately located that they must have used pole star technology then you are sending instructions to the robots?

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Byrd

We don't know exactly because they didn't write down the reasons.

Why didn't they though?
They wrote about a helluva lot of things, why not the pyramids?
Maybe the pyramids are an earlier civilisation's creations?

Have you tried to find out if they wrote anything at all about the construction of any of their monumental buildings?

Harte

Obviously i havn't, hence the question.

I actually take notice when Byrd posts, so i like to ask her some questions. Because there is still some mystery to aspects of the pyramids, i like to ask an expert's opinion when i get the chance. How often does one get that chance?

a reply to: Harte

Did you not get your weetabix this morning?

Im sure he mentioned that maybe the pyramid was built around the sarcophagus or that there are passageways yet to be discovered?
So how did they get Khufu's sarcophagus in there?

originally posted by: Slichter
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

When you assert that the Ancient Egyptians did not have magnetic field detection and couldn't even add or subtract, you are acting as a disinformation source. If you intended the mods to nuance this and explain that the pyramids were so accurately located that they must have used pole star technology then you are sending instructions to the robots?

I didn't assert the ancient Egyptians didn't have magnetic compasses. I linked a (maybe not so convincing) story from Newsweek that made that claim. If you have a better source that contradicts this idea, by all means post it. I am open to all ideas that have a factual basis.

If you intended the mods to nuance this and explain that the pyramids were so accurately located that they must have used pole star technology then you are sending instructions to the robots?

I have no idea what this ^^^^ means. Can you clarify?

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: Harte

Did you not get your weetabix this morning?

Im sure he mentioned that maybe the pyramid was built around the sarcophagus or that there are passageways yet to be discovered?
So how did they get Khufu's sarcophagus in there?

They mved it up there when they had the floor finished but not the rest of the chamber, of course. Why would anyone even ask this question?
I don't know what else the guy may have mentioned. Why watch past the point of the above idiocy I pointed out?
A craving for more idiocy?
I don't crave such.
Besides, look at the title of the video. Whatever else he may have said, that title is designed to attract the ignorant.

Harte

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened

originally posted by: Slichter
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

When you assert that the Ancient Egyptians did not have magnetic field detection and couldn't even add or subtract, you are acting as a disinformation source. If you intended the mods to nuance this and explain that the pyramids were so accurately located that they must have used pole star technology then you are sending instructions to the robots?

I didn't assert the ancient Egyptians didn't have magnetic compasses. I linked a (maybe not so convincing) story from Newsweek that made that claim. If you have a better source that contradicts this idea, by all means post it. I am open to all ideas that have a factual basis.

If you intended the mods to nuance this and explain that the pyramids were so accurately located that they must have used pole star technology then you are sending instructions to the robots?

I have no idea what this ^^^^ means. Can you clarify?

The AEs didn't have magnetic compasses. But even if they did, they didn't use them. You know, there's a difference between magnetic north and true north.

Harte

a reply to: dragonridr

This is done by expanding surface area

You and SecretKnowledge seem to have this pretty well figured out.
The video of the pyramid built 1000 years after the Giza observations appears to me to be a reply.
A casual observation would imply that surface tension would need to be factored into the calibration.

I've had this theory that aliens traveled to Earth from a distant binary star system thousands of years ago and became stranded on Earth somehow unable to communicate and not DNA compatible with any of the Earthlings.
Their brains were evolved spatially for building machines for interstellar travel but they didn't have 5 fingered appendages and they read from right to left so instead of scribbling some formula in base 10 they could only point at nail polish and mumble hooome.

So how do you entice the autistic Earthling mathematicians to help with the math since they have no clue what its for?
Maybe this will work, lets try washing their underwear in the alien computer.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened


All they have to do is make sure passage is straight and aligned north and south easy as long as you keep taking measurements,
Now i cut a room in this shaft now by north south passage will give me a room aligned east and west as long as i make sure the corners are square. This will always self align rooms as long as you watch your corners. If the room is aligned placing something in it just needs to be measured. So if your passage is aligned everything will be automatically.

a reply to: dragonridr

I'll repost this video since it seems appropriate, damudy passages don't align with much of anything.
The measurement of the granite in the video suggests a possible 2010 solution(don't have the link) which might suggest this was a reply to a prediction made circa 2800 BC.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened


All they have to do is make sure passage is straight and aligned north and south easy as long as you keep taking measurements,
Now i cut a room in this shaft now by north south passage will give me a room aligned east and west as long as i make sure the corners are square. This will always self align rooms as long as you watch your corners. If the room is aligned placing something in it just needs to be measured. So if your passage is aligned everything will be automatically.

Yes makes sense; your entrance passage is your "compass". How they burrowed through many meters of bedrock and maintained strict alignment of the passages with the cardinal directions (without straying off course) is another question.

a reply to: Harte

I may be an idiot and ignorant but at least im not an a55hole like some