Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Human beings have a ridiculous amount of potential.

Religion and government are the two pillars,

of the control system,

which neuters the best in human beings,

and sucks the life out of them,

to ensure those at the top stay fat, dumb and happy (rich).

Also, not even Buddhism, one of the religions with the most
potential (and forms of Yoga) are even in the ballpark..

Their autistic spectrum founders had a lot going for them..
but so much get's lost in the transmission.

Religion tends to be a massive disinformation campaign.

Just like Government.

Kev

NHI threat

Please define that term.

Old Jack Parsons, is an interesting guy.
It’s said in occult ufo circles his Babalon working started ufos coming here through a portal he and Hubbard opened up. The dates match but ufos have been here longer than 47.

Overall, my take is ufos and religion have a connection somewhere to be exposed. Though really too deep to plunge into here…

But I will say this, the AA theory has a few decent ideas (but not many) and one is about the biblical ufo events, that may have a connection to ufos in some form. Or more precisely metaphysics and ufology are connected.

None of us save maybe some ancient sages really know the mystery of life and what this nutty world is all about: ufos, religion, science, spirituality, life, death, etc.… Other than self-centered dogma folks indulge in which mostly is ego-based… And even if we did know, it doesn't mean we can communicate it to others easily.

Religion and ufology to a degree offer a salve of faith NOT real CERTAINTY.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

The ancient sages need to be improved upon, or you are calling
the human race a pile of steaming sheit.

I'm not one of those 'we live in the Kali Yuga' people.
(though i understand why some say that).

For a pressure cooker to pop it's top, the boiling
point must be reached, and exceeded.

I know a number of people, busily at work to do just that;
and it's not a cult, not a 'mystery school', and in fact it's
dosed through and through with science.

If 'jesus' or 'buddha' lived in our time, they'd be arrested,
put in I love me jackets and soundly dosed with antipsychotics.

and with some good reason.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


That’s the point, the human race can’t produce a Buddha or Jesus today.

We're close to nuclear annihilation at any minute, I wouldn't call that a successful civilization, proud of science, modernity, and technology.

One concept from religion is valid and that is that humans are a failed species, just read the news.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


That’s the point, the human race can’t produce a Buddha or Jesus today.

We're close to nuclear annihilation at any minute, I wouldn't call that a successful civilization, proud of science, modernity, and technology.

One concept from religion is valid and that is that humans are a failed species, just read the news.

I hope we never produce another jesus or buddha again. We can't afford to be that regressive anymore.

Everything happening today is a result of bad choices made by 'ancient sages'.

Now, I don't hold it agianst them,

but we need to mature away from both old, failed, dead dudes,

and excessive worhsip of technology (scientism) both.

Humans were once down to 10,000 or less members...

there will be rough patches, for any species.

and the average time a mammalian species survives on Earth
is just 1 million years.

We may make it, we may not make it.

Earth doesn't care.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Haven't heard anything since Lue said it was "progressing".
Not sure what to expect - maybe he kept a few tidbits back but his rock solid adherence to the "i cant/wont tell you anything classified" approach makes it an unexciting proposition.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

NHI- Non Human Intelligence

NHI was just one of the weird recurrent phrases used by multiple people during the TTSA period.
They dont have a clue what it is...but they know for sure what it isn't style.

a reply to: Jukiodone

If you don't understand something, or want to be a 'poser',
invent a new acronym or technical term and hide behind it.

If that's not good enough, claim NDA or Security Clearance
and hide behind that. (or call it a 'divine mystery')

if that doesn't work,

like after MKULTRA was busted wide-open in congress,

just name it something completely different,

have a differnet group of people do it,

and rinse, repeat

until you get enough credulous fools to participate and
to 'become your converts', willing or otherwise.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Many believe the opposite that the world needs wise teachers. But everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

We do know the parameters of human nature through many of these teachers including modern science, and religion.

Look, I don’t like religion either, as I don’t like ufology on the most part, but the issue I have with folks who bash things is that whether we like them or not they are an integral part of human reality and nature (since humans produced them or were the recipient of the experiences).

What are their alternatives? Base materialism. That’s very reductionist.

IMO we justifiably bash Zondo and the TTS folks. But I think everything always has an upside to it, some less than others. And as one of their most ardent critics, on the other hand, I recognize the fact that maybe TTS did make some positive contributions to the study of ufos.

