Two activists who filmed undercover videos of Planned Parenthood charged with 15 felonies

a reply to: Krazysh0t

but krazysh0t......
they kill babies dontcha know

ha

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Only exonerated in the biased progressive mind, if a person was being truly honest with themselves they should be able to step back and understand that there was no legal actions taken because the videos were so edited they had "no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries”, not because the information on the videos was false.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Wow, that's the best example you can find to refute the reality of what is being discussed here?

The videos were hack jobs by a known fraudster. This has been known for quite some time.

Now, the State of California is going after the known fraudsters for their crimes committed that they were dumb enough to commit to video and written confessions.

We'll see what happens.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

He didn't edit to make things "appear" immoral. Nothing said on those videos has been disputed in terms of whether or not it was said.

I asked what the issue was with the videos being viewed last year, man. They contain inconvenient, opinion shifting footage, so obviously the Yay Abortion! crowd was pissed off about them and needed the inconvenient facts shown within to quickly go away before PP lost tax and donation money. My point, as it has been since the beginning of this is that whether or not the videographers broke the law, the facts are what they are. The legality of what PP did is one issue, if it was all legal then no charges should stem from it... the morality of their practices, however, are in the eyes of the beholder and I find it amusing that the pro abortion crowd got pissy because they lost control of the narrative the public was exposed to, threatening their continued suckling at John Q. Public's teat.

originally posted by: LockNLoad
not because the information on the videos was false.

so it wasnt false?
hmmmmmmmm


i like how members of the above like to call it pro abortion......why not pro choice?

originally posted by: LockNLoad
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Only exonerated in the biased progressive mind, if a person was being truly honest with themselves they should be able to step back and understand that there was no legal actions taken because the videos were so edited they had "no evidentiary value in a legal context and cannot be relied upon for any official inquiries”, not because the information on the videos was false.

There was no legal action taken against Planned Parenthood because there was no crimes committed. Multiple states conducted their own investigations (another waste of taxpayer dollars to BS) and found ZERO wrongdoing.

It has nothing to do with whatever a "progressive mind" is in your estimation ... it has to do with the facts.

a reply to: Gryphon66

NONE OF THE CHARGES RELATE TO THE ACTUAL VIDEO SHOWN

The "Fraud" is that the videographer signed off on being a different identity than he was to gain access to the facility. Yeah, the Russia hack meme stands.

a reply to: LockNLoad

You realize that is the same thing right? They were edited to show a false narrative so they cannot be used as videos. But really you are arguing an old conversation. You were proven wrong on this a year ago. Arguing with me about it now isn't going to change anything. Though it does show that you don't care about updating your opinion when new information comes to light that contradicts your chosen narrative.

a reply to: burdman30ott6
So your entire argument comes back to one of morality? Who cares? Pro-choicers already knew you guys thought that abortion was immoral. This is nothing new. And using proven heavily edited videos as confirmation bias fodder for your opinion of immorality is just par the course for pro-lifers. This isn't the first time the pro-life activists have attempted deceitful videos that play to pro-lifers' confirmation biases either.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Gryphon66

NONE OF THE CHARGES RELATE TO THE ACTUAL VIDEO SHOWN

The "Fraud" is that the videographer signed off on being a different identity than he was to gain access to the facility. Yeah, the Russia hack meme stands.

Is there any topic that you can resist bringing "Russia" into? Christ, talk about obsession.

Of course the charges relate to the videos ... how did the videos get made??? What would the video have been like with the guy standing in the parking lot talking to himself?

A modicum of rationality at least is in order, don't you think?

They were charged under the medical privacy act that makes it illegal for anyone to receive information without consent from the patient or the medical facility. I can bet everyone has had a run in with that wonderful privacy act law! If your own kids are not on the consent form for receiving information about your health, they're denied access! I know at our local hospital, nurses and medical practitioners can get into a lot of trouble if they release any medical information about their patients. I can understand keeping strangers from accessing medical information but your own wife and kids???

I had a dentist for years who abruptly stopped working. I was informed I had to choose another dentist in the building. I was concerned thinking the poor guy had cancer or some other devastating illness that caused him to quit. When I asked the dental hygienist what happened to him, she politely said she was prohibited to give out any information about him because of the medical privacy act.

Now congress just overturned the "internet privacy regulation" which allows ISPS to sell personal information to advertisers without getting permission. This just shows who your representatives truly work for. They definitely don't protect the privacy rights of their constituents when it comes to corporate outside pressure.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Foreshadow
a reply to: Krazysh0t

What's there to debate? Does Planned Parenthood kill babies for a living? I think we all know the answer to that

i know the answer but apparently you dont.
they do not kill babies

youre an idiot if you believe that

What exactly does PP do then Genius? IF You can't recognize that they Kill for a living, then You Yourself just might be the dumbest person on the face of this Earth. And with compfy incomes from Uncle Sam to boot. Hopefully Trump cuts the funding to this Morally Corrupt group. I'm waiting for the Semantics argument on what a "baby" is to begin...

What a F-ing Joke!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Gryphon66

NONE OF THE CHARGES RELATE TO THE ACTUAL VIDEO SHOWN

The "Fraud" is that the videographer signed off on being a different identity than he was to gain access to the facility. Yeah, the Russia hack meme stands.

Is there any topic that you can resist bringing "Russia" into? Christ, talk about obsession.

Of course the charges relate to the videos ... how did the videos get made??? What would the video have been like with the guy standing in the parking lot talking to himself?

A modicum of rationality at least is in order, don't you think?

I don't recall bringing Russia into any other topics of late. Do me a solid and put some money where your mouth is and toss me a link or two, of you would.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6
So your entire argument comes back to one of morality? Who cares? Pro-choicers already knew you guys thought that abortion was immoral. This is nothing new. And using proven heavily edited videos as confirmation bias fodder for your opinion of immorality is just par the course for pro-lifers. This isn't the first time the pro-life activists have attempted deceitful videos that play to pro-lifers' confirmation biases either.

Exactly, so what harm were these videos and why such a huge outrage to block them from public view at the time?

originally posted by: Foreshadow



What exactly does PP do then Genius? IF You can't recognize that they Kill for a living, then You Yourself just might be the dumbest person on the face of this Earth.

hahahahahaha...
funny

you got me

all they do is slay babies....

a reply to: TinySickTears

I never said that's all they do

a reply to: TinySickTears

I don't know, and I'm not as arrogant as most and jump to a conclusion of wrong doing OR exoneration.

originally posted by: Foreshadow
a reply to: TinySickTears

I never said that's all they do

besides slaying babies what else do they do?
any idea?

and baby does have a definition. no semantics about it

you can have an abortion at 6 weeks.....
you cant have a baby at 6 weeks though

Recording confidential information without consent and then releasing it is illegal in CA?

Just like when it happened to Trump in in his private dressing room?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6
So your entire argument comes back to one of morality? Who cares? Pro-choicers already knew you guys thought that abortion was immoral. This is nothing new. And using proven heavily edited videos as confirmation bias fodder for your opinion of immorality is just par the course for pro-lifers. This isn't the first time the pro-life activists have attempted deceitful videos that play to pro-lifers' confirmation biases either.

Exactly, so what harm were these videos and why such a huge outrage to block them from public view at the time?

Who is blocking them from public view? What are you talking about? They are still available to view on Youtube. No one has taken them down. I just don't want to link to them in the thread as I feel they are already debunked and it is a waste of time getting into the intricacies of the videos all over again when that discussion is already settled.