Two activists who filmed undercover videos of Planned Parenthood charged with 15 felonies

originally posted by: veracity
Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

Wow dude, 2 penises has already hit the porn scene. 2 is better than 1 right? Cherry pick dead babies? well score one up for the scientific community for ending life purposely and then re-studying it. Cuz dead babies are a lot cooler than live ones. And you say you dont support abortion and no one does? Really, I beg to differ - The choice to kill your child has always been there and nobody can take that away from you - free will and all.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Foreshadow
Oh and by the way, You can have an abortion at any stage - hell let it be 2 mins before giving birth - just use the proper tools and "Get er done"

cool
at what 'stage' can a woman birth a baby

2 minutes?

Well the earliest a a woman could have a baby is about 21 weeks. Any earlier and the baby cant survive no matter what doctors do. And even then its very difficult for the baby survive.

but dragon...
these people kill babies as early as 6 weeks into pregnancy

ah. tired of being sarcastic

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

Actually when that one creature said that she would talk to the doctor about using a less crunchy method, she was breaking the law.

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity
Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

Wow dude, 2 penises has already hit the porn scene. 2 is better than 1 right? Cherry pick dead babies? well score one up for the scientific community for ending life purposely and then re-studying it. Cuz dead babies are a lot cooler than live ones. And you say you dont support abortion and no one does? Really, I beg to differ - The choice to kill your child has always been there and nobody can take that away from you - free will and all.

we just look at it differently, im sure we have very different lives as well.

One of us is much more open-minded on the subject and the other one can only see ^^^^DEAD BABIES^^^

lets just say I would never want to be in your shoes

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

Actually when that one creature said that she would talk to the doctor about using a less crunchy method, she was breaking the law.

how?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

If legality is the be all, end all, then what's the point of ever discussing anything? Laws change and they usually change due to emotional populism. The civil rights movement was an outstanding example of that. Separate but equal was perfectly legal, so what were those folks thinking discussing whether it was moral and just or not?

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: burdman30ott6

according to reincarnation, the soul does not enter the baby till after birth, sometimes weeks after birth.

Pardon me, I thought we were discussing reality here, not new age theoretical nonsense.

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

Actually when that one creature said that she would talk to the doctor about using a less crunchy method, she was breaking the law.

how?

Altering the procedure to produce a more valuable "tissue sample" is illegal.

I'll be right here when you're done fact-checking me...

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity
Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

Wow dude, 2 penises has already hit the porn scene. 2 is better than 1 right? Cherry pick dead babies? well score one up for the scientific community for ending life purposely and then re-studying it. Cuz dead babies are a lot cooler than live ones. And you say you dont support abortion and no one does? Really, I beg to differ - The choice to kill your child has always been there and nobody can take that away from you - free will and all.

we just look at it differently, im sure we have very different lives as well.

One of us is much more open-minded on the subject and the other one can only see ^^^^DEAD BABIES^^^

lets just say I would never want to be in your shoes

I think that's a broad stroke of the Pen to call me Non Open Minded. This is one of those issues in life that I'm very passionate about and there's no room for sway. I'm very open to music, love, justice, and other peoples way of life. And that's just it, I care for life and other peoples well being. I see some of the good in PP and I also see very vile things that make me want to puke. Absolutely we have different opinions, and I've bit my tongue on this issue for a long time. I guess today is the day lol

...And yeah you probably wouldn't want to be in my shoes, but if it was cold and snowy outside - I'd gladly lend you my boots - Cheers

...And

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: veracity
a reply to: burdman30ott6

according to reincarnation, the soul does not enter the baby till after birth, sometimes weeks after birth.

Pardon me, I thought we were discussing reality here, not new age theoretical nonsense.

your reality is not necessarily everyone elses...let me guess, you are pro-life?

anyways, just bc the western world is behind on reincarnation does not mean its not real.

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity
Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

Wow dude, 2 penises has already hit the porn scene. 2 is better than 1 right? Cherry pick dead babies? well score one up for the scientific community for ending life purposely and then re-studying it. Cuz dead babies are a lot cooler than live ones. And you say you dont support abortion and no one does? Really, I beg to differ - The choice to kill your child has always been there and nobody can take that away from you - free will and all.

we just look at it differently, im sure we have very different lives as well.

One of us is much more open-minded on the subject and the other one can only see ^^^^DEAD BABIES^^^

lets just say I would never want to be in your shoes

I think that's a broad stroke of the Pen to call me Non Open Minded. This is one of those issues in life that I'm very passionate about and there's no room for sway. I'm very open to music, love, justice, and other peoples way of life. And that's just it, I care for life and other peoples well being. I see some of the good in PP and I also see very vile things that make me want to puke. Absolutely we have different opinions, and I've bit my tongue on this issue for a long time. I guess today is the day lol

...And yeah you probably wouldn't want to be in my shoes, but if it was cold and snowy outside - I'd gladly lend you my boots - Cheers

...And

just bc someone is pro choice or even has had an abortion before does not mean they do not care for life and others well-being. Yes, i do think that sometimes people have abortions for selfish reasons, but for the most part, its bc they are not ready to have a child or are a child themselves.

