Mutiple shooters confirmed by taxi driver footage WE are being lied too.1st 2 Mins vid

originally posted by: intrptr
Lying about what? You come here to proclaim that... back it up.

You think I have a lie detector test? I have also come to realize that there are youtube moles and most likely ATS moles who argue anything against the elite agenda. I have argued with them, and right when you bring up concrete facts, such as the Rothschilds owning the media, they accuse me of being a "racist" when I just stated a fact. I am not going to play those games with anyone and not even going to let the chance for that. That way of manipulation has been happening for a 100 years! There is nothing I can say to wake people up like you. You are either in line with the government agenda, or you are so stubborn that you refuse to look at any real evidence. My words are for the people that are waking up, and when they read them they will be filled with understanding because they have already begun research and my words are more puzzle pieces that fit into the true agenda.

If you think that the news coverage of this event is NOT filled with the most lies you have ever witnessed on any news event in history, then you are just very very uneducated on body language and obvious obvious things that are happening such as reading cue cards and blatant falsifications, easy uncovered contradictions, and horrible satanists flaunting their 666 hand signs (that come directly form the church of satan) but you are either too dumbed down or too stubborn (or a Jew yourself) to admit to the truth that they are strongly manipulating right in our face. My spirit is broken and I am on the verge of tears, and I know you don't care because you don't care about human life but please leave me alone and let me kick and scream against the evil liars of humanity that have gripped control over all of America's media.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Large buildings of this sort are bound to feature some very finely tuned fire detection gear, primed to make sure that issues can be dealt with before becoming an unquenchable hazard to the entire building and its enormous number of occupants and staff. The best way to do that, is to have your smoke detectors tuned so that they respond to even small amounts of smoke.

There are 2 types of smoke detectors, ionization, photoelectric

Ionization detectors used tiny speck of radioactive Americium 244 to ionize air in small chamber. Ionized air allows
electric current to pass through . Combustion gases entering ionization chamber disrupt electric current tripping alarm

Photoelectric have photosensor . light on sensor causes electric current to flow. Smoke particles entering block sensor
and disrupt electric current tripping alarm.

Ionization detectors are good at detecting hot fast burning fires, photoelectric slow smoky fires.

High end detectors incorporate both type of sensors

Detectors are connected to central station fire command who monitors them and if alarm trips can dispatch Fd or security to area

a reply to: AlienVessel

I see you're newer here. An old homeless adage goes, 'Don't crap where you sleep, and don't eat where you crap'.

Although ATS has its share of disinformation, like the rest of the internet, it is one of the places the truth can still be mined. You just keep panning till you find those nuggets of truth.

originally posted by: firerescue
a reply to: TrueBrit

Large buildings of this sort are bound to feature some very finely tuned fire detection gear, primed to make sure that issues can be dealt with before becoming an unquenchable hazard to the entire building and its enormous number of occupants and staff. The best way to do that, is to have your smoke detectors tuned so that they respond to even small amounts of smoke.

There are 2 types of smoke detectors, ionization, photoelectric

Ionization detectors used tiny speck of radioactive Americium 244 to ionize air in small chamber. Ionized air allows
electric current to pass through . Combustion gases entering ionization chamber disrupt electric current tripping alarm

Photoelectric have photosensor . light on sensor causes electric current to flow. Smoke particles entering block sensor
and disrupt electric current tripping alarm.

Ionization detectors are good at detecting hot fast burning fires, photoelectric slow smoky fires.

High end detectors incorporate both type of sensors

Detectors are connected to central station fire command who monitors them and if alarm trips can dispatch Fd or security to area

Did you guys see this yet?

OK, now the damn light is blue. I'll grant it's not a muzzle flash, but it ain't no smoke alarm either. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THAT ?!?!

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

My friends who were working the event said it's a strobe light in one of the rooms. It was there days before the event and is still in the window. Again, not a huge big deal but it is when people think it was someone shooting. Heard eye witnesses on tv also comment about the strobe in the window, and was there days before the shooting. Too many people trying to be Columbo and think there is some conspiracy here. There isn't there was 1 gunman. Hell, he filmed HIMSELF committing the act.... which will likely be released (In parts) so says the LVPD. No crazy conspiracy, just a well thought out plan by a crazy guy.