Nothing is perfect or all imperfect.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
IMO we justifiably bash Zondo and the TTS folks. But I think everything always has an upside to it, some less than others. And as one of their most ardent critics, on the other hand, I recognize the fact that maybe TTS did make some positive contributions to the study of ufos.

Nothing is perfect or all imperfect.

Quite true.

While Gary Nolan was part of the science advisory board
he did some GROUNDBREAKING work.

I ALWAYS give TTSA and outliers of TTSA credit when
they do something honest and useful.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

What are their alternatives? Base materialism. That’s very reductionist.

The healing of science and spirituality is on the way... one drop at a time,
but if we surive the next 100 years, it should be solidly here.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: peaceinoutz

Amazing achievement!!

Apparently he's taking a step back from the gruelling podcast circuit. Perhaps because he still hasn't started that book? Perhaps because the more he speaks, the less he really says? If he's really said anything of value beyond stirring up the sub-geniuses of the UFO Titter.

I really don't get how someone can allude to the things BF Lue does and be under a real NDA. It's obviously his excuse and 'get out' for answering awkward questions.

I am beginning to ponder if he's just a Walter Mitty type opportunist. Trying to become someone beyond his dreary desk job countering people's intelligence. With his patents, his pie in the sky (or sea!) Shipping Business ideas falling flat suddenly the Bigelow's Boys arrived and Zondo saw grifter gold.

Dirty Harry had arranged for the contracted $22m (and beyond) to go to his billionaire patron. They procured and repurposed previously written papers (many by Bigelow's own Vegas UFO Mafia) to pass off to the DIA while they went UFO hunting. Which wasn't really what they were contracted to do. Someone got whiff of it.

The hounds in the DoD began to circle, Harry Reid tried to cover it all up under a SAP. That was refused (Zondo being fully aware in his then role for the USDI). So he then took the remnants of the project under the moniker of AATIP under his own steam, but unfunded.

He collected military reports of UAP. UAS and balloons in US airspace. All without any assigned responsibility for doing so.In 2016 he'd already found a home to rent in Encinitas (near DeLonge's HQ). So knew full well he was leavng the DoD well before he's claimed he knew of DeLonge etc. Then when TTSA failed to achieved its objectives, no spaceship built, no disclosure and no money left he jumped ship again to become a social media influencer.

With a book deal in the bag and his role as a UFO guru secured. He's finally made it.

Very well said. And the lack of press inquiry about all the shade you mention is actually proof Ufology has no real popularity among the public. If it did you’d have 1000 investigatory articles in the MSM like the one (and only) from The Intercept. Save for a few podcasts that expose this scam, it’s no interest in it.

And the mainstream ufo groups NOT exposing this shows they are bankrupt.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Anything more re Nolan Kev. Not kept up to date. I kind of like listening to him which is a rare thing for me.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Anything more re Nolan Kev. Not kept up to date. I kind of like listening to him which is a rare thing for me.

I'm not in his cadre.

I'm becoming part of another cadre, that has long tentacles,
but they are not UFOlogists (as there are no ufos, just effects
that people confuse with nuts and bolts ufos).

I'll leave it to Gary to release what info he wishes to release,
in the form he wishes to release it, and at the time he wishes
to release it.

But if I hear a bout something he's made pubic, sure!

I’m all for studying ufo artifacts, but in all my years of following ufo issues, I’ve never heard any of the materials bearing any alien provenance of any sort. Maybe those saltless biscuits some aliens were supposed to have given some farmer.

TTS, as far as I know even with all the hoopla behind some articles they have supposed to possess hasn’t said much as far as I know about these alien materials.

Any word on TTS’ alien artifact research?

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
I’m all for studying ufo artifacts, but in all my years of following ufo issues, I’ve never heard any of the materials bearing any alien provenance of any sort. Maybe those saltless biscuits some aliens were supposed to have given some farmer.

TTS, as far as I know even with all the hoopla behind some articles they have supposed to possess hasn’t said much as far as I know about these alien materials.

Any word on TTS’ alien artifact research?

Here’s the last known schedule of the CRADA between TTS and the Army, about hand over material to be investigated and tested……the dates are out till 2023…



I’m clueless on any progress 🥴

👽🛸🍺

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Thanks.

I guess they have this on the back burner.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I'll leave it to Gary to release what info he wishes to release,
in the form he wishes to release it, and at the time he wishes
to release it.

Ok Kev. You said wishes 3 times.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

abra cadabra