Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

originally posted by: mirageman

originally posted by: mirageman
And in other news

The BAASS AAWSAP CAPELLA data warehouse resurfaces

This 0TOAI, LLC company coincidentally has the same agents Cloud Peak Law as the SlyFort company patroned by BF Lue!!

Looks like this guy with the new subscription based UFO web venture is also still on the board of TTS too.

Hmmm...

Link

Ooh what a jolly looking chap.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

TTSA's 'real' mission was and is to 'weaponize ignorance'.

Do you really think that Kev? All is not as it seems that's for sure.

This is the genuine way of the world:

'true scholars' try to get some funding / piece of the action
while the flim flam 'front men' hypnotize the rubes for their
own more selfish purposes.

The one time I talked to GN on the phone, I asked him who
was funding his project and he said, "The funding for this
project is a pure source".

So that certainly shows his awareness of monies with strings
attached.. this story really tells nothing.. as everyone
knows this is the way of the world.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

The funding for this
project is a pure source"

Hmmm. A pure source. Does that mean clean money .

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

TTSA's 'real' mission was and is to 'weaponize ignorance'.

Do you really think that Kev? All is not as it seems that's for sure.

Curisoity seems to be a recurring theme with the post-2017 personalities of 'Nufology'

Jeremy wanted us all to weaponize our curiosity...

Timothy wanted everyone to be rebelliously curious when he debriefed everyone..

Although we should all remember what happened to the cat. And they have nine lives.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

I took it to be an academic grant for the sake of pure research,
not a grant used to conrtrol a useful idiot and then to ruin
that person's credability and to weaponize them in your
private litle war of social engineering.

You know, the 'standard stuff'.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Ok Kev, well hope good things result from this grant then.

In my opinion, the purpose of the TTSA was the same as Greer's Disclosure Project and Bassett's Citizen Hearing on Disclosure: to get the attention of politicians and creating pressure on the Pentagon.
Now the game is in the hands of politicians ... and the Pentagon

I think we will not be able to achieve anything but the Pentagon will be forced to say something to end the discussion ... I'm waiting

House Panel to Hold Public Hearing on Unexplained Aerial Sightings A subcommittee of the House Intelligence Committee will hear testimony next week from two Pentagon officials.

www.nytimes.com...

Let's see what happens. But the problem is the Pentagon doesn’t have the capacity to end the ufo mystery.
They’ve tried since 1947 with project after project and supposed “secret” projects and still, nothing is settled.
And now with the cold war almost turning into a hot war, this issue will likely fade away.

Politicians and the Pentagon?

It’s called:

the tail wagging the hog

originally posted by: gippo888
In my opinion, the purpose of the TTSA was the same as Greer's Disclosure Project and Bassett's Citizen Hearing on Disclosure: to get the attention of politicians and creating pressure on the Pentagon.
Now the game is in the hands of politicians ... and the Pentagon

I think we will not be able to achieve anything but the Pentagon will be forced to say something to end the discussion ... I'm waiting

Problem with Greer and Bassett was it was all lazy ufology. They started out with a parade of many of the usual UFO storytellers. On the surface it gave an air of authenticity to the topic. But when you dig deep there just isn't enough there to take the topic any further. Some folk rolled out are in ufology for ufotainment, personal fame and cash. Others set the bar low for what constitutes proof.

It also meant they could avoid inconvenient truths. Claim the American Government is hiding it from you. If the American Government denies, then you can claim you are vindicated and there is a cover-up.

I seriously doubt America's government is capable of conducting such a cover-up on a worldwide scale. Which means it's a tiny issue confined to America or the US government really doesn't know if some UFOs represent something otherworldly or not.

Bigelow and his tactics of acquiring and squirreling away UFO information from various entities and then silencing them with NDAs has been particularly suspect for decades. Ably assisted by his media PR chum and the folks who surround him. Yet ufology gives him a free pass and no pressure is placed on him at all to 'disclose' why he does it and what he does with the information.

Am reading this one now. I also can't keep up with Zondo. He seems to have his finger's in a lot of pies.

www.jasoncolavito.com... BpRqaK3yl6CVmH0OaZdhelaEnsnUQ4

a reply to: mirageman

Bigelow and his tactics of acquiring and squirreling away UFO information from various entities and then silencing them with NDAs has been particularly suspect for decades.

