If the USA doesn't give 100% 'Basic' Medical Coverage to its People - It is Evil

Reality In America .
Get insurance ( car home health work )
car = Get in accident ( your falt or not ) price goes up get in 3 and you cant buy it at any price . Insurance is not about helping you its about them making money they dont make money if they PAY OUT .
Home coverage was there Homestead was totaled by a hurricane Most did NOT get payed out !
health - well lest just say DONT get sick because if you do they pay out once twice 3rd time they cut it off NO matter how long you payed in . Health insurance Only works when your healthy !
work well lord the last 15 years should show you that one . Get sick cant work cant gte insurance louse home cars kids every thing and all this is not just one drinking bum it over 50 million people .
reason why people dont want others to be able to live here is they KNOW they will louse what little they hold on to for dear life ( and by that they know they will be the next one dieing because they got sick and no longer work and no longer have insurance they payed into for 20 years .


Having insurance in America does not mean your go to go get really sick tehy drop you and your DEAD .
having car insurance does not means you get a replacement car .
work insurance does not mean you can pay the bills wile the economy recovers .
Capitalism does not work any better then any other LARGE government as soon as a Government grows beyond a size corruption starts . Greed sets in and it becomes a US or them .

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: InsaneIthorian

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: InsaneIthorian

you presume that I have a low standard of living.

In my country, the standard of living is dependent upon the individual and NOT the government or the collective.

If you say so

Just always keep in mind what happens in countrys where the gap between haves and haves not grow to big.

I am in the "haves" category and recognise that I am out numbered 99 to 1. Not good odds for me.

That's always been the case.

There will always be those that opt for stealing over working for what they want.

Which is why those that can work should work.

But there are some people who fall on hard times, many of which are not there fault such as disability , bad economy ect.

Those are what the saftey nets should provide for.

3 months unemployment benfit, decent disability benfit and health coverage that covers thosw that cant legitimately provide it on there own is what should be provided.

If you dont provide for those very poorest then the rest like the hard left will use it as a way to gather popular support.

a reply to: AlienView
you are proceeding from a false premise. You DO get basic health care. Emergency rooms are required by law to treat you even if you are indigent.

a reply to: 00018GE

you brake your ankle, see what kind of care you get at the emergency room and if it's sufficient enough on it's own to the point where you can ever walk again!!!

Sure, if you want healthcare that's great. But what if you like something different, like say an airplane? I'd much rather have a free airplane than free healthcare. Is it evil that government doesn't want to give me a free airplane, because I really do want one.

If you are unemployed and want free stuff from other people, what would you be prepared to do in return?

a reply to: UKTruth

if you have been paying a portion of your earnings throughout the years while you were working...
believing that if you ever hit hard times and need the assistance yourself you will receive it...

is it really free???

a reply to: AlienView


I see euthanasia on my horizon. M y step son just lost his coverage because the insurer dropped Obamacare. I just want to say thank you too the dems and reps for being the biggest bunch of dumb arses in the universe..............morons.

a reply to: DBCowboy

When did your taxes go up?

a reply to: AlienView

I don't give two #s about other countries and you don't get to separate the politics, the constitutionality and ethics. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. This country is run by the people, the constitution is the contract that the people set in place with those we elect to represent us in the constitutional republic that we put in place.

Health care is not and can't be a right. You cannot have a right to a service provided by another. That is tantamount to slavery or indentured servitude.

Jaden

P.s. I find it funny that the very people who cry out about the horrors of slavery in America 150 years ago are the ones trying to put in place a new version of slavery for all healthcare workers.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: AlienView

Forcing people to pay for someone else's stuff is evil in my opinion. Your opinion just happens to be different and no more valid.

Allowing your fellow citizens to die just because they don't have enough money is the purest evil there is.

a reply to: seeker1963

You get blank stares because they can't believe you don't know entitlement spending is the largest part of the budget and largest contributor to the national debt.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Everyone dies eventually. Its not my duty to prolong your life its yours.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: AlienView

Forcing people to pay for someone else's stuff is evil in my opinion. Your opinion just happens to be different and no more valid.

Allowing your fellow citizens to die just because they don't have enough money is the purest evil there is.

You are laboring under the false premise that money will keep you from dying.

Did money keep Charlie Gard from dying? His parents raised money for him, but he still died because his government empowered the medical apparatus to decide that he would. End of story.

And even if the parents had been allowed to use the money they raised ... he still almost certainly was going to die.

Guess what? We all die.

a reply to: ketsuko

Did money keep Charlie Gard from dying? His parents raised money for him, but he still died because his government empowered the medical apparatus to decide that he would. End of story.

Can we please get this right once and for all.

The U.K. Government played no part in the case of Charlie Gard. Absolute zero input.

The decisions made in his case where made by Medical Practitioner's at Great Ormond Street Hospital. The parents disagreed with their decision and took it through The U.K. court system.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: UKTruth

if you have been paying a portion of your earnings throughout the years while you were working...
believing that if you ever hit hard times and need the assistance yourself you will receive it...

is it really free???

How many haven't paid in anything or very little?
The argument always seems to be one sided... I am just interested to know what would those receiving handouts would be prepared to do in return?

a reply to: UKTruth

How many haven't paid in anything or very little?

Such an easy remark to make.

If, in The U.K. you are born with a disability that makes you unable to ever work, your Healthcare needs are looked after from cradle to grave.

There are always reasons why some people are never able to pay into the system.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth

How many haven't paid in anything or very little?

Such an easy remark to make.

If, in The U.K. you are born with a disability that makes you unable to ever work, your Healthcare needs are looked after from cradle to grave.

There are always reasons why some people are never able to pay into the system.

Deflection.

We know that millions never work and have no disabilities and no reasons not to work.
So the question stands.

a reply to: UKTruth

Rubbish.

You are trying to tar everyone who hasn't paid into the system with the same brush.

Shame on you.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth

Rubbish.

You are trying to tar everyone who hasn't paid into the system with the same brush.

Shame on you.

Another deflection.

Question stands.
What are people receiving handouts prepared to do in return?