Corona Virus Updates Part 3

Lancet: Pathological findings of COVID-19 associated with acute respiratory distress syndrome [PDF]

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Our results imply that overactivation of T cells, manifested by increase of Th17 and high cytotoxicity of CD8 T cells, accounts for, in part, the severe immune injury in this patient. X-ray images showed rapid progression of pneumonia and some differences between the left and right lung.

In addition, the liver tissue showed moderate microvascular steatosis and mild lobular activity, but there was no conclusive evidence to support SARS-CoV-2 infection or drug-induced liver injury as the cause.

There were no obvious histological changes seen in heart tissue, suggesting that SARS-CoV-2 infection might not directly impair the heart.

Although corticosteroid treatment is not routinely recommended to be used for SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia, according to our pathological findings of pulmonary oedema and hyaline membrane formation, timely and appropriate use of corticosteroids together with ventilator support should be considered for the severe patients to prevent ARDS development.

Lymphopenia is a common feature in the patients with COVID-19 and might be a critical factor associated with disease severity and mortality.

Our clinical and pathological findings in this severe case of COVID-19 can not only help to identify a cause of death, but also provide new insights into the pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2-related pneumonia, which might help physicians to formulate a timely therapeutic strategy for similar severe patients and reduce mortality

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originally posted by: pasiphae

originally posted by: Oleman
a reply to: pasiphae

- Diamond Princess: 3700 people cases: 454 = 12.3% deaths: 0 = 0% serious: 19 = 0.51% recovered: 17 = 0.46%

They haven’t tested all 3700 passengers. Only 1700... which makes the % more like 26%

On one hand, they are likely testing people who show symptoms, so the untested have a bias toward not infected.
On the other hand, with only 0.46% recovered, only time will tell if they recover or go serious.
The 0% deaths part is encouraging.

From what the couple on the ship who did an interview said.... they were testing in age groups. The oldest first. So no, they are not testing just those who have symptoms.

Also those that are diabetic got testing first. It is well known now that any passengers that may be on cancer drugs are at high risk. So people if you are on cancer drugs, try to stay indoors as much as possible.

a reply to: musicismagic

Just noticed the trees are green, and it’s winter time ahem..


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originally posted by: GlobalGold
The flight to California: The aircraft that went to Travis Air Force Base carried 177 people, he said on a briefing call today. Seven of those people “had isolated coronavirus positive,”and an additional three were isolated during the flight because of fever. These three people were not virus positive by test.
"isolated coronavirus positive" - that's a new term I haven't heard before
via CNN
maybe it just meant they were isolated because they were corona virus positive

here we go again... the medical team on the flight used what test ? evidently the test for coronavirus for 7 people on the evacuation flight

the other 3 person, with symptoms of high fever... are likely being administered medicines for relieving the Lungs from the COVID19 stress...or a different ailment than Coronavirus the other 7 are infected with....

see....the 7 persons with the virus had positive test results, the 3 others that later had high fevers did not test positive for the virus,,, What Gives ?? the test kits for coronavirus are useless for testing for CoviD (disease)…
so the medical team on the flight to USA had only 1 type of test kit for 3 distinct types of afflictions -> ergo
how do we trust the infections/test results/deaths/recovery stats ?


we got a deliberate cluster F**** going on, buried under mountains of minutia, useless data,spin, intentional confusion about the diseases/contaminations/and quarantines


Encia22 has a post 4 slots down that says

Yep, gambling with life and reducing it to a game of craps! Roll the dice and take your chances.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: Rich Z
Definitely. Public restrooms are a double edge sword, needing them to wash hands, but breathing in air after someone just unloaded could get you sick. The odor you are smelling are small particles of fecal matter that could have the virus on it. I have seen places with a wash sink for hands out separate of the restroom but those are rare.

health.howstuffworks.com...

