Yea for Transgender Equality!!

a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Apparently, this is becoming a non-issue for him anyway. He is 18 and plans to join the NCAA and also to train for the Olympics; both organizations are not transphobic and allow athletes to compete as the gender they identify as. He just needs to get out of the backwards state of Texas. He’ll be fine and will be able to continue wrestling - as a trans male.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Apparently, this is becoming a non-issue for him anyway. He is 18 and plans to join the NCAA and also to train for the Olympics; both organizations are not transphobic and allow athletes to compete as the gender they identify as. He just needs to get out of the backwards state of Texas. He’ll be fine and will be able to continue wrestling - as a trans male.

Yeah - god forbid someone doesn't get what they want.

It'd be torture!

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: Nuggburner
a reply to: Xtrozero

I'm confused she's a born female that's doping beats up on females that aren't taking testosterone and through sjw math some how it's equality? Lol whatever

Yes, you are a bit confused. He doesn’t want to compete against girls; he wants to compete against the guys. The state won’t let him. Why do you think that is?

Because she is a woman. I would have thought it obvious that the sport would want only men to compete in a mens event.

There’s that denial that Texas is so good at as well. He is a trans male. He has a medical condition called gender dysphoria. He has been medically prescribed testosterone to help make his body correct, to match with his brain. Now that his body is more in line with the boy he knows he is, he wants to compete against other boys.

And if he hasn't gotten a penis yet, since the article doesn't specify, then perhaps that is why the state isn't letting it happen. Better this than a groping scandal, be it accidental or not.

The state has a rule about the birth certificate, specifically. Even if he got the phaloplasty, they'd make him shower with the girls. Because god or something.

a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Yeah, God forbid someone who is good at what they do actually get to do it without being discriminated against!

a reply to: LungFuMoShi

No. she/he has put his own selfish desires first.

If you really want to compete on level playing field, you do it with the body nature gave you and you train that body. You don't alter it with drugs and hormones and other chemicals and then go out and claim the right to compete.

I couldn't get away with shooting myself full of testosterone and other hormones and then running in every track meet against honest girls and women because whatever excuses I made ... the fact would have been that I had chemically altered my body. This person has done the same. It doesn't matter why. What matter is that they are no longer competing clean.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Yeah, God forbid someone who is good at what they do actually get to do it without being discriminated against!

What you mean like all those girls who are good at wrestling and are now being discriminated against by the one girl who gets to wrestle and shoot up with hormones like testosterone while they can't without being banned from competing?

Ironically, even if you let this kid compete with the boys, you're still looking at an athlete juiced with performance enhancers the boys can't take.

a reply to: Abysha

I like you.

originally posted by: ketsuko


Ironically, even if you let this kid compete with the boys, you're still looking at an athlete juiced with performance enhancers the boys can't take.

They don't need to take it - they already have it in their system. Now he does too, which means he can compete with them.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Yeah, God forbid someone who is good at what they do actually get to do it without being discriminated against!

Who is good at what?

A woman taking steroids then winning in a physical sporting event against a woman that isn't does not make you good at something, it means you cheated.

Id have been more impressed is this fight took place before the supplements were taken and she won. But it didn't.

And I don't really care if she's good or not, that's besides the point. the physical strength may be there but the strength of character certainly is not.

A good athlete would take pride in winning fairly and would not buckle under any kind of pressure to knowingly win in such a way.

This person should be embarassed at this whole affair, there is no excuse other than conscious decisions were made.

She is on steroids. Nobody cares if she’s trans whatever, she is competing against other girls and she is on steroids. If anything, this is going to show that she has no sense of sportsmanship. If The only people she can compete against have a serious
disadvantage, how is this even competition?

Sometimes, people make decisions that exclude them from other options? She chose to go through this process, this process includes taking steroids or some kind of testosterone supplement, and the supplements are not allowed in competition. Therefore she should be excluded from competition for the duration of her time on these supplements.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

Yeah, God forbid someone who is good at what they do actually get to do it without being discriminated against!

What you mean like all those girls who are good at wrestling and are now being discriminated against by the one girl who gets to wrestle and shoot up with hormones like testosterone while they can't without being banned from competing?

Ironically, even if you let this kid compete with the boys, you're still looking at an athlete juiced with performance enhancers the boys can't take.

No - that's not what I meant at all.

I don't see what the difficulty is here. Nobody was forced to compete, were they?

Can we agree on that...if so then we must agree that both parties made a conscious decision to partake in the event.

It's really simple. Stand up for your principles...what, exactly - were the consequences if the woman that lost had instead refused to take part on the clear and obvious grounds that it was an unfair match?

Did they threaten to burn her at the stake or something? They sold their souls for what they wanted, it means more. Worried it would damage their image or career.

A clear case of absolute entitlement, it's not hard.

It's kinda like them folks what want to be big and muscular so bad, but are too lazy to actually put in the time and effort.

So they hit the 'roids or they get some ugly implants. It's ill-gotten, isn't being an athlete about pushing yourself to be the very best you can be?

To win through effort, talent and hard work?

What happened to that?

They might call themselves athletes and attempt to compete like them, but they lack the mindset of a truly great athlete. One happily went ahead knwoing they were at an advantage, the other was too weak minded and selfish to stand up for what was right.

a reply to: LungFuMoShi

He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.

You keep saying transphobia, but everybody has issues with the steroids and not with her transition. You do see that right?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Well the NCAA and the Olympics don't seem to have an issue with it, as both organizations have rules in place that allow trans athletes to compete as the gender they identify as.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.

Not one person on this entire thread has said anything Negative about trans people.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.

Not one person on this entire thread has said anything Negative about trans people.

You have GOT to be kidding me. Read the thread again.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: LungFuMoShi

He wants to wrestle the men. Now that he will be leaving the transphobic state of Texas, he will be able to.

Yes, and as i said we've all agreed that if you want you should have.

Wants to compete with men but still chose to go against that to save face. Sold her soul she did, lacked the moral integrity to actually me a man, ironically - and refuse to do something she didn't want to.

What an amazing person.

did something against her will - a means t an end, I guess.

I hope it works out for her.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Woodcarver

Well the NCAA and the Olympics don't seem to have an issue with it, as both organizations have rules in place that allow trans athletes to compete as the gender they identify as.

Do they get to compete while using steroids or testosterone supplements? Because just like I’ve been saying these last couple post nobody gives a flip if she’s trans or not. They don’t wnt her competing on steroids.

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: ketsuko


Ironically, even if you let this kid compete with the boys, you're still looking at an athlete juiced with performance enhancers the boys can't take.

They don't need to take it - they already have it in their system. Now he does too, which means he can compete with them.

It doesn't matter.

They are still competing with the body that *nature gave them*! What part of that can't you comprehend?

Those boys can't shoot up with testosterone anymore than any of the girls can.

I can't help it if you think it's a horrific thing that nature gives males natural testosterone moreso than nature alots to females.