How does he get away with this MM.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep

I also can't keep up with Zondo. He seems to have his finger's in a lot of pies.

Perhaps Zondo……has not been working on his book as of late……perhaps he’s been prepping to testify in front of committee members in the public hearings next week…..Assuming he’s been invited to speak.

About Zondo and The Biggie Boys…..



👽🛸☕️🍩

originally posted by: peaceinoutz
Let's see what happens. But the problem is the Pentagon doesn’t have the capacity to end the ufo mystery.

Yes, but they have much more information than what they tell us.

And now with the cold war almost turning into a hot war, this issue will likely fade away.

I agree ... unfortunately
First the covid and now the cold war ... strange coincidence, all after the events of the TTSA and Bigelow
We are very unlucky ...

a reply to: mirageman

I seriously doubt America's government is capable of conducting such a cover-up on a worldwide scale. Which means it's a tiny issue confined to America or the US government really doesn't know if some UFOs represent something otherworldly or not.

What is truly universal is that people are 'seeing things' all around the world
to this very day. I mean, their dead grandma, elves, etc.

Now, if you want to characterize this as 'schizophrenia' or 'paraphrenia' ---- fine.

Sometimes this 'shizophrenia' or 'paraphrenia' causes 'poltergeist effects' and
is actually a much deeper topic than appears on the surface --- but fine..
I don't feel like arguing.

The point is, that this 'schizophrenia' is global, world-wide and goes back
to the very beginning of the human animal.

Let's even say that the US government might agree with this analysis,
I mean, Kit Green certainly does.. there's quotes from him about it..

That means there's nothing to know, and nothing to hide.

But one MIGHT 'weaponize this 'phenomenon'', even encourage it and
study it. ('mass insanity').

This is the most cynical treatment to the most meaningful thing
possible.. but it still gets the point made.

As for the classic cases of UFOs, another form of human ignorance,
the making of mythology is best explained by this delightful little
clip from another fake religion:

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: mirageman
Problem with Greer and Bassett was it was all lazy ufology. They started out with a parade of many of the usual UFO storytellers. On the surface it gave an air of authenticity to the topic. But when you dig deep there just isn't enough there to take the topic any further. Some folk rolled out are in ufology for ufotainment, personal fame and cash. Others set the bar low for what constitutes proof.
It also meant they could avoid inconvenient truths. Claim the American Government is hiding it from you. If the American Government denies, then you can claim you are vindicated and there is a cover-up.

I think Corso's book and Greer's Disclosure Project changed that. After these events, many countries opened "secret" archives, those archives that did not exist.
Bassett's Citizen Hearing on Disclosure led Clinton to talk about UFOs in the election campaign.
They are small achievements but today we have politicians who put pressure on the pentagon (the tail wagging the hog)
We have not achieved what we hoped for but we have made progress ...
This slow but continuous progress suggests that there is a huge problem behind the UFO theme

I seriously doubt America's government is capable of conducting such a cover-up on a worldwide scale. Which means it's a tiny issue confined to America or the US government really doesn't know if some UFOs represent something otherworldly or not.

All the countries have hidden the archives but only the US has tried to understand something.
It's a NATO issue, so the info goes to the US

Bigelow and his tactics of acquiring and squirreling away UFO information from various entities and then silencing them with NDAs has been particularly suspect for decades. Ably assisted by his media PR chum and the folks who surround him. Yet ufology gives him a free pass and no pressure is placed on him at all to 'disclose' why he does it and what he does with the information.

I would like to speak to Bigelow, Elizondo or others
Here in Milan there is a museum of medieval torture instruments, I'd like to see if they work

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

If it were an academic grant, then its pretty strange to play coy with the source

originally posted by: Magnificat
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

If it were an academic grant, then its pretty strange to play coy with the source

Not at all.

In the United States it's embarasing to academically study fringe topics.

Kev

huh, I hadn't read this link:

" Elizondo is already promoting a new company, PhenomAInon, which aims to monetize UFO data analysis with a subscription model, charging for access to UFO data from Robert Bigelow and To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science."

www.jasoncolavito.com...

This whole thing about monetizing ignorance is not much different
from the monitizing of ignorance about Non-Fungible Tokens.

I wish someone would cure cancer or something, and not just
prey on the rubes.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yep...interesting isn't it re Zondo. Not even sure can say that name!