Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

originally posted by: Slyder12

These guys were practicing there all the time getting radar contact and sometimes visual contact and couldn't identify.

The Navy says they didn't try and contact the Uap's....highly doubt that. They would have tryed to establish radio contact on either freq associated with the MOA, controlling agency or on guard.

I've wondered about the very same thing. They were there all the time. Someone must have wondered if anyone had bothered to try to communicate with them (the UAPs, I mean). Were they (pilots) told not to? I ask because I simply don't know, and I am likely just missing that bit.

What do you suppose they got back, presuming that someone up or down the line did try to comm with the objects? I kinda think it would have sounded like a high-speed modem, or some funky oscillator.

a reply to: Latro

If you did encounter a none human technology displaying capabilities suggestive of a working TOE/UFT- probably best not to direct any energy at it!

There are terrestrial systems which have aggressive countermeasures for unwanted directed energy and other ones that can even detect whether a lens (manufactured or biological) is "looking" at it.

I've still not seen any proper evidence for such NHI craft - but it would make sense that if such things do exist- those responsible for managing the issue would try to minimise interactions with aviators due to the unknown unknowns.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: peaceinoutz


I heard there was a new comedy series about the whole genesis of TTSA in the pipeline....

#Cast subject to availability and change.

A comedic review of the last 5 years in the style of "The Office" - set within the DoD and TTSA should happen.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: peaceinoutz


I heard there was a new comedy series about the whole genesis of TTSA in the pipeline....

#Cast subject to availability and change.

That's funny, but the real deal is this. I don’t want to do the graphics thing with pictures of the pope and archbishops, but the real thing is Bigelow is the pope of the new UAP religion. Knapp, Lazar, Puthoff, Zondo, and TDL are the bishops, and the priests are Nick Pope, Linda Howe, the AA theorists, Richard Dolan, and others.

Doty is the devil and the other disbelievers.

I don't want this forum to be infested by Murican politics like many others are.

But woah!

Is Bob Bigs showing his true political colours?

Space entrepreneur Robert Bigelow donated $10 million to the reelection campaign of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday, according to the Friends of Ron DeSantis committee.

DeSantis snags $10M donation from entrepreneur who said aliens were on earth

a reply to: Jukiodone

"I've still not seen any proper evidence for such NHI craft".

Would these craft necessarily be of NHI origin? I personally think that they are not.

Hey, would you be so kind? What are "TOE/UFT"? Thanks.

What I've always disliked about TTSA, or now TTS, is when they first came out and implicitly claimed to be about disclosure.

And the related myth always going around in UFO circles of the SAP programs. Supposedly these have hidden within that protocol secretive alien powers of the US government. They can take ET home, that kind of crap.

We must always look at the EVIDENCE, not these screwball no-proof theories by ufologists.

And the evidence shows they cant take ET to a Yankee home game, let alone to outer space to take ET home.

And there is no disclosure in sight, and SAP programs have NOT gotten any alien technology.

And lastly, we are not much better at knowing much about ufos than the first modern appearance of them in 1947.

a reply to: Latro

NHI was contextualised for the previous posters comments of pilot safety.
Agreed- there is no proper evidence for NHI's doing a clumsy recon. of Earth.


TOE: Theory Of Everything
UFT: Unified Field Theory.

If someone has technology which unites GR and Quantum Mechanics - this is when the type of characteristics alleged in the "5 observables" become easier to sensibly rationalise.
NHI/Human/Leprechaun- if they are an object with mass displaying the 5 observables - they likely cracked UFT and you dont want to piss them off.

Elizondo is a contractor for the Space Force.!!

Space Enforcer Elizondo said...

Ever since I was a young boy of 39 years of age I have dreamt of this. If only to get into the exta-large spacesuit I purchased. It was a bit tight around the stomach and buttocks originally. But now thanks to me 'contracting', I have found enough space to force myself into it...

The Real Story Here...

a reply to: mirageman

So.....err......what's he doing for them?
Should we expect more counter intelligence- but this time- space force orientated?