I don't think Americans have woke up to that fact yet. Its dangerous as all heck. I wonder how they are going to test the waste in the portal toilets on the 2 airplanes for the virus. That would be interesting to find out.

originally posted by: roflhoff
a reply to: Violater1

Apologies... conclusively debunked perhaps not, but the paper that caused the initial furor was retracted.

Your talking about the bioRxiv paper, “Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag” www.biorxiv.org...
that James Gomes, Prashant Pradhan, Ashutosh Kumar Pandey, Akhilesh Mishra, Parul Gupta, Praveen Kumar Tripathi, Manoj Balakrishnan Menon, Perumal Vivekanandan, and Bishwajit Kundu, all of Kusuma School of biological sciences, Indian institute of technology, New Delhi, India, risked their accedemic carriers to put forth a study that implicates the HIV in the CoVID19 (2019-nCoV). Much like Dr. Li Wenliang first identified the virus in Wuhan, capital of Hubei province in China. He was forced to retract his statement also. He later died.

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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: tanstaafl
Unfortunately you are incorrect.

Why 'unfortunately'?

They raised the mandatory retirement ages over the last decade. It’s currently 55 for women and 60 for men. It will increase over the next 20 years to match current US retirement ages.

Ok - but it is still mandatory, not voluntary. And obviously this was the result of their one child policy, which I believe they recently changed too.

They raised the age because not enough young people paying into the system.

That was my main point. By killing off the older 'useless eaters', they alter the ratio of young to old dramatically, thereby engaging a shortcut to 're-setting' the system to viability. Brutal yes, heartless yes, but effective.

While I fully believe they would cull their older people. This is not the way I feel they would go about it. Family ties are very strong In China.

For the average population, maybe, but for the CCP in general? You believe they give a crap about family ties? Xi turned in his own father, for goodness sake.

Lots of people here are relying on data showing only old people die, however there’s many videos of perfectly healthy younger people with the virus getting it. And frankly we cannot trust anything CCP says. For all we know perfectly healthy young Chinese people could’ve dying in droves and we wouldn’t know.

Gee like now.

Yeah, and likewise, those videos could be of something totally different.

You're right, we don't know...

First poster here....tinfoil hat on.

So, it was discussed that china raised the child cap to 2. What if...they planned to bolster the population, then used this to cull the older and weak. Think about it, they would be left with a sizable population of younger, healther people than can be put to work...further bolstering their economy after the dust settles. They would be stronger overall after a few years....

Too much green leafs on those trees for this time of the winter... Hummmmm

originally posted by: St Udio

originally posted by: GlobalGold
The flight to California: The aircraft that went to Travis Air Force Base carried 177 people, he said on a briefing call today. Seven of those people “had isolated coronavirus positive,”and an additional three were isolated during the flight because of fever. These three people were not virus positive by test.
"isolated coronavirus positive" - that's a new term I haven't heard before
via CNN
maybe it just meant they were isolated because they were corona virus positive

here we go again... the medical team on the flight used what test ? evidently the test for coronavirus for 7 people on the evacuation flight

the other 3 person, with symptoms of high fever... are likely being administered medicines for relieving the Lungs from the COVID19 stress...or a different ailment than Coronavirus the other 7 are infected with....

see....the 7 persons with the virus had positive test results, the 3 others that later had high fevers did not test positive for the virus,,, What Gives ?? the test kits for coronavirus are useless for testing for CoviD (disease)…
so the medical team on the flight to USA had only 1 type of test kit for 3 distinct types of afflictions -> ergo
how do we trust the infections/test results/deaths/recovery stats ?


we got a deliberate cluster F**** going on, buried under mountains of minutia, useless data,spin, intentional confusion about the diseases/contaminations/and quarantines


Encia22 has a post 4 slots down that says

Yep, gambling with life and reducing it to a game of craps! Roll the dice and take your chances.

we got a deliberate cluster F**** going on, buried under mountains of minutia, useless data,spin, intentional confusion about the diseases/contaminations/and quarantines

I've felt that because the same thing includes all the reports coming out of China. Now here in this country, put 'n it mildly, one hospital already closed it doors. This sh...te is bad people. Isn't the Americans having a Marti Gra or whatever it is called. Oh, my goodness, "The Spread" a new movie in the makes , heck even maybe a new song from me.

