Miss America ends swimsuit competition

Big deal. In lots of other countries (especially Latin American countries) the swimsuit competition will never be banned.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: InTheLight

That's absolute BS!! They know EXACTLY who watches these shows!!!

Again, just look at the targeted advertising. They're not advertising Ford trucks during these shows! Nope, they're advertising maxi-pads and femine products.

Why not, I am in the market for a Ford truck? Anyway, there are no stats on if women or young girls are watching, which makes a big difference as to 'why' the show is being watched, so you have no argument.

originally posted by: TheBandit795
Big deal. In lots of other countries (especially Latin American countries) the swimsuit competition will never be banned.

Of course, non progressive societies, what do you expect?

a reply to: InTheLight

You're just being obtuse now!

Television demographics today are laser specific. They know exactly who watches what, every minute, of every day. Right down to the person just about. They know what gender watches, when they tune in, when they tune out. They know exactly whether men AND women are watching and when it's just one or the other.

How do they do it? It's a science, and it's BIG money...and it's very specific.

Don't be foolish!

Men watch the Lingerie Football League for the creative play calling too.

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: InTheLight
Those mags cater to a specific type of woman - the sexually free - you really are off the beaten track and are confusing sexual objectification with women being sexually free to do what they want, including showing their bodies on the front of a mag if they so choose. Cosmo mag is not a beauty pageant or competition, your argument has no bearing on the topic at hand, that being defining beauty through sexual objectification.

Those pageants, and the advertisers buying their time slots, cater to a specific type of women. No one is forcing these women into beauty pageants. They freely choose to show their bodies in swimsuits. You really are off the beaten track and are confusing sexual objectification with women being sexually free to do what they want. Your argument of sexual objectification has no bearing on the topic at hand.

If there is a mandatory swimsuit segment, then yes, they have no choice.

a reply to: InTheLight

You mean non-regressive societies. Unlike this PC, SJW infested nonsense in the U.S. and some other western countries.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: WarPig1939
Heck even guys have their version of a beauty pageant. It's called the body building competition and/or something similar across the country. No one is complaining about that and the only thing those men wear are speedos. Where is the verdict on that huh?

Or are women the only gender that feel the need to be "protected" from prying eyes? If anyone wants this so called sexual objectification to end, you should pack your bags and move to a middle eastern country. Over in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia, they stone women that don't cover up.

And where are the stats of which gender is viewing those body-building shows? Women body build too, what about those gender stats? If we pryed deeper we'd see audiences are not gender based but interest based.

Who cares about the stats? These people who participate are enjoying it and get to do what they wanted which is getting noticed and hopefully winning. The amount of viewership proves it is what drives the ratings which gives the host money. Why would they destroy something that clearly works? Virtue Signaling points for the METOO cause? Yeah that is a sure fire way to kill a show.

In reality no one wants to watch a beauty pageant about how smart or socially driven a woman is in fighting for social issues. If anyone wants that they can go to CSPAN or MTV for that.

a reply to: DBCowboy

I hate American handball but I have watched that a few times. Much better then the male version.
I'm trying to find female medieval MMA but also not any .

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: InTheLight

You're just being obtuse now!

Television demographics today are laser specific. They know exactly who watches what, every minute, of every day. Right down to the person just about. They know what gender watches, when they tune in, when they tune out. They know exactly whether men AND women are watching and when it's just one or the other.

How do they do it? It's a science, and it's BIG money...and it's very specific.

Don't be foolish!

I am never foolsh. They really don't know who is watching unless they do specific polling (specifically gender, age, and reason for watching), which they do not. Show me some evidence as to how you arrive at your stance.

originally posted by: InTheLight
If there is a mandatory swimsuit segment, then yes, they have no choice.

So now you're claiming that women are forced to enter themselves into televised beauty pageants?

If not, then your response to me was a clear straw man logical fallacy.

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: InTheLight

You mean non-regressive societies. Unlike this PC, SJW infested nonsense in the U.S. and some other western countries.

More like backward.

originally posted by: WarPig1939

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: WarPig1939
Heck even guys have their version of a beauty pageant. It's called the body building competition and/or something similar across the country. No one is complaining about that and the only thing those men wear are speedos. Where is the verdict on that huh?

Or are women the only gender that feel the need to be "protected" from prying eyes? If anyone wants this so called sexual objectification to end, you should pack your bags and move to a middle eastern country. Over in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia, they stone women that don't cover up.

And where are the stats of which gender is viewing those body-building shows? Women body build too, what about those gender stats? If we pryed deeper we'd see audiences are not gender based but interest based.

Who cares about the stats? These people who participate are enjoying it and get to do what they wanted which is getting noticed and hopefully winning. The amount of viewership proves it is what drives the ratings which gives the host money. Why would they destroy something that clearly works? Virtue Signaling points for the METOO cause? Yeah that is a sure fire way to kill a show.

In reality no one wants to watch a beauty pageant about how smart or socially driven a woman is in fighting for social issues. If anyone wants that they can go to CSPAN or MTV for that.

The polling and statistical information will reveal who is watching, and more importantly 'why'.

a reply to: InTheLight

So all those diet coke ads with the ladies ogling the shirtless fella is a sign of a backward society?.
Women ogle men men ogle women it will never change hopefully.

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: DBCowboy

I hate American handball but I have watched that a few times. Much better then the male version.
I'm trying to find female medieval MMA but also not any

.

Try googling "Hawt Sorority Medieval Babes IV".


Don't ask me how I know.

originally posted by: redmage

originally posted by: InTheLight
If there is a mandatory swimsuit segment, then yes, they have no choice.

So now you're claiming that women are forced to enter themselves into televised beauty pageants?

If not, then your response to me was a clear straw man logical fallacy.

I didn't say that, I said that if they wanted to enter the beauty pageant, they have no choice whether or not to appear in a swimsuit.

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: InTheLight

You mean non-regressive societies. Unlike this PC, SJW infested nonsense in the U.S. and some other western countries.

More like backward.

Yeah because we should model Middle Eastern countries since they would know all about how to make women look good. You do realize physical attraction is a part of human society right?

originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: InTheLight

So all those diet coke ads with the ladies ogling the shirtless fella is a sign of a backward society?.
Women ogle men men ogle women it will never change hopefully.

That is the 'sex sells' advertising, it is part of the sexual objectification within society for both men and women. The advertisers are only interested in making money and nothing else.

originally posted by: WarPig1939

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: InTheLight

You mean non-regressive societies. Unlike this PC, SJW infested nonsense in the U.S. and some other western countries.

More like backward.

Yeah because we should model Middle Eastern countries since they would know all about how to make women look good. You do realize that physical attraction is a part of human society right?

Sexual attraction and sexual exploitation and objectification are two different animals.

a reply to: WarPig1939

Thank God we don't live in Victorian times getting all giddy due to an ankle.