Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

originally posted by: mirageman
I must have missed this earlier in the week because no one was harmed while presenting the award.

Zondo has won a (To the Stars) Academy Award for his millionth podcast appearance in less than a year. What's even more remarkable is that many of them had an audience almost equalling the number of participants on each podcast.

He also has won the DP award of the year which stands for Disinformation Peddler. They give this out yearly and Zondo has almost gotten as many, five, as Tom Brady has super bowl rings, seven. Zondo has won every year since 2017 which gives him 5 in a row.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Amazing achievement!!

Apparently he's taking a step back from the gruelling podcast circuit. Perhaps because he still hasn't started that book? Perhaps because the more he speaks, the less he really says? If he's really said anything of value beyond stirring up the sub-geniuses of the UFO Titter.

I really don't get how someone can allude to the things BF Lue does and be under a real NDA. It's obviously his excuse and 'get out' for answering awkward questions.

I am beginning to ponder if he's just a Walter Mitty type opportunist. Trying to become someone beyond his dreary desk job countering people's intelligence. With his patents, his pie in the sky (or sea!) Shipping Business ideas falling flat suddenly the Bigelow's Boys arrived and Zondo saw grifter gold.

Dirty Harry had arranged for the contracted $22m (and beyond) to go to his billionaire patron. They procured and repurposed previously written papers (many by Bigelow's own Vegas UFO Mafia) to pass off to the DIA while they went UFO hunting. Which wasn't really what they were contracted to do. Someone got whiff of it.

The hounds in the DoD began to circle, Harry Reid tried to cover it all up under a SAP. That was refused (Zondo being fully aware in his then role for the USDI). So he then took the remnants of the project under the moniker of AATIP under his own steam, but unfunded.

He collected military reports of UAP. UAS and balloons in US airspace. All without any assigned responsibility for doing so.In 2016 he'd already found a home to rent in Encinitas (near DeLonge's HQ). So knew full well he was leavng the DoD well before he's claimed he knew of DeLonge etc. Then when TTSA failed to achieved its objectives, no spaceship built, no disclosure and no money left he jumped ship again to become a social media influencer.

With a book deal in the bag and his role as a UFO guru secured. He's finally made it.

a reply to: mirageman

Some of those early UFO believers drank the snake oil,
and believe that it was magical.

(and later realized they were snake oil salesmen and woke up)

Other 'UFO believers' (intelligence operatives),
knew they were peddlying snake oil and never
believed in it, the entre time.

(but later some might start to believe the snake oil is real)

There's this endless transition for the old school and intelligence operatives.

A lot of 'outsiders' are just gullible.

There seems little doubt that Lue knew he was peddling snake oil from day one;
my only question is, does he now believe the snake oil is magical or not?

But in any case,

he's too stereotyped now.. he can't ever get another gig..

He has transformed himself into Nick Pope.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

But in any case, he's too stereotyped now.. he can't ever get another gig.. He has transformed himself into Nick Pope.

That's a very accurate observation, Kev.

As Abraham Lincoln said when he opened the first Superbowl along with the Beach Boys.

You can fool some of the people all of the time
You can even fool half of the people half of the time
But you can't fool Lue or the Papal at half time.

a reply to: mirageman

Very well said. And the lack of press inquiry about all the shade you mention is actually proof Ufology has no real popularity among the public. If it did you’d have 1000 investigatory articles in the MSM like the one (and only) from The Intercept. Save for a few podcasts that expose this scam, it’s no interest in it.

And the mainstream ufo groups NOT exposing this shows they are bankrupt.

The UFO briefings on Capitol Hill have begun. Lawmakers aren’t impressed

www.politico.com... www.politico.com...

The UFO briefings on Capitol Hill have begun. Lawmakers aren’t impressed

In other words, the pentagon’s response to UFOs is weak and lacks evidence of anything concrete about what the phenomenon is all about. The senators aren’t interested in ancient alien-type theories

So, ironically, all the hoopla behind TTSA and the phony government organization ATTIP IS A FRAUD LACKING any REAL EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING substantial as the thread here has always said.

I’ve always said that TTSA has brought nothing new, just the same old “we don’t know a thing about “UAPs.”
With the added threat idea in order to excite the US congress. But the same old WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL IT IS has enveloped the US CONGRESS SO WHAT’s THE POINT?

