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originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
Interesting stats in a new paper. Seems more non-smokers are effected than smokers or ex-smokers. It's not peer reviewed yet, but looking at basic stats and demographic should be safe enough.
85% of patients were non-smokers. Both non-smokers and smokers seem to go on and and develop (or not) in similar ways. You might expect the opposite to be true, but this shows similarity to Spanish Flu. 'Cytokine Storm' has also been seen in some cases, as spoken about earlier (not this paper), again, similar to Spanish Flu.
www.medrxiv.org...
The paper is talking about lots of stuff, but the data I'm talking about can be found on page 21.
Funny enough I was going to menton about smoking. Maybe the smoke can help kil the virus off and stop it from spreading in the body?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: celltypespecific
Its infected 46% of those tested so far.. 160 infected and they have only tested 336
What the spread rate of infection with the flu compared to corona virus ?
Data suggest nCoV more infectious than 1918 flu, but what does that mean?
Based on calculations, the authors of the larger study estimate the novel coronavirus has an R0 of 2.2, meaning each case patient could infect more than 2 other people. If accurate, this makes the 2019 nCoV more infectious than the 1918 influenza pandemic virus, which had an R0 of 1.80 (interquartile range: 1.47 to 2.27).
Frantic search for people on easyJet flight after passenger is diagnosed with coronavirus
A frantic search for people on an easyJet flight was launched after a passenger was diagnosed with coronavirus. Public Health England was this morning in the process of contacting those seated in the vicinity of the customer on flight EZS8481, from Geneva to London Gatwick, on Tuesday, January 28 to "provide guidance in line with procedures", an easyJet spokesman said.
originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
Interesting stats in a new paper. Seems more non-smokers are effected than smokers or ex-smokers. It's not peer reviewed yet, but looking at basic stats and demographic should be safe enough.
85% of patients were non-smokers. Both non-smokers and smokers seem to go on and and develop (or not) in similar ways. You might expect the opposite to be true, but this shows similarity to Spanish Flu. 'Cytokine Storm' has also been seen in some cases, as spoken about earlier (not this paper), again, similar to Spanish Flu.
www.medrxiv.org...
The paper is talking about lots of stuff, but the data I'm talking about can be found on page 21.
Funny enough I was going to menton about smoking. Maybe the smoke can help kil the virus off and stop it from spreading in the body?
Maybe, but current thinking on smoking, such as with the Spanish Flu, is that smokers lungs were so damaged that their immune response was very weak. So the stronger in society were picked off more than the unhealthy via Cytokine Storm.
Cytokine Storm has been seen with nCoV too, and this evidence of more non-smokers being affected than non-smokers is interesting. Especially given it is China where you'd expect high numbers of smokers in the data regardless. Cytokine Storm is basically where your immune system goes on overdrive and ends up damaging organs. So the stronger your immune system, the stronger this dangerous condition.
Edit: For other readers here's link to original paper where data suggests 85% of cases are non-smokers. Data on page 21
www.medrxiv.org...
Police ‘wearing hazmat suits’ will be able to HANDCUFF suspected coronavirus patients and force them back into quarantine: Tough new laws after a patient tried to 'BREAK OUT' from Arrowe Park and total UK infected DOUBLES to eight
Police have been given the power to seize people trying to escape coronavirus quarantine and force them back into isolation in handcuffs, the government announced today. A new law was hurriedly brought into force after a patient staying at Arrowe Park Hospital on the Wirral reportedly tried to leave before completing the 14-day stay after his return from China. Government sources said those who returned to the UK on the evacuation flights on January 31 were given a 'very clear choice' and had to sign contracts saying they would remain in isolation for a fortnight. But a source involved with the Arrowe Park incident said: 'We found we didn't have the necessary enforcement powers to make sure they didn't leave'. Police will now be able to force people to remain in the units and, if they leave, to arrest them for committing an offence and take them back to the quarantine facility, MailOnline understands.
originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: Mateo96
Good papers being published, many underlying chronic diseases especially those that impact the heart and lungs will make this virus love you, easier bind and reproduce. ACE2 is our body’s counterpoint to ACE.
In 1979 Iranian extremists kidnapped and held 52 American diplomats hostage for over a year (444 days to be exact). The world heard about this non-stop via the media until they were released. Yet it's "okay" to kidnap and hold hostage 3,700 people on a ship?????
originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
a reply to: Power_Semi
85% of cases are non-smokers!
Either that's just coin-cidence or there is something to it and also could be the reason why Governments wanted 'smoking' banned and people to give up... it's possible.
originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: Mateo96
Good papers being published, many underlying chronic diseases especially those that impact the heart and lungs will make this virus love you, easier bind and reproduce. ACE2 is our body’s counterpoint to ACE.
Someone is lying somewhere...
1) Non smokers seem to be getting the virus more easily.
2) Those who do smoke or have a possibility to get chronic disease are more susceptible to contracting the virus.
so which is it?