The Vertical Plane by Ken Webster - Is this proof of Time manipulation and travel or just a story?

Hello all!

Greetings from yet another Aussie it seems (lol).
I watched a YT video covering the Dodlestone messages and was absolutely amazed but also bewildered.

I believe the occurrence of these events was absolutely 100% real and for me the proof wasn't in the physics/science behind it, but it was rather the spiritual/God/soul aspect to the story that sealed the deal for me.

I have only read up to about page 10 of this thread, and found it overwhelming to continue; so I'm unsure if this topic was previously touched upon?

But if anyone is at all intrigued in what I have to say, then I'd love to throw in my 2c about why I think this is legit and point out a few interesting titbits from 2109 that relate to certain spiritual aspects I have read about so far.

Much love

a reply to: supermangohaze

Hello and glad to see people keeping this thread alive. I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts about this. I think most every imaginable theory has been at least touched on in this thread but maybe you have new ideas, who knows.

I just heard about this earlier this morning. Holy crap this thread is long! I'll try to get through this before asking questions, but I did notice the book is advertised as fiction. Is there any reason the think it is not?

Been reading here and following links elsewhere, and found this - Gary M Rowe is mentioned in conjunction with this, even suggested by 2109. He has a FB page and info on him can be found elsewhere. This article is a about the book, but afterwards is a long discussion featuring Gary Rowe. Whether it's him or not I couldn't say
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a reply to: vlawde

Hey Vlawde, nice to see you here! The thread is long but worth the read if you can I think. I personally don't think that the book is fiction, but that's not to say that I believe that they were communicating with a guy from the 16th century necessarily. I have my own ideas about it but so do many others. Jump in and enjoy the journey.

a reply to: wtbengineer

Thanks! You mean nice to see me in this bsection, or do I kniow you from somewhere else>? Haven't made it through the thread yet, keep going down rabbit holes with links etc.

a reply to: vlawde

Nice to see you in this thread. I guess you probably don't know me at all. I don't post a lot, but I've read many of yours.

When time has equated to trade and money for various goods and services in public leisure and private and on into the intellectual property domain as a wait for it anticipatory response? It's like biting each others heads of experience of and selling it or purging it right back to each other.

Man have noticed that as an ever increasing futility of utility and resources of energy when it has been equated with time and the conservation of it.

When preservation comes to mind graves of past "us" covered in fools gold... progress seems like scrimmage and squabbling over what hasn't ceased in tens of thousands of years is a futility labeled as greed being a waste of time in those that can just sit there as assault after assault occurs of why doesn't what I am perceiving want the new bait on the fish-hook when it is the same thing consumable.

Why are areas full of sand? Harvested trees to see the world desert islands? Learned from others... harvested the trees and went to see more of the world having people visit and applied the bait of how as a hook.

As "time" really goes: The future is continually arriving as an effect of the past & simultaneously; The present is continually resolving the past as an effect.

originally posted by: Crowfoot
When time has equated to trade and money for various goods and services in public leisure and private and on into the intellectual property domain as a wait for it anticipatory response? It's like biting each others heads of experience of and selling it or purging it right back to each other.

Man have noticed that as an ever increasing futility of utility and resources of energy when it has been equated with time and the conservation of it.

When preservation comes to mind graves of past "us" covered in fools gold... progress seems like scrimmage and squabbling over what hasn't ceased in tens of thousands of years is a futility labeled as greed being a waste of time in those that can just sit there as assault after assault occurs of why doesn't what I am perceiving want the new bait on the fish-hook when it is the same thing consumable.

Why are areas full of sand? Harvested trees to see the world desert islands? Learned from others... harvested the trees and went to see more of the world having people visit and applied the bait of how as a hook.

As "time" really goes: The future is continually arriving as an effect of the past & simultaneously; The present is continually resolving the past as an effect.

No idea what it is you're trying to say, this reads like a bad google translation

a reply to: CromCruachh

I read a book, Space Time Transients by Michael Persinger that seems to explain using physics how the events in the book are possible...

Promising announcement from Swansea UFO Network (Youtube news).
They managed to interview Gary Rowe about his involvement in the Vertical Plane case and are going to place that video on YouTube in the next few weeks (February).
youtu.be...

a reply to: candide44
Hey thanks for putting this out there. I had no idea this was coming out. I subscribed to the channel so hopefully I won't miss it when it's up. I hope sputniksteve sees your post.

a reply to: wtbengineer

It's here
youtu.be...

a reply to: candide44

Thanks for the reminder. I'd forgotten you mentioned this.

Not much new here for any that have followed Mr. Rowe on a blog post or two related to TVP he's commented on, but a couple nuggets for sure and some perspective we missed out on in TVP.

a reply to: candide44

Yes, thanks!

Oh crap, I can't watch it. Apparently it's private.

a reply to: wtbengineer
I marked it to watch later and now it's private
Unfortunately, I don't know the details, it was supposed to be a treat for tonight. But well...
I hope it'll be back online soon.

a reply to: wtbengineer

Oh well, thanks for putting it up. Eventually we'll get to see it I'm sure.

I'm late to the party here and haven't read the whole of this gargantuan thread, but the Why Files (WF) did a piece on this just a year ago.

I'm able to watch the Dodelston Time Warp with Gary Rowe

Rainbows
Jane
PS.... well that's weird.... when I posted the link to Gary Rowe's interview, I was only half way through, the link says private, but I'm still watching his interview as I type this!!! 23.16 UK time

This OP reminds me of this Internet story of a guy finding a portal under his sink: link

I think the odds of a fairy tale land existing in a 4th dimension more likely than traveling back in time (grandfather paradox).

a reply to: angelchemuel

Hey angel, I've seen that WF episode. I like AJ's stuff. I don't know what the problem is, why it displays that private message.