Corona Virus Updates Part 6

a reply to: McGinty
Thank you.
Rainbows
Jane

Latest news from Italy.

Today the Gov spoke of starting a run of 3rd booster jabs to keep up with, and possibly anticipate, new Covid variants.

So, an additional dose for the elderly and frail before the end of the year. Then, from January, a progressive campaign for everyone, based on when someone was initially vaxxed. I believe they are looking at a six month time frame from 1st jab.

Also, the plan is to systematically eliminate restrictions. First, social distancing, then masks and finally, easing the Green Pass requirements. They hope that normality can return once we hit 90% vaccinations of the population.

At the moment we're at 86% with at least one shot and 82% fully vaxxed.

We shall see... I'm not holding my breath.

update for Belgium

Things went back to normal over here on October 1st. They told the people that the vaccines worked, they didn't have to wear a mask or keep distance, everything opened up as before for those with a Covid pass.

20 days later it became clear that a 4th wave was rushing in and today, 26 days later, restrictions are back in place.

They keep insisting that the vax does work... and there will be no booster shots until further notice from the WHO.

At this point they say there will be no more lock downs but we'll see about that.

So going back to April 29th 264.47 million people were fully vaccinated. On April 30 270.37 million

So the ranks of the not fully vaccinated are swelling by 6 million today.
In the next 21 days 100 million people become ineligible for a vax passport benefits.

Still can't see how the world is supposed to vaccinated everyone, all 8 billion in 6 months, then start again.

Seems like the chemical company has another dangerous drug that should be prevent from being anywhere near non-depressed people who might get a covid-19 reaction i.e. not a SARS-COV-2 infection but arriving at hospital with serious symptoms.



Failure to stop the non-depressed from getting sick enough to be admitted by 32%.
That is far to much revenue to lose by allowing the use of this cheap drug.

( love Dr Been's comment regarding the CNN report not being complete, as it appears the Vet had the day off. )

The absolute risk reduction (ARR), which is the difference between attack rates with and without a vaccine, considers the whole population. ARRs tend to be ignored because they give a much less impressive effect size than RRRs: 1·3% for the AstraZeneca–Oxford, 1·2% for the Moderna–NIH, 1·2% for the J&J, 0·93% for the Gamaleya, and 0·84% for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccines.

source

So randomly searching found this from 2014

Issue: Jan 2014

Turn Off the Cytokine Switch
A biochemical “switch” that turns on many of the chronic diseases of aging has been uncovered. Known as HMGB1, this molecule triggers the release of cytokines—a collection of chemical signals—that generate inflammation in your body. In a hospital setting, researchers have shown that mung bean seed coat and green tea extract counteract HMGB1, safely quelling acute inflammation before it becomes chronic.

Scientifically reviewed by: Dr. Gary Gonzalez, MD, on February 2020. Written By Morris Eagleton.

source

seems like I have some good researching and information reading to catch up on over some mung bean and green tea snacks

a reply to: puzzled2

Great find!

Makes you wonder if research into clever ways of tuning down cytokine release would simultaneously reveal clever ways of tuning up cytokine release.

a reply to: McGinty

I am coming around to the opinion that there might not even have been a virus, everything we have been told is from a controlled source. The flu was rebranded. The vax seems to be the delta, and everyone they seem to test if it fits the narrative is positive but has no symptoms but has to quarantine anyway. What on earth has your vax status got to do with your bank account anyway. listen to this.In Victoria, if you want to get your money from the bank this guy reckons you have to have it now. www.bitchute.com...

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2
Ok, so not to be a 'Debbie Downer' but a new variant has reared it's head, and it doesn't look good.

Meet AY.4.2 aka Delta4-2.

It was 4th or 5th in the list yesterday.
It's already at nearly 9% of cases in the UK in what would seem to be about 2 months.

That means that the vaccine probably isn't going to prevent anything, if not a bad outcome.
The numbers over here have plateau'd, and are starting to go up again.
I hope the Delta4-2 doesn't become widespread, because it will be worse than Delta4, which is doing really, really good.

It would be our 5th wave, over here.

As a reply to Butcherguy and Mcginty,
One of my colleagues was feeling a temp on sunday, went to see the Doc on monday, had a hell's own job to get a covid test (you have to pay here now if you don't have a prescription), and only got one the next day because our companies were right up his arse about it.
We had a lot of people prepared to have to isolate if he was positive.
They just don't seem to be giving tests that easily any more...seems weird to me too.