Perhaps he'll become their public spokesperson then him and Gough will go at it in a battle of the Psy. Op. operators.

I like Lue (in terms of if you had pick one of "them" to be stuck in a lift with....) but "freelance lying expert for hire" is a terrible CV synopsis when you're supposed to be a patriot working to reveal govt. ineptitude.

a reply to: Jukiodone

It's not clear. Liberation Times is hardly what I'd call a reputable news source.

But it all suggests BF Lue never really stopped working for government.

Elizondo indicated that he, Chris Mellon, and Steve Justice would leave TTSA on Dec 21, 2020

Exactly a year before that was the so-called space force created on Dec 20 2019

Mission accomplished


BTW, with a budget of Space Force's $24.5 billion

a reply to: peaceinoutz

And there is no disclosure in sight, and SAP programs have NOT gotten any alien technology.

And lastly, we are not much better at knowing much about ufos than the first modern appearance of them in 1947.

And the National Security Act of 1947 made sure we'll never know, whatever you choose to believe.

a reply to: Insurrectile

You'll get no argument out of me on that one.




Of course, the Space Force may feel different

They must now look for the alien threat, all 24 billion-plus worth.

Soooo....this Sean Kirkpatrick guy who's heading up AARO.
Perfect guy for the job with his DIA/CIA background ......and ooh look....his PhD was focused on non linear phonon dynamics within crystals.

Given that the Quasi-crystal/Metamaterial theme runs so strongly through much of the existing lore (from Fouche to Bearden to Pais)- one cant help but wonder if this perfect fit candidate is in fact there to stop the cat getting fully out of its bag.

a reply to: Jukiodone

Yes indeed they appear to have created Schrodingers Bag for that cat.

On July 15, 2022, Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks...amended her original direction to the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence & Security by renaming and expanding the scope of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Group (AOIMSG) to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)...

Today, USD(I&S) Hon. Ronald S. Moultrie informed the department of the establishment of AARO within the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, and named Dr. Sean M. Kirkpatrick, most recently the chief scientist at the Defense Intelligence Agency's Missile and Space Intelligence Center, as the director of AARO.

The mission of the AARO will be to synchronize efforts across the Department of Defense, and with other U.S. federal departments and agencies, to detect, identify and attribute objects of interest in, on or near military installations, operating areas, training areas, special use airspace and other areas of interest, and, as necessary, to mitigate any associated threats to safety of operations and national security. This includes anomalous, unidentified space, airborne, submerged and transmedium objects.

The AARO Executive Council (AAROEXEC), led by Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence & Security (USD(I&S)) Ronald Moultrie, will provide oversight and direction to the AARO along these primary lines of effort:

US DoD press release

Zondo's previous roles included protecting aerospace technology and Rocket man Jim was the nutter who claimed saw Tubular Bells at Big Bob's Ranch. Seems like there is a pattern here.


Meanwhile in the latest episode of Space Farce, Zondo goes to work for the first time in his new job.

a reply to: mirageman

Talk of the devil. I even see Nick Pope in your latest.

Philip Mantles having another go at the man. Lol.

Still waiting for Zondos book???

FAA Releases Near Miss Reports That Reference UFOs/UAP

www.theblackvault.com...

We must realize that TTSA has been at least a harbinger of a new UFO acceptance era. For better or worse, we have to acknowledge that.

Whatever UFOs are? God or the devil or something in between or apart, it’s a fact that we have entered a new era of acceptance.

That in itself is significant. What it means and the motive behind it is to be determined.

originally posted by: peaceinoutz

We must realize that TTSA has been at least a harbinger of a new UFO acceptance era. For better or worse, we have to acknowledge that.

Good point there but in reality absolutely nobody gives a toss (or absolutely nobody believes them).

If they do believe them they better believe they are dealing with professional liars.

a reply to: karl 12

My thing against them, is not as ordinary pedestrian ufo believers but the lie about disclosure. Maybe as Vallee said, the only thing they can disclose is their ignorance