However, people should get the choice to be selfish or not and people like you and other pro-lifers need to stay out of their business and keep to themselves. If you dont like abortions...dont have one. It really is as simple as that.

Would you want people demanding what you do with your reproductive organs, what if there was a group of people out there that was demanding you have 2 penises?

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

Actually when that one creature said that she would talk to the doctor about using a less crunchy method, she was breaking the law.

how?

Altering the procedure to produce a more valuable "tissue sample" is illegal.

I'll be right here when you're done fact-checking me...

i dont need nor do i want to fact check that silliness

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

Actually when that one creature said that she would talk to the doctor about using a less crunchy method, she was breaking the law.

how?

Altering the procedure to produce a more valuable "tissue sample" is illegal.

I'll be right here when you're done fact-checking me...

i dont need nor do i want to fact check that silliness

But babies are cute, why would they be charged?

I want a baby, so your va JJ should be under my control!

You don't get to decide to be fat, ugly, and broke, that's my job!

Lol

All I have read so far is Pro-Choice people are Against Undercover Journalism. Lying about identity is the keystone of undercover journalism.
Editing isnt any worse than a 60 minutes show.

An To top it off they are in love with California's strict recording laws relative to the rest of the nation, a blow against free speech and journalism again.


This whole topic should be thrown in the mud pit, its nasty in here.

a reply to: jellyrev

Yeah I have to disagree.
Editing for context to fit a narrative isn't journalism, it's manipulation.

Pro choice is pro freedom.

I am pro choice, and you are telling me I'm pro surveillance?

Do you know how insane that sounds?

You are literally saying avoid privacy laws and that pro choice people want them increased.

You can't have freedom without privacy.

I agree with the mudpit suggestion.

a reply to: jellyrev

it wasnt undercover journalism...it was FRAUD! It was a straight up LIE.

Not to mention libel

Underground journalism to shed light on underground subjects is great, this was to garner hate and misinformation and lies to pro-lifers.

There IS a difference.

Heavily edited footage is NOT underground journalism.

Underground journalism is raw, unedited info

basically, as don would say...its FAKE NEWS

a reply to: veracity

So the Planned Parenthood employees were dubbed over and didn't say what the embedded videos I posted show they are saying?

LMAO, "fake" news, indeed.

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity

originally posted by: Foreshadow

originally posted by: veracity
Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

Wow dude, 2 penises has already hit the porn scene. 2 is better than 1 right? Cherry pick dead babies? well score one up for the scientific community for ending life purposely and then re-studying it. Cuz dead babies are a lot cooler than live ones. And you say you dont support abortion and no one does? Really, I beg to differ - The choice to kill your child has always been there and nobody can take that away from you - free will and all.

we just look at it differently, im sure we have very different lives as well.

One of us is much more open-minded on the subject and the other one can only see ^^^^DEAD BABIES^^^

lets just say I would never want to be in your shoes

I think that's a broad stroke of the Pen to call me Non Open Minded. This is one of those issues in life that I'm very passionate about and there's no room for sway. I'm very open to music, love, justice, and other peoples way of life. And that's just it, I care for life and other peoples well being. I see some of the good in PP and I also see very vile things that make me want to puke. Absolutely we have different opinions, and I've bit my tongue on this issue for a long time. I guess today is the day lol

...And yeah you probably wouldn't want to be in my shoes, but if it was cold and snowy outside - I'd gladly lend you my boots - Cheers

...And

just bc someone is pro choice or even has had an abortion before does not mean they do not care for life and others well-being. Yes, i do think that sometimes people have abortions for selfish reasons, but for the most part, its bc they are not ready to have a child or are a child themselves.

However, people should get the choice to be selfish or not and people like you and other pro-lifers need to stay out of their business and keep to themselves. If you dont like abortions...dont have one. It really is as simple as that.

Would you want people demanding what you do with your reproductive organs, what if there was a group of people out there that was demanding you have 2 penises?

I never said they don't care for life, I said I do! Bad decisions that affect them in the long run... of course. Oh and by the way, Is anyone "ready to have a child"? There's so many unexpected things that happen along the way, any Parent can say attest to that. I don't get in anyone's business in real life and try to tell them how it is - My friend had an abortion and I listened and cried with Empathy for her for hours. This is a message board and I'll voice my frustrations here - thankyou! I wish You would quit trying to paint me into this corner of another Pro-life person that you've experienced. Also, abortion is legal so please quit with that nonsense - abort away my friends

So in a nutshell - I think abortion is vile, damaging to others, lifelong guilt and just damn immoral. You have your choice to do as you will, No one is f*****g with your reproductive organs

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: veracity

So the Planned Parenthood employees were dubbed over and didn't say what the embedded videos I posted show they are saying?

LMAO, "fake" news, indeed.

you are going to believe whatever it is you want to, even if it is heavily edited and out of context.

I cannot converse with people like you, people who know it all yet have the most narrow minds.