So, we are just where we were before this present TTSA scam and that is WE DONT KNOW A DAMN THING.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

But the Vegas UFO Mob have been haunted by poltergeists...and the phenomena is undetectable by our technology. So lack of evidence is actual evidence isn't it?

If there really has been such a terrible threat from outer space why is it only affecting America?

It's obvious that UFO culture and sci-fi have an influence across society. Politicians aren't always the smartest people either. So every generation the UFO topic reaches a certain pressure point in the corridors of power and investigations are demanded. But when things are looked at in detail there isn't a whole lot to go off once the misidentifications are eliminated. The weather balloon always bursts spilling out swamp gas down Capitol Hill.

And the American government gets accused of a cover-up again.....

a reply to: mirageman

Take out the government psyops being attempted,

and you get a 'wave' of societal angst,

that some are trying to enflame and profit from,

very similar to past ones..

'psychism'

'spiritualism'

'new agism'

There's ONE true thing at the very bottom of all that
#, that eats away at the personality of every
living person,

and they can't scratch the itch,

so those attempts at 'transcendance'

keep spilling out during times of stress.

This UFO crap is just the modern era's ouji boards
and spirit trumpets.

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

The vegas mob is doing better than the ttsa mob since the Skinwalker show is back on cable and the TTSA show is not.


So, it's all about ratings and ad money in the end not what’s the truth.

👽🛸☕️🍩

a reply to: peaceinoutz

This is the best clip I have ever seen:

Power is Power

It explains so much, so elegantly.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

This is better and more up to date
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: peaceinoutz

That "Prime changes everything?"

That's the meaning of life?

www.politico.com... www.politico.com...

You don't have to be so pessimistic, in 70 years I have never seen US politicians so involved in the UFO issue
It is the first time that pressure has been put on the Pentagon about UFOs

originally posted by: gippo888
.... in 70 years I have never seen US politicians so involved in the UFO issue
It is the first time that pressure has been put on the Pentagon about UFOs

There's been a few. Especially in the 1950s and 60s. But I somehow doubt you were around back then to remember.

Maybe you remember the GAO investigation into Roswell in the mid 1990s?

GAO Records Report on Crash Near Roswell NM

The Roswell Report: Fact versus Fiction in the New Mexico Desert

The Roswell Report: Case Closed

They produced reams of paperwork. After all of that there was really nothing there that they could find. It all pretty much dissolved from that reason alone...

A familiar story.

So I wouldn't put too much hope on America and its government this time around either.

a reply to: mirageman

If you can get someone to believe something, then you can control them.

So the fact that more people than usual have been taken advanage of,
is not a reason to rejoice, but a reason to go HMMMM!

Wanting to research a little red wagon is fine,

but yet again, the popular angst of this time is about the 'supposed contents'
of the wagon, not about what is real, how the mechanism of belief works.

originally posted by: mirageman
There's been a few. Especially in the 1950s and 60s. But I somehow doubt you were around back then to remember.

Distrust of the Pentagon has increased in recent years. I remember Hillary Clinton (2016) talking about the task force for information about UFO
I think in people's minds the Pentagon is the enemy of truth ...
I think the Pentagon must change its policy, it cannot continue like this
What we want will not happen but something has to happen ...

a reply to: gippo888

The problem is that what any of us think the Pentagon knows and won't reveal about the origin of UFOs could be entirely wrong. The truth we seek may not exist. Which allows personal biases and beliefs to be manipulated by the grifters, the cultists and the UFOtainers.

Plus of course this can't be solely an American issue controlled by Americans.

a reply to: mirageman

It's the same problem religion has; since 'god' is heresay
without any known appearances that can be verified,
anbody can make any claim about anything at any
time, including permission to kill in god's name.

UFOlogy is best understood in a cultural context of
societal control and purposeful grifting for personal
gain, just like religion.

They can desire to study ufos all they want, but even if there’s something to them they can’t find out what it is so the roiled-up obsession of TTSA isn’t going to do anything. They’ve had all kinds of projects already on ufos and still know nothing.

In fact, the very concept that the US government “secretly” was investigating ufos that came out n 2017 was a lie!

Just think, why would they do something in secret they’ve already done numerous times in the open.

This American public needs to get it through their thick skulls


AAWSAP WAS NOT A UFO STUDY!

ATTIP DIDN’T EXIST!