The Nimitz story in the former OMF forum

a reply to: The GUT

Thanks for the update Gut and the time you put into this.

originally posted by: roadgravel
So it is being said that anonymous person is an anonymous person. And third person given by this anonymous person verified an anonymous person.

This is FBI/CIA level intelligence work.

I suppose it is the best that can be done.

I feel your pain and, yeah, for the moment it's probably the best that can be done. Take it for what it's worth and caveat emptor and all that. While I'm not ready to share my own identity across ATS I did share my rl person with TFT to build trust and try to answer this question because it would seem a very important issue for ufology as a whole. Unprecedented even.

a reply to: The GUT

Brave move. They now know you, you are still blind to them.

If this happened as stated:

I wonder why the Navy is lax on a breach of their network that has been openly claimed with data leaked.

Or is it someone who is not who is claimed, so it never happened.

Maybe the Navy isn't all it is said to be. I hope that is not true.

edit:

How many other sailors cannot be trusted?

originally posted by: IsaacKoi
I think that some of the details that TFTR has forgotten can be used to refresh his memory about his communication with Cometa, which may result in TFTR regaining access to some of the material that has been lost over the years - including the longer version of the video and/or the Powerpoint presentation about the events (i.e. UFO 5 Anomaly brief.ppt).

TFTR possibility 1 : AIM user archive etc

TFT indicated in his original threads in 2007 that he was using (or willing to use) AOL Instant Messenger to contact Cometa and others about his material. In one post TFT gave an AOL Instant Messenger screen name of "thefinalxtheory":
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I wondered whether TFTR would be able to recover material from an archive of AIM conversations. Unfortunately, at first glance it looks like this would have been possible between 2007 and less than 2 years ago, but that the AIM service was shut down in December 2017 and conversation archives were lost:
heavy.com...

Perhaps someone can look into whether it would be possible to regain an archive?

Altenatively, TFTR's recollection of any relevant email address may be prompted by being reminded that he had an AOL Instant Messenger screen name of "thefinalxtheory".

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

originally posted by: IsaacKoi
I think that some of the details that TFTR has forgotten can be used to refresh his memory about his communication with Cometa, which may result in TFTR regaining access to some of the material that has been lost over the years - including the longer version of the video and/or the Powerpoint presentation about the events (i.e. UFO 5 Anomaly brief.ppt).

Unfortunately trying to login with this account shows it was deactivated due to inactivity. The AIM screen name doesn’t necessarily mean that my email address at the time was that one or anything to do with that name. It doesn’t jog any further memories unfortunately. I will keep thinking about it.

TFTR possibility 1 : AIM user archive etc

TFT indicated in his original threads in 2007 that he was using (or willing to use) AOL Instant Messenger to contact Cometa and others about his material. In one post TFT gave an AOL Instant Messenger screen name of "thefinalxtheory":
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I wondered whether TFTR would be able to recover material from an archive of AIM conversations. Unfortunately, at first glance it looks like this would have been possible between 2007 and less than 2 years ago, but that the AIM service was shut down in December 2017 and conversation archives were lost:
heavy.com...

Perhaps someone can look into whether it would be possible to regain an archive?

Altenatively, TFTR's recollection of any relevant email address may be prompted by being reminded that he had an AOL Instant Messenger screen name of "thefinalxtheory".

Unfortunately trying to login with this account shows it was deactivated due to inactivity. The AIM screen name doesn’t necessarily mean that my email address at the time was that one or anything to do with that name. It doesn’t jog any further memories unfortunately. I will keep thinking about it.

originally posted by: TheFinalTheoryReturns
Unfortunately trying to login with this account shows it was deactivated due to inactivity.

Second possibility - email searches for "UFO"

TFTR : In one of my emails to you the other day, I suggested doing a search of the emails accounts to which you _do_ have access for keywords such as "UFO" to find any emails (the older the better...) referring to the video and other material?

I realise you've said you don't have access to your emails to Cometa in 2007, but I'm hoping you have access to some email(s) between 2007 and now which contains a fresher memory than you could provide now - and backs up what you say.

You may not even remember sending up an email, but a quick search or two of your accounts etc may throw something up.

I have in mind the email address you used to email me and also the email address at the top of your CV.

a reply to: TheFinalTheoryReturns

Hi TFT....if your claims are true and we really are experiencing Full Disclosure....

It looks like you will be a HISTORIC FIGURE....something you should think about....

I hope you have good advisors and counsel...

Whoever Cometa was he had some pretty grand plans of creating a web site to share UFO information (including the Nimitz docs and videos) and working on a campaign to unite the mighty youf in demanding disclosure.


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I apologize if this has been covered but... do we know the name of the officer who was involved in the Nimitz encounter who later went on to work for Bigelow at Bigelow Aerospace (Kevin Day calls it Space X in his Facebook post earlier in this thread)?

originally posted by: coursecatalog
I apologize if this has been covered but... do we know the name of the officer who was involved in the Nimitz encounter who later went on to work for Bigelow at Bigelow Aerospace (Kevin Day calls it Space X in his Facebook post earlier in this thread)?

