Corona Virus Updates Part 5

originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: tetra50

We have a somewhat similar terrorism act they did here in Australia. Never a good sign when rulers take more power, they have a long history of not giving it back to the people.

Hey primalfractal:
I think I've made this exact point several times already. It doesn't matter anymore, tho, I don't think. And I've posted all the reasons, links, that make me think that way. Wish we weren't at this particular cusp, but it appears we are. These issues were prepared in advance, as we see now much of this path was paved heretofor.
stay safe,
tetra

a reply to: Bicent

CONCIDERING this is a shtf event, we may see some wild stuff in the cities. Your lucky to be on that island

Our resources are highly limited, you understand, and there are a million people on this island.

But in general I do consider myself lucky to live here.

French Air Force moves coronavirus patients to ease overcrowded hospitals

Airlifts will transport patients in critical condition from the city of Mulhouse in eastern France to the Aquitaine region in the west, according to a statement from the French Ministry of Armed Forces. The number of coronavirus patients in Mulhouse has spiked since the start of March. As of Friday afternoon, 1,551 people had been hospitalized in the Grand Est region, where the city is situated. Of the total, 352 are in intensive care and nearly 9% are under the age of 60.

www.cnn.com... ource=twCNNi

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bicent

CONCIDERING this is a shtf event, we may see some wild stuff in the cities. Your lucky to be on that island

Our resources are highly limited, you understand, and there are a million people on this island.

But in general I do consider myself lucky to live here.

About now, I think we should all consider ourselves lucky to live anywhere, and hope for the best.
regards....

originally posted by: primalfractal
a reply to: tetra50

We have a somewhat similar terrorism act they did here in Australia. Never a good sign when rulers take more power, they have a long history of not giving it back to the people.

It is a trend which has become all too common in many countries since 911.
Whenever anything bad happens,it is the go to answer of Britain/Aus/USA and others-lets grab some more rights off the people,when they are least likley to complain about it and when it seems appropriate.

A suspicious minded person may start to believe that our so called democracies are not really all that keen on democracy.
I mean it all sounds nice,but wouldn't it be easier if the government just dictated what they demand of us?
That seems to be their mentality sadly.

Its amazing what we have let them get away with in recent years IMO.

a reply to: CX

Wow... yeah, that is one powerful video. That's what needs to be pumped through the speakers every night, not Boris Johnson or anyone else. Serious dose of reality. Make it play before any netflix show...

Herd immunity... honestly, what a sh1t show. Thank you for sharing.

REPEATING THE LINK

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - Starting Thursday, all visitors and returning residents to Hawaii will be required to complete a mandatory, 14-day quarantine to stop the spread of coronavirus in the islands. Gov. David Ige announced the new measure Saturday in a news conference at the state Capitol. “We need to come together as a community to fight this virus,” Ige said. “This mandate is the first of its kind in the nation. We want this action to send the message to visitors and residents alike that we appreciate their love for Hawaii but we are asking them to postpone their visit.”

Ige institutes 14-day mandatory quarantine for all incoming visitors, returning residents


FLORIDA CASES

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I dunno....maybe I'm just getting into a negative funk, but as I look at the government(s) responding to this, I'm getting a really bad feeling. Not even considering how hard our economy is going to crash down with everything closed, the bailout that big companies could get, the number of people that will be on unemployment, etc. As soon as I started hearing that they all might easily agree with sending citizens money to give us a hand....I mean come on....normally you would have to pry that money from their cold dead hands! I just get the feeling that they already know this virus (or something else they are hiding) is going to end us. I mean....why else would they be ok with the fallout of all this? It's like they know it won't matter in the end.

a reply to: JourneyAbout

Do you mean like sending out millions of checks that no one will be around to cash?

originally posted by: schmae
a reply to: JourneyAbout

Do you mean like sending out millions of checks that no one will be around to cash?

Maybe, or that their won't be anyone here to worry about paying it back anyway.

I've been keeping up daily since page one of this thread....I'm either starting to see a bigger picture...or I need a break!

a reply to: JourneyAbout

Nah you see it. Your Getting out of the pandemonium.

Bloomberg @business · 32m An inmate at a federal jail in New York City has tested positive for coronavirus, marking the first confirmed case in the federal prison system (via@AP)

twitter.com...

originally posted by: saladfingers123456
a reply to: CX

Wow... yeah, that is one powerful video. That's what needs to be pumped through the speakers every night, not Boris Johnson or anyone else. Serious dose of reality. Make it play before any netflix show...

Herd immunity... honestly, what a sh1t show. Thank you for sharing.

REPEATING THE LINK

Rather sobering hopefully people take heed.

