The Nimitz story in the former OMF forum

a reply to: TheFinalTheoryReturns

If you had it in hand then why did you say you did not have them and had lost them?

Why the story about going back to the ship to retrieve them?

a reply to: KansasGirl

I think this is more of the tried and true government method of using UFOs to cover up advancements in military tech.

The video being removed and released is not an issue because it is meant to out here keeping people distracted. The whole story about getting data off the ship seems off. Look at the old threads here.

As others have mentioned, it could be MIC testing. The tech was run by the Navy exercise to see the reaction and what they would determine. That's why it happen 3 days in a row. The third day the Navy acted and the MIC got it's answers. Maybe it wasn't even a test, something just got noticed.

Then 14 years later... It is revived.

The government is most likely funding these UFO men get keep things mixed up and unclear as they go about the development and testing.

I would like to think this is about some amazing happening but we all know the human race all too well.

originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: TheFinalTheoryReturns

If you had it in hand then why did you say you did not have them and had lost them?

Why the story about going back to the ship to retrieve them?

Ask your question very specifically then, perhaps you are not very clear.

a reply to: roadgravel

Yeah it is going to be boring old government black projects, I hope it's back engineered from actual other worldly alien dudes, although it would be equally cool if it's channeled from the secret chiefs.

It looks like disclosure is happening and aliens are hostile, prob get blamed for human trafficking and dolly the sheep too. Oh well.
.....where's my light sabre.

a reply to: TheFinalTheoryReturns

Hi TFT... dude it seems like you are dodging the question:

Did you make TWO copies of the files....

You first state that you had a copy of the files at your relatives home...

You then state that you went back to the ship to make copies to prove to the folks on ATS as to the existence of the events you initial describe. Can you please address this point.

Thank you for you patience.

a reply to: ManyMasks

For you

originally posted by: TheFinalTheoryReturns

originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: TheFinalTheoryReturns

If you had it in hand then why did you say you did not have them and had lost them?

Why the story about going back to the ship to retrieve them?

Ask your question very specifically then, perhaps you are not very clear.

Reply hazy. Try again later.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Thanks, I almost wish I found that myself cause that would be my new avatar.... Cool.

a reply to: roadgravel

Yes. I said myself that it is more plausible that it was our own military testing its own tech.

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

I take some comfort from the fact that a video has _already_ been online for over a decade, nothing seems to have been done to track down TFT since 2007 nor, more recently, does it appear that anyone has had a quiet word with Elizondo/TTSA/History about not sharing/promoting the Nimitz video (or taken any sterner measures). However, I'd cross the bridge about whether to obtain a copy of any further video/material _after_ finding someone with it, learning more about that video/material and thinking about this more or looking into it.

I haven't needed to reach any conclusive view on the material yet.

Bah. You skipped all the burning questions. And I can't see how that explains the risk averse question to any real degree.

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: IsaacKoi

The obvious lack of interest for 12 years suggest this video is of little importance and the US military are not pursuing it. If it's the real deal and genuine UFO footage then it would be one hot potato and the lack of interest by authorities would be somewhat baffling. If it's part of a hoax or a set up then that only opens up further questions.

I'm sure GUT and yourself are exercising necessary precautions. But tread carefully.

So, yeah, I mentioned that extraordinary "lag time" a bit back that both yourself and Isaac note. I see it as, at the very least, some indication that nobody cares. Maybe it's an embarrassment how easy it was anyways, and the stuff is already on prime time cable T.V. Starring Lue Elizondo for goodness sake.

My security? Yeah, I just stumble through whatever door is open without thinking much. I guess you can run into some trickster types that way.

However, having little to no interest in collecting anything. I'm not even getting excited, yet, about reading all the details or rewatching the public vids because, mostly, I don't want to get my hopes up and TTSA is a suspect source for legitimate and lengthy reasons. I'm not telling you anything.

I would imagine there are two directions being pursued by the MIC.

There is stealth, not seeing what is actually there, and this which is seeing what isn't actually there.

What's to stop anyone here from creating an account that purports to be the return of an old member? For example AstroReturns or something. Or CometaReturns?

originally posted by: coursecatalog
What's to stop anyone here from creating an account that purports to be the return of an old member? For example AstroReturns or something. Or CometaReturns?