Lieutenant-Colonel Douglas "Cheeks" Kurth

Edit to add a couple of links for anyone not familiar with Kurth:
www.linkedin.com...
ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com...

originally posted by: IsaacKoi

originally posted by: coursecatalog
I apologize if this has been covered but... do we know the name of the officer who was involved in the Nimitz encounter who later went on to work for Bigelow at Bigelow Aerospace (Kevin Day calls it Space X in his Facebook post earlier in this thread)?

Lieutenant-Colonel Douglas "Cheeks" Kurth

Edit to add a couple of links for anyone not familiar with Kurth:
www.linkedin.com...
ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com...

Thank you!

Searching for Cometa in Germany:

Does anyone know of any resources to locate people in Germany, if you have their full name and date of birth?

(I have some contacts in Germany but they haven't had any joy, so I'm willing to do some digging myself into available tools/resources to see what can be found...).

So after this CD drive is installed, I wonder how much data was being written to disc and sold or passed on to others.

If this is true and overlooked then there is a huge security hole inside the Navy and on aircraft carriers no less.

He had super rights on that server, for sure. There’s no server I ever worked on could any old joe walk into the server room and copy what he copied…or anything else for that matter. One couldn’t even get into a server of course without an admin password provided.

As for him not remembering something that happened 12 years ago, like someone’s name he might not have known, I mean, even if he didn’t just think about 12 years ago what details of much of anything the average person can remember.

I asked him about the device he copied this on and he said it was a Dell server. I know from my own experience the government used Dells most at the time. Now I think back 12 years ago in my days as a PC and network IT specialists I had hundreds of PASSWORDS ON ALL KINDS OF NETWORKS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I CAN’T REMEMBER ANY OF THEM!

Not even the personal ones I had on AOL, Yahoo, NetZero, and all kinds of other places.

I’ve had accounts on ATS within the period and couldn’t remember the passwords for a million dollars.

Now all this guy has to do to prove his legitimacy is that he was an IT tech in the navy and where he worked there.

That would do the trick.

originally posted by: roadgravel
So after this CD drive is installed, I wonder how much data was being written to disc and sold or passed on to others.

If this is true and overlooked then there is a huge security hole inside the Navy and on aircraft carriers no less.

Yes the security hole is people. People doing unauthorized stuff will always be the number one security hole.

If I'd done this then I'd be concerned in case a Cowboy, Construction Worker, Native American or Big Tached biker might one day tap me on the shoulder.



In the navy
Yes, you can hack the ships' PC
In the navy
Burn it all to DVD
In the navy
You can put the stuff online
In the navy, in the navy

Are you following the trail
In the navy
Because it sounds beyond the pale
In the navy
Better be thinking about bail
In the navy
Because someone could go to jail
In the navy, in the navy, in the navy

If this guy can prove his profession and that he was in the navy as a PC tech on that ship at the time in question then he’s legit...Maybe.

Just think. Let’s say he was someone who got the tape from the same source the German did and just put it on ATS as TFT, for whatever reason and he wasn’t a tech who copped the tape from the original event.

Maybe…but…

… the fact that a PC tech was on the ship who can verify he was there as a PC tech at the time is too much of a coincidence to not be significant

Right?

Or actually, this cant be proven or disproven from merely this ATS forum.

a reply to: Willtell

His post here

There was a gaping hole and weakness in the SIPRNET network at the time, the ADP officer had instructed me to put a CD/DVD burner in his SIPRNET machine.

I didn't question it at the time, I just did it, (but knowing that it was highly against policy.) Later while visiting the aircraft carrier early in that morning, nobody was there and that's the moment I struck. How?

By using his machine with the burner. I did all of this personally.

Sounds like someone's workstation, not a dedicated server in a server room.

originally posted by: Willtell
If this guy can prove his profession and that he was in the navy as a PC tech on that ship at the time in question then he’s legit...Maybe.

Just think. Let’s say he was someone who got the tape from the same source the German did and just put it on ATS as TFT, for whatever reason and he wasn’t a tech who copped the tape from the original event.

Maybe…but…

… the fact that a PC tech was on the ship who can verify he was there as a PC tech at the time is too much of a coincidence to not be significant

Right?

Or actually, this cant be proven or disproven from merely this ATS forum.

I’ve already proved this go back and read the posts by Isaac and GUT.

originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: Willtell

His post here

There was a gaping hole and weakness in the SIPRNET network at the time, the ADP officer had instructed me to put a CD/DVD burner in his SIPRNET machine.

I didn't question it at the time, I just did it, (but knowing that it was highly against policy.) Later while visiting the aircraft carrier early in that morning, nobody was there and that's the moment I struck. How?

By using his machine with the burner. I did all of this personally.

Sounds like someone's workstation, not a dedicated server in a server room.