Alleged Unseen NASA Apollo 11 Faked Studio Moon Landing Video Montage Appears Online

a reply to: alldaylong

No it wasn't!

The Lunar Rover Vehicle (LRV) was first used on Apollo 15. Two other LRV's were used on Apollo 16 and 17. The LRV was still in the early development stages during Apollo 11 and not mission ready.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: alldaylong

No it wasn't!

The Lunar Rover Vehicle (LRV) was first used on Apollo 15. Two other LRV's were used on Apollo 16 and 17. The LRV had not been available for Apollo 11.

Bloody hell. I missed a word out. I meant to say " not used "

That's why i called it fake.

a reply to: studio500

Well, badlipsync do a good job.

this is fake as hell...

a reply to: alldaylong

Yeah, I wondered if that was what you meant.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: studio500

notime to watch properly - but can the OP or " anyone " - coherently explain why this is evidence that the appollo missions were hoaxed ?

Quite simply, it's not.

No more than the footage of that super huge space craft was filmed on the moon by the lunar lander.

just bollocks, really.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: MerkabaTribeEntity
Starting from about 1:21 into the video, it's clearly a still image of an astronaut, until someone says 'action', then the footage resumes - it's clear as day,

Did you watch any of it or did you just read and then copy and paste the first comment?
Lol.

Or maybe you are the author of the first (top) comment on that page??

More the question.. Did YOU watch any of it?

a reply to: studio500

Americans have walked on the moon 6 times. This involved close to 1/2 a million people to get us there.

If we didn't go. Don't you think that some of those people would of come forward and said, "yeah we faked it?"

That's not the only problem with this line of thinking. They wouldn't just be saying they faked it once. But they would of had to have faked it 6 times. 6 times!

Total bs.

a reply to: Parishna

Yes.....got to 3.33....then read some comments then returned to ATS.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Yep, it's all me, lol

You can see from time stamps that I wrote it here first,

a reply to: studio500

Just to point out. When you are spending so much money to do this mission do you really think models and simulations are inappropriate or surprising?

Ever seen the fake mars surface for rover testing? They'd be stupid to not model where they are intending to land on.

Give me a break and use your heads.

There is photographic proof of all six moon landings. Images taken by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter mission beginning in July 2009 show the six Apollo Lunar Module descent stages, Apollo Lunar Surface Experiment Package (ALSEP) science experiments, astronaut footpaths, and lunar rover tire tracks.

Aside from NASA, a number of entities and individuals observed, through various means, the Apollo missions as they took place. On later missions, NASA released information to the public explaining where third party observers could expect to see the various craft at specific times according to scheduled launch times and planned trajectories.

Observers of all missions
The Soviet Union monitored the missions at their Space Transmissions Corps, which was "fully equipped with the latest intelligence-gathering and surveillance equipment." Vasily Mishin, in an interview for the article "The Moon Programme That Faltered," describes how the Soviet Moon programme dwindled after the Apollo landing.

The missions were tracked by radar from several countries on the way to the Moon and back.

Kettering Grammar School
A group at Kettering Grammar School, using simple radio equipment, monitored Soviet and U.S. spacecraft and calculated their orbits. According to the group, in December 1972 a member "picks up Apollo 17 on its way to the Moon".

Apollo 8
On December 21, 1968, at 18:00 UT, amateur astronomers (H.R. Hatfield, M.J. Hendrie, F. Kent, Alan Heath, and M.J. Oates) in the UK photographed a fuel dump from the jettisoned S-IVB third rocket stage.
Pic du Midi Observatory (in the French Pyrenees); the Catalina Station of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory (University of Arizona); Corralitos Observatory, New Mexico, then operated by Northwestern University; McDonald Observatory of the University of Texas; and Lick Observatory of the University of California all filed reports of observations.
Dr. Michael Moutsoulas at Pic du Midi Observatory reported an initial sighting around 17:10 UT on December 21 with the 1.1-metre reflector as an object (magnitude near 10, through clouds) moving eastward near the predicted location of Apollo 8. He used a 60-cm refractor telescope to observe a cluster of objects which were obscured by the appearance of a nebulous cloud at a time which matches a firing of the service module engine to assure adequate separation from the S-IVB. This event can be traced with the Apollo 8 Flight Journal, noting that launch was at 0751 EST or 12:51 UT on December 21.
Justus Dunlap and others at Corralitos Observatory (then operated by Northwestern University) obtained over 400 short-exposure intensified images, giving very accurate locations for the spacecraft.
The 2.1m Otto Struve Telescope at McDonald Observatory, from 01:50–2:37 UT on December 23, observed the brightest object flashing as bright as magnitude 15, with the flash pattern recurring about once a minute.
The Lick Observatory observations during the return coast to Earth produced live television pictures broadcast to United States west coast viewers via KQED-TV in San Francisco.
An article in the March 1969 issue of Sky & Telescope contained many reports of optical tracking of Apollo 8.
The first post-launch sightings were from the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory (SAO) station on Maui. Many in Hawaii observed the trans-lunar injection burn near 15:44 UT on December 21.

Apollo 10
A list of sightings of Apollo 10 were reported in "Apollo 10 Optical Tracking" by Sky & Telescope magazine, July 1969, pp. 62–63.
During the Apollo 10 mission The Corralitos Observatory was linked with the CBS news network. Images of the spacecraft going to the Moon were broadcast live.