Anyway, delta4-2 is possibly a b!tch, maybe just infectious and not deadly, but only time will tell.
Better safe than sorry.

edit : Link to List Page

Hi MB, do you have an update on this list please? The link in that post doesn't seem to be working now.

Many thanks 👍🏼

a reply to: Albert999



Here you go
Some days its craps out for a while.

Delta4-2 is now in 2nd place as of yesterday I think.
It had dipped a bit a couple of days ago, but that was just a hiccup by the looks of it.

It's still got a way to go before it takes over from the original Delta4.

The Forbes Guy has a new article intitled "The Growing Threat Of The Delta Pluses At Home And Abroad" Link.

It's a short article mentioning how the AY.4.2 is doing it's best in Europe, and AY.33.1 is doing the same, but for the NE of the USA.

One of the Pics from the article, itself from the Financial Times :

a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

Well if this thing gets any faster at spreading we will all be back to normal or dead within the month.

Going to have to run out of new cases soon - suppose they will just count everyone who dies as with Covid.
Few weeks ago 12,500+ people died in the UK but only the 820 Covid deaths made the newspapers.

a reply to: puzzled2

It only takes one bad strain, and we're giving it millions of chances.


With this many cases, we're still in the probability that a bad one will happen, until it stops mutating, or just goes away.

edit :
It probably already has, just been 'not right' to spread effectively, and petered out.
There needs to be a fine balance between spread, and effectiveness, and also incubation time.

originally posted by: MonkeyBalls2
a reply to: Albert999

Here you go

Some days its craps out for a while.

Delta4-2 is now in 2nd place as of yesterday I think.
It had dipped a bit a couple of days ago, but that was just a hiccup by the looks of it.

It's still got a way to go before it takes over from the original Delta4.

Thank you 👌🏼

Just some updates, we have all started getting our booster shots. 3rd shot of either Pfizer or Moderna with no negative impacts. Similar to the second dose just not as severe because of the smaller dose. I’ll post when I get mine later this week or next week too.

Starting to get busy with imaging COVID patients, unsure of exact data but I’m guessing 50/50 vaccinated and unvaccinated. Keep in mind these are not healthy people, obese, metabolic syndrome, BMI over 30-35, diabetes, cancers, genetic issues, atherosclerosis, cardiac issues. It is going after blood vessels, the heart, the GI tract, clotting, neurological issues and obviously the lungs. Secondary infection seems to be a major driver, that is a second infection occurring because of exposure to a bacterial pathogen that then overpowers the immune response because the system is exhausted. Mostly T-cells would be my guess with immature granulocytes being released as a last resort with complement proteins wiping the patient. Sepsis and acidosis with clotting are the end stage consequences.

But the vaccinated do seem to last much longer, a month or so seems to be common. Fastest I’ve seen with no vaccine is 6 days recently.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

But the vaccinated do seem to last much longer, a month or so seems to be common. Fastest I’ve seen with no vaccine is 6 days recently.

Context? Do you mean they are ill much longer, or?

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

We get limited reports on time of admission, time of death, intubation, extubation, and other information like vaccination status, secondary infection etc. Our goal is to learn about where the organ system failure begins and use that data in living patients eventually before it happens. Plus it helps the autopsy team focus in a patient with inflammation everywhere.

Using that we can see how long they are in the hospital. So the vaccine is helping them get through COVID and they are in the hospital for a month or two before dying from damage, secondary infection, or sometimes SARS-CoV-2 just never going away. The unvaccinated is days or weeks and it is very much COVID that wipes them.

That’s why I mention how unhealthy they are because that does have a major impact here. Although we do sometimes get the rare healthy person going down and it seems to be hospital acquired infections or an undiagnosed issue that gets them once we image.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Thanks. I understand now what you meant by "much longer".

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Yeah and keep in mind this doesn’t happen in most people either. The vaccine doesn’t cause permanent issues in most just like COVID won’t. But we still need to be cautious and not force this thing until the research is finished.

I know I have seen this sort of thing stated in multiple places from multiple sources recently, concerning whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus actually even exists. For instance: www.abovetopsecret.com...

True or false?