I'd like to add something about ballistics and the distance the firing was done from. The .223 AR round and the 7.62x39 AK rounds both lose about half of their impact energy at 300 yards which is about the average distance fired. The rounds slow down to 1/2 for the AK round and by 1/3 for the .223. The .223 round wasn't designed to kill but to wound and simply put enemy combatants out of action. The AK round is a bit heavier but loses much more energy at that range thus causing less damage. A casualty rate of 1 out of 10 approximately is pretty high given the guns and distance.

The bursts of fire heard are much longer than any magazine or even drum can fire which means at least 1 of the weapons fired was a belt-fed full auto machine gun. Videos and eye witness testimony both point to multiple shooters as does the tremendous amount of people killed and wounded. The fact it took police over an hour to find and neutralize the alleged shooter is one more factor that simply doesn't ring true.

Finally, those windows have alarms that go off if broken and the smoke from firing would have surely set off the hotel fire alarms. Combine all these factors and the single shooter theory becomes impossible to believe. Only a black ops unit would have the capability to both kill and wound for such a long time before being stopped. This is an example of our government (some part of it) out of control. To me this is the most blatant false flag operation since 9/11.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

The police arrived on the 32nd floor about 15 minutes after the shooting started. They then spent the next hour evacuating the floor and setting up a plan that would minimize the risk to civilians. This claim that it took police an hour to figure out where he was simply isn't true.

a reply to: Asktheanimals


Such an informative post is unusual. Thanks for the info regarding shooting distance and energy loss by the various rounds 7.62.

Talking over lunch today with some friends, they observed that from the pictures of the hotel rooms we have been shown, there was no visible brass. I wonder if you have any thoughts on that?

Also, maybe I missed it, but in the videos from the ground that I've seen, I did not notice any rounds impacting the surrounding area kicking up dirt. Thanks

originally posted by: EngineerGuY
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan
Hell, he filmed HIMSELF committing the act.... which will likely be released (In parts) so says the LVPD.

Actually, the LV sheriff said that there is no indication he filmed himself. The claim that he left a suicide note is also untrue. Unless the sheriff was lying. Which is possible; there's a ton of disinformation out there on this case.

Still, I'm willing to accept now that it's just a strobe light, and probably not connected to the shooting.

Regardless of whether he was the shooter or just a patsy, I'm convinced he was some kind of arms dealer or gun runner: Consider: there are supposedly records of gun purchases going back years, but all the guns they've found were purchased within the last year. (Where'd the rest of them go?) Also, his family and neighbors saw no indications that he was even interested in guns. The guy owns two planes and travels around constantly. He owned multiple houses, at least one of which was apparently used mainly to store guns. He allegedly earned a lot of money gambling (which is almost impossible, particularly when going against big casinos). He supposedly had plans to fly out after this event, but he still hauled up dozens of guns, when he must have known he would never use most of them?

The theory that ties all of this together is that he made his money selling those guns.

a reply to: 2Faced
Really good attempt at making the gifs. It's a shame it's all so quick to it doesn't come out how you actually see it in the video. Can you edit the part out so it's like a 5 second snip? Still keep sound as well? I think people would get a much better idea.

I actuallly posted the video with the time marks a couple other places today and they were promptly removed. Thought that was kind of strange considering one place was pol and most anything goes there. First they archived it after 4 post then they wiped it from the archive too. Wasn't up but barely 15 minutes at most. Weird

ETA: I'd take a shot at the editing a 5 second snip of it, but I'm on iPad now and nowhere near pc. Be great if you could

I would love to find the cab driver I want to know if they saw us out front when we took our Selfie at 10:02pm and what time they were filming as people were just standing around because we thought it was fireworks!

originally posted by: onehuman
a reply to: 2Faced
Really good attempt at making the gifs. It's a shame it's all so quick to it doesn't come out how you actually see it in the video. Can you edit the part out so it's like a 5 second snip? Still keep sound as well? I think people would get a much better idea.

I actuallly posted the video with the time marks a couple other places today and they were promptly removed. Thought that was kind of strange considering one place was pol and most anything goes there. First they archived it after 4 post then they wiped it from the archive too. Wasn't up but barely 15 minutes at most. Weird

ETA: I'd take a shot at the editing a 5 second snip of it, but I'm on iPad now and nowhere near pc. Be great if you could

Weird indeed, of all places :| So if I suddenly stop smoking, you may assume it was not because I planned to do so

Anyway, concerning the 5sec clip, I have the same problem you have atm. Not the right tools at my disposal. I will make an effort at the first available opportunity. That is, if you, or someone else, didn't allready do it before.