Apollo 11
The Bochum Observatory director (Professor Heinz Kaminski) was able to provide confirmation of events and data independent of both the Russian and U.S. space agencies.
A compilation of sightings appeared in "Observations of Apollo 11" by Sky and Telescope magazine, November 1969, pp. 358–59.
At Jodrell Bank Observatory in the UK, the telescope was used to observe the mission, as it was used years previously for Sputnik. At the same time, Jodrell Bank scientists were tracking the unmanned Soviet spacecraft Luna 15, which was trying to land on the Moon. In July 2009, Jodrell released some recordings they made.
Larry Baysinger, a technician for WHAS radio in Louisville, Kentucky, independently detected and recorded transmissions between the Apollo 11 astronauts on the lunar surface and the Lunar Module. Recordings made by Baysinger share certain characteristics with recordings made at Bochum Observatory by Kaminski, in that both Kaminski's and Baysinger's recordings do not include the Capsule Communicator (CAPCOM) in Houston, Texas, and the associated Quindar tones heard in NASA audio and seen on NASA Apollo 11 transcripts. Kaminski and Baysinger could only hear the transmissions from the Moon, and not transmissions to the Moon from the Earth.

Apollo 12
Paul Maley reports several sightings of the Apollo 12 Command Module.

Apollo 13
Chabot Observatory calendar records an application of optical tracking during the final phases of Apollo 13, on April 17, 1970:
Rachel, Chabot Observatory's 20-inch refracting telescope, helps bring Apollo 13 and its crew home. One last burn of the lunar lander engines was needed before the crippled spacecraft's re-entry into the Earth's atmosphere. In order to compute that last burn, NASA needed a precise position of the spacecraft, obtainable only by telescopic observation. All the observatories that could have done this were clouded over, except Oakland's Chabot Observatory, where members of the Eastbay Astronomical Society had been tracking the Moon flights. EAS members received an urgent call from NASA Ames Research Station, which had ties with Chabot's educational program since the 60's, and they put the Observatory's historic 20-inch refractor to work. They were able to send the needed data to Ames, and the Apollo crew was able to make the needed correction and to return safely to Earth on this date in 1970.

Apollo 14
Corralitos Observatory photographed Apollo 14.

Apollo 15
Paul Wilson and Richard T. Knadle, Jr. received voice transmissions from the Command/Service Module in lunar orbit on the morning of August 1, 1971. In an article for QST magazine they provide a detailed description of their work, with photographs.

Apollo 16
Jewett Observatory at Washington State University reported sightings of Apollo 16.
At least two different radio amateurs, W4HHK and K2RIW, reported reception of Apollo 16 signals with home-built equipment
Bochum Observatory tracked the astronauts and intercepted the television signals from Apollo 16. The image was re-recorded in black and white in the 625 lines, 25 frames/s television standard onto 2-inch videotape using their sole quad machine. The transmissions are only of the astronauts and do not contain any voice from Houston, as the signal received came from the Moon only. The videotapes are held in storage at the observatory.

Apollo 17
Sven Grahn of the Swedish space program has described several amateur sightings of Apollo 17.

Wiki

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: studio500

A short video has appeared on Youtube that appears to show how the Apollo moon landing was faked.

Either that or it's the Capricorn One film set inter-spliced with NASA footage.

Capricorn One

One of your images.

Ding Ding Ding I think we have our winner!

I still say what I always say when this comes up.

1. Was going to the moon impossible?

2. If not, what would have been the point of faking it?

3. I have not seen anything so far that would convince me it wasn't possible.

4. I don't think it really matters much now anyway. Unless you believe everything NASA has done since then was fake too, they would obviously be capable of going to the moon by now if they chose to. The 60s seems like some kind of alternate reality from where we are now. The incredulity of people who might have believed something like that wasn't possible would have brought them to similar conclusions about a desktop PC that would make the computers that were used on those missions look like toys.

IOW - What you're doing right now would have blown the minds of people who watched the moon landings on TV in those days. Youtube would have seemed like magic to them.

Anyone seen the Stanley Kurbick video? Apparently he admits he helped fake it.

I can see why Niel Armstrong became violent when someone confronted him with the Moon landing hoax card. After all he risked his life to do what he did. I am sure being killed during the mission was a significant probability.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: studio500

There is an obvious clue that this is fake.

The " Moon Buggy " was used on the Apollo 11 mission.

You mean wasn’t even on Apollo 11? (The rover that is...)

ETA- Okay yeah I see it was typo my bad that was a good catch the person putting this together didn’t even have basic knowledge of the Apollo program, as that’s a rookie mistake. I concur on part of this looking like it was lifted from Capricorn One.

originally posted by: CosmicAwakening
Anyone seen the Stanley Kurbick video? Apparently he admits he helped fake it.

That was a complete hoax interview the rest of the video with the “actor” playing Kubrick being coached on what to say.

ETA-

So some one just dubbed in sound over real moon footage, and spliced in production and desert footage that doesn’t even look like it was shot with the same cameras.

a reply to: studio500

a reply to: PokeyJoe

We do indeed - check 37:26 of this:



you'll see the exact scene.

There is fakery in the OP video, but it's not Apollo's.

e2a: In fact at the start of the video I link to above you can see the same scenes and crew as in the OP video. All they've done is splice in some genuine footage with stuff from the making of Capricorn One.

a reply to: studio500

Ought to be pretty simple to corroborate.

Can we compare any of the "moonscape" in "authentic" moon footage to any of what appears here which is obviously on Earth?