Corona Virus Updates Part 2

originally posted by: DaMouse
Excellent reading about the situation on the ground in Hong Kong

redflag.org.au...

‘ The government has #ed up big time. There’s no other way of putting it. Almost two decades after severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS, another coronavirus) killed 299 people in the territory amid claims of coverups and inaction, Hong Kong appears thoroughly unprepared. The city’s vaunted free market capitalism has failed. There aren’t enough masks. There’s no sanitiser. Four quarantine zones have hastily been declared, but they are either in or are close to residential areas and some of the locals are apoplectic. Why hadn’t proper sites on government land been prepared earlier?’

Well, to be fair... "Lightning never strikes the same place twice" they say so why preparing right?
For real now, there isn't any city on Earth that is "prepared" for this, and I don't think it's even possible to have dozens of millions masks at hand. HK population is 7.5 million, and strictly speaking, the VAST majority of masks are NOT re-usable, so you would need a new one every day you go out, so let's assume 30% of people go out every day for a month with a new mask. That's around 75 million masks just for Hong Kong. So I wouldn't blame them, there isn't enough masks anywhere really, never was, never will be.

a reply to: 1questioner

While we're waiting on Numbers...



You haven't seen nothin yet.

originally posted by: that1lurker
I'm still trying to catch up on all of this, but (correct me if I'm wrong or if it has been debunked)
The virus is mutating. It may have a incubation period of up to 40~ days. If not 40 days then in multiple cycles of 20ish days. It is spreading in Hong Kong and Japan rather quickly. Some evidence points to it actually being created. Most countries are not reporting cases as to not spread panic. Sound about right?

The mutating part I'm not sure about (but I'm not a pathologist/virologist either)

This resource DOES show you the different "recorded" (official) mutations but all viruses mutate - if you notice a huge spike in the # of fatalities from the same strain and it's a major outlier, then I think it's safer to say it has mutated to the point of being dangerous on another level: Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (nCoV) (source: Nextstrain)

www.cnbc.com...

this is an interesting bunch of info CNBC coronavirus latest updates...

another 44 = 220 now on that cruise ship so how is this spreading? I thought they were all being kept in their rooms?

originally posted by: trusername
www.cnbc.com...

this is an interesting bunch of info CNBC coronavirus latest updates...

another 44 = 220 now on that cruise ship so how is this spreading? I thought they were all being kept in their rooms?

If I remember correctly they were quarantined Feb 4th, so only 10 days thus far. Incubation period could be longer, not sure about their testing procedures, but apparently they haven't tested all of them, yet. So they could have gotten infected prior to being quarantined in their rooms.

In regards to how is this spreading... possibly through air-conditioning.

dont think it's been posted here

A passenger aboard a cruise ship docked in Sydney Harbour is being tested for possible coronavirus.

The Australian understands that NSW Health are assessing a Singaporean man who fell ill with a respiratory complaint.

The cruise ship arrived in Sydney this morning having believed to be at other Australian ports after travelling from New Zealand.
The Norwegian Jewel arrived in Sydney this morning at 6am and is docked at the international passenger terminal at Circular Quay.

The 294m ship has a guest capacity of 2376 people and 1060 crew.

www.theaustralian.com.au... 5958f9e07dc?from=htc_rss

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A passenger aboard a cruise ship docked in Sydney Harbour is being tested for possible coronavirus. The Australian understands that NSW Health are assessing a Singaporean man who fell ill with a respiratory complaint. The cruise ship arrived in Sydney this morning having believed to be at other Australian ports after travelling from New Zealand. The Norwegian Jewel arrived in Sydney this morning at 6am and is docked at the international passenger terminal at Circular Quay. The 294m ship has a guest capacity of 2376 people and 1060 crew.

a reply to: FamCore
Right on. I have no idea how viruses work outside of high school education and some internet research lol. I understand viruses do mutate, but it seems that people think this one is acting strangely? It seems you understood what I was getting at with the mutations though. Thanks for the sweet link.

www.reuters.com...

“We’re a little disappointed in the lack of transparency coming from the Chinese, these numbers are jumping around. ... There was some surprise,” top White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told reporters in Washington.

a reply to: trusername

A scary thought I had the other day is that perhaps one of the chefs is/was infected and they just don't know yet. They all need to eat. I don't know how well it could spread through food, especially if its cooked.

A Biotech company has identified 2 human antibodies that attach to SARS-cov-2 spike.

pipelinereview.com... Newly-Named-as-SARS-CoV-2.html

Vir Biotechnology,, a clinical-stage immunology company focused on immune approaches to treating and preventing serious infectious diseases, today announced that it has identified two monoclonal antibodies (mAbs) that bind to SARS-CoV-2 (previously known as “2019-nCoV”), which were originally found because they bind and neutralize the original SARS-CoV.

“We are in the process of assessing neutralization with a pseudo-virus,” said George Scangos, Ph.D., CEO of Vir. “In addition, we are working with international partners to assess the capacity of these antibodies to neutralize the live virus, SARS-CoV-2.”

Antibody-based therapies are different from vaccines and have distinct attributes that may make them potentially valuable, particularly in pandemic settings:

Antibodies can be therapeutic and prophylactic, meaning they can be used as a treatment for people who have been infected and can also protect people who have been, or may be, exposed to infection.

Whereas a vaccine requires an individual to make an immune response, which can take weeks and be insufficient, an antibody provides the immune response, which can be effective within hours of injection and is not dependent upon the individual making an immune response to the pathogen.

BREAKING: Epicenter of coronavirus outbreak reports 4,823 new cases and 116 new deaths.

twitter.com...

Under old way of classifying cases it would have been 1,728 new cases and 108 deaths.

twitter.com...

originally posted by: that1lurker
I'm still trying to catch up on all of this, but (correct me if I'm wrong or if it has been debunked)
The virus is mutating. It may have a incubation period of up to 40~ days. If not 40 days then in multiple cycles of 20ish days. It is spreading in Hong Kong and Japan rather quickly. Some evidence points to it actually being created. Most countries are not reporting cases as to not spread panic. Sound about right?

Lol. What "evidence" point to it beibg created?

a reply to: weirdguy

A little bit of hope. Thank you.

4823 new cases

116 deaths

In hubei

originally posted by: Advantage

originally posted by: TickettyBoo
Does this mean that steroids make it seem worse? Sorry if I'm being a bit dense here .. a reply to: Advantage

Yeah, when they gave them to counteract the crazy lung adn pulmonary inflammation the virus didnt abate and was able to take more of a foothold in the system. I imagine because it lowered the immune system.. then you can haev this weird bounceback.

Thank you. I was Ill with a flu/chest infection in October, I was given antibiotics and steroids and the steroids made me WAY worse. I really struggled to breathe. I dont think in anyway I've had this new virus but its interesting none the less that the prescribed treatment could make you worse. I hadn't heard of that before.

Morning ATS members. Just woke up. Yep. Late sleeper this morning. I'll have an update soon, but first I want to thank everyone that has been reading my updates and have kindly sent PM's to me with thoughts of the family also. Much appreciated by us.
Last night I left off at page 330 and now on ATS is on page 357. For those that got lost in all the new pages, this was my last report:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Today is a very big day for the passengers not only here in Japan, but also those that are in Cambodia. Let's hope for good news.

Thanks everyone

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Back to the previous way of counting cases, obviously. I'm starting to think the member here yesterday who proposed the abrupt removal of several Hubei and Wuhan CCP local leaders was due to them going off script and releasing real numbers to the media, causing Beijing to flip their crap and remove them from their positions immediately may have hit the nail on the head.