By the way, I have also been analyzing the audio of the clips, and compared the waveforms of 8:12 and 8:35 with eachoter. They practically look like mirror images of eachother, down to the smallest detail. Now all i need to do, is sit thru recordings of all sorts of discharges on YT, to see if I can find a match. However, it will take me a little while before I am able to do so. So again, don't wait for me to resume, if you are able to do it sooner. I don't care who continues it, it's about what we can conclude, not about (my) ego.

Another thing, I must admit, that I have a hard time researching this stuff, and I find it even harder to express my opinion about it in public. If there's one thing I have learned since 9/11/01, is that certain facts and truth's, are usually much harder to bring to the attention of the public, and are often met with ridicule and descent, then a ridiculous sounding lie or a incredible far fetched theory.

Several gunmen or not, it was a HOAX not a false flag. floor 4 had a gunman. Floor 32 was a setup to make it look like a 64 year old dude with no military experience, no interest in guns could use a fully automatic weapon for 11 mins, yeah right. Interesting too that it happened right in front of the all seeing eye.

originally posted by: HKeddie
Several gunmen or not, it was a HOAX not a false flag. floor 4 had a gunman. Floor 32 was a setup to make it look like a 64 year old dude with no military experience, no interest in guns could use a fully automatic weapon for 11 mins, yeah right. Interesting too that it happened right in front of the all seeing eye.

Lemme guess ..

YOu have proof that their were shooters on the 4th floor..please, god , please post yet another of the 880996 clips of a strobe light that CT's have been using..

a reply to: Asktheanimals

The bursts of fire heard are much longer than any magazine or even drum can fire which means at least 1 of the weapons fired was a belt-fed full auto machine gun. Videos and eye witness testimony both point to multiple shooters as does the tremendous amount of people killed and wounded. The fact it took police over an hour to find and neutralize the alleged shooter is one more factor that simply doesn't ring true.

One of the things that I cannot get straight is that:

On several videos, we hear what I initially took to be a heavier machine gun. The rate of fire slows right down at the end of the sequence. I don't know if bump stocks can do this. The other type of devices to make a semi-auto into full-auto requires one to turn a hand crank. This type would slow down if one slows down the hand crank.

I would like anyone with experience with these add ons to comment ... please.

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When this was happening one of the Brit television news channels had a interview with a woman at the concert who stated that a older woman had a argument with either security or hotel staff at the venue and shouted that WE ARE HERE TO KILL YOU ALL .

When i asked others did they see it nobody seems to have noticed it or it was cut from the later news but it made me think wtf

squawker.org...

He warned users to stay away from any gatherings of large groups of people in the Vegas or nearby Henderson areas. Stating that he had insider knowledge of what he referred to as a “high incident project” that was set to occur soon.

a reply to: pheonix358

On several videos, we hear what I initially took to be a heavier machine gun. The rate of fire slows right down at the end of the sequence. I don't know if bump stocks can do this. The other type of devices to make a semi-auto into full-auto requires one to turn a hand crank. This type would slow down if one slows down the hand crank.

I would like anyone with experience with these add ons to comment ... please.

Different caliber weapons - from what I heard had mix of AR 15 (5.56 mm) and AR 10 (7.62 mm)

a reply to: 2Faced


I went ahead and tried to just take out the two snips of the possible Sniper on top of the Pyramid. Make it easier then trying to find them in the whole video. Keep in mind, editing video is not my day job, but I tried my best with what I had to work with. Hopefully you give it a shot as well.


Possible Sniper caught on top of Pyramid taken from the Cab Drivers footage with the sound. It is only 29 seconds long:



This is the video I took the snips from so you can see where I got that time markers. First capture 7:57 and second capture at 8:22 :

originally posted by: tonycodes
The other guy was on the top of the pyramid, where its bright, so you couldn't see his muzzle flash. Plus pyramids are Illuminati. All seeing eye watching all this... anyway, After hearing the video a couple more times I feel he had alot of time in between shots. At this point I cant believe he kept going and then just did himself in. this took ALOT of planning and prep and time to think...

And there you have it. Other guy was on the Illuminati Pyramid.