Nothing? But can you be authentic, and actually make people think you are the real deal? That is the real question....

How many more people need to verify for you that this guy is legit before you believe him?

Doesn't it appear that the original account was banned?

originally posted by: PokeyJoe

originally posted by: coursecatalog
What's to stop anyone here from creating an account that purports to be the return of an old member? For example AstroReturns or something. Or CometaReturns?

Nothing? But can you be authentic, and actually make people think you are the real deal? That is the real question....

How many more people need to verify for you that this guy is legit before you believe him?

I guess when he explains the gaping holes in his story. For example, he refuses to address why he said he had lost the video and docs but now says he had them all along. Why make up the story about going back to the ship? Why did his roommate post from the same IP but pretend not to know him? Why all the theatrics if this was a legit attempt to disclose what he saw as world changing information?

originally posted by: roadgravel
Doesn't it appear that the original account was banned?

The original account was locked by the mod Majic due to violation of rules prohibiting sock puppetry.

a reply to: coursecatalog

Tks. That adds a level a credibility to the user. No mention only responding to certain questions.

originally posted by: coursecatalog

The original account was locked by the mod Majic due to violation of rules prohibiting sock puppetry.

But even taking that into account, was TFT the first one to drop the video we are being bombarded with across the msm spectrum? If so, I mean, hey...the man apparently brought it to the world first.

originally posted by: TheFinalTheoryReturns
There are many levels to this discussion, the first level where people think its still a hoax or a some type of counter intell operation. Those people are out of date with known facts, and the fact that this video has been confirmed real. The first level is where I roll my eyes, and can't believe that people are chiming in on a story, and haven't done their due diligence and homework researching it. Mainly will be ignored, until you yourself are up to speed.

Level Two Where people are more focused on me, than on the actual UFO event , technology and what it means for the human race as a whole. I look at these people as witch hunters and people in the conversation that are focusing on all the wrong things. I won't be engaging many people on level two, as I do not intend on getting in any type of trouble or appeasing and satisfying these types of people. You are quite literally talking to yourself here, and going in circles.

Level Three Is happening by people who have accepted this event, video and ATS story as fact, who understand that I am for real. These people are either searching for the data, trying to help me remember, or pushing the narrative forward in positive, and intelligent ways. They don't repeat themselves very often, and always come with something good or at least decent to say. In the previous levels, people just love to hear themselves talk, repeating one another like Parakeets. I don't speak to birds, I speak to humans.

Level Four is where you are talking to me directly, and asking what it is you wish. Dedicated for the people that I have hand selected myself after carefully analyzing their postings and thoughts of me, for years.

Get to level 3 and 4.

Public Service Announcement.

Am a little unsure exactly what have read here. But so far the chosen hand picked ones have been Isaac and THE GUT.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep

Am a little unsure exactly what have read here. But so far the chosen hand picked ones have been Isaac and THE GUT.

I have questioned TFT about some of the stuff being discussed here---mostly during the "identity check" stage. Not even much about that aspect then. But mostly we just text back and forth, quite a lot lol, about everyday stuff with a little Tesla and Bigfoot stuff thrown in. I believe he's a sailor who served honorably.

We're like two ufology goofballs just shooting' the rap about stuff not directly related to this more often than not. I've been enjoying it. The kind of things I am most curious about can be learned just by being real with someone and having continued conversations. Not hard data. Although there's certainly a place for hard data in the larger scheme of ufology. This just wasn't one of those type of things for me.

At first I regretted mentioning I sent him a pm. I wasn't trying to be a part of any confirmation process. I just thought there was a good chance he'd be banned and I wanted to talk to him away from here if possible were that to happen.

I've actually suggested that he burn this joint---this thread I mean. It's served it's purpose and just a backwater anyway. I've suggested that he might consider doing a thread just discussing what he thinks it means for ufology and his experience with the weird UFO aspects and refer anyone back here for the other stuff. I'd love to see a dedicated thread from him.

Like most of us, he seems to enjoy talking and learning about the various phenomena more than anything else.