Two activists who filmed undercover videos of Planned Parenthood charged with 15 felonies

originally posted by: TinySickTears

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

You do realize that they are killed before being removed from the womb so as not to fit the definition of baby, right?

Location, location, location!

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance

Recording confidential information without consent and then releasing it is illegal in CA?

I wouldn't consider a conversation in a crowded restaurant or at a party as confidential.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Would you please point me to information on the States and their investigations?

The facts that have been presented 'so far' show that legal action has not moved forward because the evidence produced was so heavily edited that "they have no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries”. Progressives (for the most part) want to state that the videos show PP being quoted out of context and jump to the defense, but I can agree that this really shouldn't be an left/right issue, and I'm sure there are people who identify as conservative that think the videos are edited to present falsehood as truth.

So far I have seen no evidence presented that shows these videos to quote out of context.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: TinySickTears

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

You do realize that they are killed before being removed from the womb so as not to fit the definition of baby, right?

Location, location, location!

no i dont realize that
so a woman can birth a baby after being pregnant for only 6 weeks? damn....medicine has come a long way

cause a woman can have an abortion at 6 weeks

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Foreshadow
a reply to: TinySickTears

I never said that's all they do

besides slaying babies what else do they do?
any idea?

and baby does have a definition. no semantics about it

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

"Baby" does have different definitions to different people - were you looking for Fetus / Near-born Fetus / Unborn baby / zygote etc? Yes semantics are involved, but I think you got my Gist. I'll continue using Baby tho. Oh and by the way, You can have an abortion at any stage - hell let it be 2 mins before giving birth - just use the proper tools and "Get er done"

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Attempts to block the videos were made during the flap.
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: TinySickTears

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

You do realize that they are killed before being removed from the womb so as not to fit the definition of baby, right?

Location, location, location!

no i dont realize that
so a woman can birth a baby after being pregnant for only 6 weeks? damn....medicine has come a long way

cause a woman can have an abortion at 6 weeks

A woman can have an abortion in the third trimester, when ALL viable babies are born. Your point?

originally posted by: Foreshadow
Oh and by the way, You can have an abortion at any stage - hell let it be 2 mins before giving birth - just use the proper tools and "Get er done"

cool
at what 'stage' can a woman birth a baby

2 minutes?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yet they are still available on Youtube. So what's the problem? You can go view them now despite what Breitbart is yelling about.

You realize that your articles are merely just blocking the videos from being used as evidence right? One of your links even says temporary.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: TinySickTears

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

You do realize that they are killed before being removed from the womb so as not to fit the definition of baby, right?

Location, location, location!

no i dont realize that
so a woman can birth a baby after being pregnant for only 6 weeks? damn....medicine has come a long way

cause a woman can have an abortion at 6 weeks

A woman can have an abortion in the third trimester, when ALL viable babies are born. Your point?

never said they couldnt.
my point was a baby is not the same as a fetus


people come in these threads with the pro abortionists kill babies

its bull#
but it fits their views i guess.

i mean at least can we call it pro choice?

they dont sound evil enough though

a reply to: Krazysh0t

No it's not necessarily the same thing. Show me the evidence that shows the videos were edited to push a false narrative and not edited to remove "fluff"


Oh and to actually respond to the OP, good these people conducted illegal surveillance and should be brought to trial.

a reply to: LockNLoad

I already did. You told me it doesn't count because PP hired the independent investigators. So you've already demonstrated that you don't care about evidence that contradicts your chosen narrative.

a reply to: TinySickTears

at what stage? I hear Paris has an immaculate stage. Moulin Rouge comes to mind. It's on the to do list one day

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I just don't want to link to them in the thread as I feel they are already debunked and it is a waste of time getting into the intricacies of the videos all over again when that discussion is already settled.

Then by all means, fly...ointment, ointment...fly.






Now, go ahead and tell me how in the hell you debunk a Planned Parenthood employee recorded talking about haggling over sale ERRRR pardon, shipping prices of various types of aborted fetuses AND how PP tries to direct mothers in what type of procedure they should accept based on the clinic financial needs at the time.

Again, you keep saying this has been debunked, but it hasn't... all that has occured is the videographer has been charged with illegally obtaining recordings, the actual content, THE CLINIC'S STAFF WORDS, have never been in doubt. The only two variables here are whether the viewer cares about the legality surrounding how the footage was obtained and whether or not that footage is repugnant to said viewer.

Good news, such jerks.

I understand if you are pro-life, well actually i do not get that mentality. its like me saying "i support having a 2 penises so I want everyone else to have 2 as well" but ...

Even if you are pro-life...you can't cherry pick "dead babies". There is so much that goes into "dead babies" that helps live babies. So much scientific research that benefits our economy greatly.

I dont support abortions, no one does. I do support the choice. And if the choice is made to abort...lets make the best of it.

a reply to: TinySickTears

By your own definition, late term abortion kills a baby thanks to said baby being viable if it was born on the day of the abortion.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

You've already admitted that these videos recorded nothing illegal so I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

according to reincarnation, the soul does not enter the baby till after birth, sometimes weeks after birth.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I didn't say it didn't count I just 'quoted' the people that actually did the "investigation", so please show me where in the article 'you linked' that it say that the videos were edited to push a narrative. Or are you just reading between the lines to validate 'your' chosen narrative?

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Foreshadow
Oh and by the way, You can have an abortion at any stage - hell let it be 2 mins before giving birth - just use the proper tools and "Get er done"

cool
at what 'stage' can a woman birth a baby

2 minutes?

Well the earliest a a woman could have a baby is about 21 weeks. Any earlier and the baby cant survive no matter what doctors do. And even then its very difficult for the baby survive.