Wow, very sad.

A Chinese Director And 3 Of His Family Members Passed Away After Getting Infected With COVID-19

hinese director Chang Kai has passed away at the age of 55 after contracting COVID-19, sparking anger across China after his last words were revealed. The Hubei native had alleged that his elderly father was refused treatment after falling ill and eventually passed away at home after being turned away by numerous medical institutions. His mother and older sister have also passed away after being infected with the virus.

a reply to: ketsuko

SARS-CoV-2 *NOT* genetically engineered. This paper was popped up about three hours ago, and argues through genetic analysis that wherever this thing came from, it was not created intentionally, but occurred naturally.

But that has to be the official story. Any alternative to this thing occurring naturally is not an option.

I would like to also point out that the engineering of the virus is considered as improbable, not impossible.

originally posted by: FamCore
9 "suspected cases" in my home state (greeeaaat)

Which state?

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
Wow, very sad.

A Chinese Director And 3 Of His Family Members Passed Away After Getting Infected With COVID-19

hinese director Chang Kai has passed away at the age of 55 after contracting COVID-19, sparking anger across China after his last words were revealed. The Hubei native had alleged that his elderly father was refused treatment after falling ill and eventually passed away at home after being turned away by numerous medical institutions. His mother and older sister have also passed away after being infected with the virus.

Is anyone else noticing people in china who are speaking out about the virus or being critical of how the government are dealing with it are ending up "infected" then dead?
Its a few now.

Diamong Princess evac.

So they decided to also take out some who had tested positive but had not yet shown signs of symptoms along with those who were still otherwise healthy including those who might be incubating.

I saw above that three came down with fevers in flight. They may have been in the otherwise healthy but possibly incubating group.

I don't think everyone had been tested.

They talk about one family that has split to the four winds with one member still in Japan in the hospital, members in quarantine, members sent to places where they can be treated because they are ill or infected, etc., and all trying to stay in touch and coordinate care.

a reply to: Violater1

That's the one. Thank you.

So assuming the 4 insertions have been taken directly from the HIV virus, where does this leave things in terms of Covid-19 wiping out the immune system in order to allow more 'natural' illnesses to do the actual killing?

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777

originally posted by: MissBeck
Pressure seems to be building in Hong Kong.

There has also been some panic-buying of toilet rolls, hand sanitisers and face masks in Singapore, which has 75 confirmed coronavirus cases.

Coronavirus: Armed robbers steal hundreds of toilet rolls in Hong Kong

You beat me to it.

Has it really come to this?

Knife-Wielding Robbers in Hong Kong Steal 600 Rolls of Toilet Paper Amid Coronavirus Panic

time.com...

Desperate people in desperate times do desperate things. Probably Best to keep this in mind in the coming months. People may start doing things that you would never expect civilized people to do.

IMHO.

a reply to: myselfaswell

Generally, and this is from my husband, when humans monkey with something we do it in specific ways. There are only certain places we've learned how to actually play with successfully and there only certain processes we've really learned how to use to do it successfully too. Those leave marks that can be seen.

Nature is much more "fluid and organic" to use his words because nature isn't constrained by what her technology and understanding currently allows.

He tried to put it in terms I would understand as an editor: When I am looking at text there are patterns of mistakes common to almost all humans - apostrophe errors, typing dyslexia (transposed letters), etc., after a while, you get your eye in and just ignore most everything else and learn to spot those. They stand out like glaring red flags. For someone versed in looking at genomes, human engineering/tampering is the same. What these people are saying is that they have looked at the genomic samples and do not see those red flags.