Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: peaceinoutz

..... on the ufotainment clown shows, this lie or, at best major distortion is like standard fair.

Too many of them now peddle straight up lies. Unfortunately, there are no standards and these people are lauded by their fans. Although in light of what is happening with Alex Jones it would be interesting to see if one or more UFO Celebrities are developing a twitch. Some of them have been lying for over 30 years!!

...I'm thinking about doing an OP :TTSA: The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly. Just doing basic research if I decide to do it.

Good luck with that. Even the origin and development of the Nimitz story is bizarre. Never mind all the incestuous links back to Big Bob and his goon squad. And we've still never had an answer (to my knowledge) of why TTSA employed 3 CIA neuroscientists on its advisory board. But there are too many other questions still left unanswered.

Looks like Skyfort didn't last long....



See recent filings

Don't agree with everything (and have no interest in Cayce) but some important info below about the potential Loeb psyop.


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a reply to: mirageman

No, I’m going to nix the OP; it's all been said here.

Skyfort? A new UAP creation. I hadn’t heard of that one.
TTSA has bred many of these cowboy, supposed “scientific” “UAP” clones of TTSA.

Like this one, they won’t last.

My idea of what they were doing with this TTSA is well known, as the Youtube, I posted above points out.

But one thing it did is excite many of these kinds of groups who, like Don Quixote ARE GOING TO ALL BY THEMSELVES SOLVE THIS GREAT UFO MYSTERY.

You see it all over the alternative media, and even a few, I'm sure, in the MSM. These newly inspired UFO geeks are popping up like jackrabbits all over the place, running the same lame spiel and LIES about ATTIP and UAP this and UAP that. It's pretty ridiculous.

The TTSA prop(TDL)--aganda has worked.

a reply to: mirageman

Ouch.
Demonstrates the difficulty of operating a "UAP business" when you don't have a gamut of high caliber staff who are willing to work on a deferred income basis and/or ready made CRADA's waiting to be signed.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Skyfort? A new UAP creation. I hadn’t heard of that one. ..

Perhaps you missed it last year? Zondo was on the advisory board. There was a report on it here : Skyfort Speaks

It's a fairly long piece but the gist of what Skyfort intended to do sounded like a Zondo soundbite.

... we clarified what Skyfort is intended to achieve. Asked about what problem Skyfort is designed to solve, they wrote:

Information flow and availability. Some call this a search for truth, some call it a process of hopeful discovery. We’re working tirelessly to facilitate dataflow, empower UAP activism and lead the charge in setting a de-stigmatized baseline for material and philosophical studies of UAP that keeps UAP front-and-center in our collective human discussion.

a reply to: Jukiodone

As I 've said a few times since 2017, if the whole circus is intended to bring about disclosure of whatever it's supposed to disclose then it's a psy-op.

If it's all about something else. Then it's a psy-op.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Isaac was knee deep in all of this. He seems quiet these days. Or maybe am not keeping up with all the UFO hoopla these days.

I'm still as deep into all of this as ever (probably deeper...). I just don't post here very much anymore and increasingly avoid any drama.

a reply to: mirageman

Zondos job now, as a USGOV contract agent, likely is to do whatever he can to destabilize these little new UAP-enthused groups popping up here and there.

Remember, Zondo was counter-intel, so since they don’t really want to study UFOs, they also will as much as they can destroy these silly UAP (mass propaganda created) by TTSA groups.


Of course, they have no fear that these groups( since neither they nor any government knows or is capable of knowing a damn thing about ufos) will find out anything.


They're known in psyop territory as blowback.

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Isaac was knee deep in all of this. He seems quiet these days. Or maybe am not keeping up with all the UFO hoopla these days.

I'm still as deep into all of this as ever (probably deeper...). I just don't post here very much anymore and increasingly avoid any drama.

I hear you.

That’s the proper attitude, IMO, if one is to seriously study the issue, bereft of drama, emotionalism, and phantasm with exotic interpretations.

“Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was a phrase made popular by Carl Sagan, who reworded Laplace's principle, which says that “the weight of evidence for an extraordinary claim must be proportioned to its strangeness”

Here is a video of two witnesses of the NIMITZ case who are sober and reliable witnesses. The lady said in one interview I saw the same thing the male witness says here. “I’m not a ufo guy.” They don’t put out any wild claims of ETs etc., as many witnesses are so prone to do.

Indeed, many of the past witnesses, too many of them, the Rendlesham incident, for instance, are too ready to cry ET, ET ship.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

According to Penniston of Rendlesham he does not cry out ET. He claims ourselves in the future.

a reply to: IsaacKoi

I'm still as deep into all of this as ever (probably deeper...). I just don't post here very much anymore and increasingly avoid any drama

Ok Isaac at least you are looking in somewhat.

The subject is of course very deep.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: peaceinoutz

According to Penniston of Rendlesham he does not cry out ET. He claims ourselves in the future.

I heard that, and that guy had the binary download. That's even more fantastic than a straight-up ET craft.
On Josh Gates's Expedition Unknown, Halt called it an ET craft, which I think is the latest he has spoken.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Am well aware of Halts take. All of them differ and huge amount of shenanigans involved in the case also. The binary is still very much alive and well though.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz

Here is a video of two witnesses of the NIMITZ case who are sober and reliable witnesses. The lady said in one interview I saw the same thing the male witness says here. “I’m not a ufo guy.” They don’t put out any wild claims of ETs etc., as many witnesses are so prone to do.

If we unpack that sighting - you cant help but note the only observable reported by the witnesses to determine solidity (or mass) of the tic tac was its perceived opacity to light.

Every other indicator the tic tac had mass/was solid (sonic boom, vapor trails, atmospheric heating, fluid eddy etc etc) was absent.

Unless we concede all other thermodynamic interactions were somehow cancelled/masked by the tic tac during its acceleration - the absolute best explanation is beamed energy.

We obviously dont understand the capabilities of beamed energy but this distant cousin of exactly what Puthoff, Justice, LM, the Navy and co are all talking around seems to have some interesting applications.

patents.google.com...

matterwave projectiles and missiles, directed energy weapons, matterwave optics and cloaking, matterwave emission and propulsion, matterwave solitons, high-energy collision, high precision matter optics, atomic clocks, tests of physics constants

a reply to: Jukiodone

Big Friendly Lue's job was once, and maybe still is to some extent, in "aerospace technology protection".

a reply to: Jukiodone

Maybe.

Overall, the tic-tac seems to be a legit UFO. I admit that, but the whole picture: tic-tac (the strange way it was exposed), TTSA/Military propaganda outfit, and AAWSAP/ATTIP media disinformation all amount to serious problems with this whole affair.

What is strange when you analyze everything is the UFO itself, IMO, NOT the propaganda behind it, which( check out the videos I posted above) is typical pedestrian MIC shenanigans and exploitation of their tradecraft and typical abuse of the naive American public.

www.reuters.com...

"Nuclear documents".

Trump never struck me as a mad scientist, or a forintel agent, or a potential Monty Burns (Trump Nuclear Inc.??).
Whatever could he want with "Nuclear Documents"

a reply to: Jukiodone

ETA: Just clicked back on the link and the article has been edited to "documents relating to nuclear weapons" from "Nuclear Documents".

Lots of things might relate to nuclear weapons if you're using a method or theory that falls into "born secret" secrecy laws.

originally posted by: mirageman
Looks like Skyfort didn't last long....

See recent filings

there weren’t enough enough sky-indians to fight apparently.