Hawaii up 11 more to 48. 38 on Oahu.

originally posted by: pasiphae
Coronavirus Can Live in Patients for Five Weeks After Contagion

Patients with the new coronavirus keep the pathogen in their respiratory tract for as long as 37 days, a new study found, suggesting they could remain infectious for many weeks. In yet another sign of how difficult the pandemic may be to contain, doctors in China detected the virus’s RNA in respiratory samples from survivors for a median of 20 days after they became infected, they wrote in an article published in the Lancet medical journal.

www.bloomberg.com... id=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_source=twitter&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social

There was an article or on tv forgot which one, but I posted it. The virus can be up to 42 days and then shtf. For those of you following, you probably remember my post. So 37 days to 42 days is real. Much of this will be backed up for those on the stranded cruise ships at the moment.
Everyone is talking about 15 days, in my opinion that is entirely wrong. In this country, I really believe in about 15 more days ( my thinking only, can't call this street talk, but it may just coincide with an announcement of the Tokyo Olympics ) which would put it right up there to 37 days based upon a few factors. So what will that mean, maybe many more people will fall ill . The Hokkaido Chinese lady and how it spread so rapidly. I don't have the time figures, but I would think my early on post would show an accurate time frame. Either way, I wish they (govt and other people ) quit this 15 days BS. What is known, a person after being infected for 3.4 hours can start infecting others. It makes since the 37 to 42 day thing if you think about it. But keep in mind this is not 100% per case of the infected either. I think Hawaii would be a good example. One Japanese left Hawaii infected, this was a while back and now look at the infection rate in Hawaii.

originally posted by: JourneyAbout
I look at the government(s) responding to this
considering how hard our economy is going to crash
normally you would have to pry that money from their cold dead hands
this virus (or something else they are hiding) is going to end us

You hit all the salient points.

What The Establishment fears is an uprising of the people. People are madder'n Hell. They just haven't self-reflected on that ... but they will once they've missed 9 meals. They'll deal with The Elite the way they know how when it gets down to it. Anyone who has ever done anything corrupt (and their entire family) is apt to be suddenly snuffed-out.

Why do you think all those billionaires purchased island-based real estate ... recently?

a reply to: JourneyAbout

Yep.
I mean, they didn't build these underground bases for nothing. I know they are real as I've met old friends who have worked in them on very strict non disclosure agreements. Whispers. If it isn't for an event like this... then what?
Are we waiting for something bigger?? The only thing that will top this off is when the war narrative plays out with the blame game, "china virus" etc... news stories slipped in between corona soundbites about testing hypersonic missiles... N Korea doing missile tests... It feels like a big mess out there.
Hypersonic missile test off Kauai aimed at countering Russia, China

I'm sorry to say that I don't think that you are far wrong, sadly. But it might not be what you think. Maybe they see their future vanishing out of view.

I guess we'll get a clearer picture as the days progress. The virus is enough to think about right now.
I still maintain that this is the turning of the age... and the physical realm isn't actually the main reality. It just feels like it while you're in it.
Certainly don't lose hope though, governments aren't actually the important part of humanity, as much as they'd like everyone to believe it. I think we're on the cusp of finding ourselves again. We've been in this stink for way too long.

I have seen the other posts about people showing up to beaches, etc.

Here in Canada, we had our local conservation areas close down as people were completely disregarding any health advice and refused to distance from each other.

Droves of people showed up at the parks.

... some people were lighting fires for group barbecues and hot-dog cooking, Basit told CBC News — despite signs stressing the need for social distancing.

"We had no choice but to close [the parks] today," Basit said, The five parks that remained open closed indefinitely as of 3 p.m.

What could have been a healthy outlet for people - hiking in the open, had they done so at a good distance, is now ruined because people just don’t care.

www.cbc.ca...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bicent

Which means containment is impossible.

Once the level of infection reaches a critical point, I would think.

Testing does provide more information about how the disease spreads, but that's for later. Not a priority now.

Testing is for more than that. It also serves to know how to treat the patient. And to know if to isolate the patient... imagine this: Hay doc, i have fever and flu like symptoms and need hospitalization... Oh ok, take a bed here near the this person that has x condition. What if the patient had coronavvirus????

Or this other situation.. Same as before, but he doesn't have coronavirus, just a severe pneumonia or something with similar symptoms... Oh come here, you have coronavirus, lets put you with the rest of them... Result. patient dies because he contracted coronavirus while he had a severe pneumonia.....

On March 10, Natasha Ott, 39, felt the beginnings of a cold coming on.

She had a slight fever. CrescentCare, the medical clinic where she worked, had only a handful of tests for the new strain of coronavirus on hand. She initially passed on the chance to take one, after being told she was low-risk for the serious disease.

When her symptoms didn't shake, she did take the test on Monday. By Thursday, she felt "something in her lungs," she told longtime partner Josh Anderson. But she still felt well enough by then to join Anderson as the pair walked her dog.

On Friday, Anderson found Ott dead in her kitchen.

Her test results have still not come back. The Orleans Parish Coroner's Office has not released a cause of death; state health officials have not said whether they believe it was a case of coronavirus.

www.nola.com...

I have been watching the US numbers, every day the critical cases in the ICU stay at a steady number of 64 cases, yet every day a couple dozen or so people die. That means that people are dying in their homes without treatment, trying to shrug this off and are later found dead, then later tested.

This is very sad..