Sweden on the brink? Police force pushed to breaking point by violence amid migrant influx

a reply to: LardoCalorissian

Im no liberale...im a socialist.

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: numb3rs

I have no problem with immigration, legal immigration.

Do we need to have this discussion? Again?

The information in the article in your link from the Express doesn't even mention any illegal immigration. It doesn't explicitly say that immigrants are directly and solely behind the current policing shortfall........................ but the Express implies it is. So what discussion do you really want to have?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: numb3rs

Diversity is good if the newly introduced immigrants can gel with the over whelming host nation. If they can't or won't this can and does lead to problems.

Then when you introduce immigrants that a violent, it gets bad in a hurry.

So you are obviously intelligent.
You just 'chose' to fall for and echo the the biased reports and massaged statistics.

food for thought...

originally posted by: LardoCalorissian
a reply to: uncommitted

calling Moroccans scum.

Most of them are.....

Watch the weekly Dutch crime show, it's just one "North African appearance" after the other.

Sorry, Geert Wilders is the absolute scum of the earth to me, the man is a joke. But hey, you like your eggs with a nice dose of facism on the side then that's your life. At least you are honest by saying your country should be all white. T's and C's prevent me from saying what I think about you but so many on here won't admit to such rampant racism so that's something.

a reply to: Felicio

You obviously have the mindset I was talking about, and the two obviously overlap.

a reply to: odzeandennz

No, the stats will not sway or change the statement I made. If immigrants come to a country legally and gel (not become) with the countries citizens, all will be well.

Is this divisive to you?

a reply to: seasonal

Sweden has over 20,000 police officers. Not sure 3 a day actually sounds like that high a turnover rate.

originally posted by: LardoCalorissian
a reply to: numb3rs

I am applying the concept of "diversity" to my country.

People are always talking about diversity as if it is somehow better than the natural situation. So I ask, is it a problem that our population has always been one of white western Europeans.

Apparently diversity is better.

Again, the way you're phrasing it is to fit some narrative; be more open minded.

We aren't diverse? Our population is one of White Western Europeans? Are you hedging literal details? We're the most diverse country on the planet. Western Europe alone is comprised of many countries...Are you Swedish? I am...Does this make me just a "White Western European" instead because I'm from America?

The point is we were the most diverse, and it was a genuine quality that made us literally the best and greatest country, and literally as that slipped, so did we. It's a profound observation.

a reply to: uncommitted

Geert Wilders is the absolute scum of the earth to me, the man is a joke

Must suck when he will become our PM.

At least you are honest by saying your country should be all white.

Is it worse than saying that it somehow should not be predominantly white, or consist of west Europeans, like it always did historically and naturally?

People like you are obviously saying that diversity is better. Why is it better? Is there something wrong with the population being natural, like it was?

That's racist!

America is a new country consisting of immigrants.

Ask the natives how they felt about your diversity.

regarding the netherlands
data is sourced from statline.cbs.nl... statistics netherlands.
There is a reason countries like sweden attempt to hide the data.




The first graph shows these people are reverse assimilating.

originally posted by: LardoCalorissian
America is a new country consisting of immigrants.

Ask the natives how they felt about your diversity.

You mean the oldest repeating story ever in America?

Two clashing cultures that eventually consummate together?

The point is your supposed to collectively heal and mend the difference at the end in America. Not just hate them forever. Nothing else about natives being eradicated in any other part of the world has this. Enjoy your next Thanksgiving, if you were from somewhere else you wouldn't even know about the indigenous people most likely.

a reply to: ScepticScot

That is a great point.

Do we know the numbers from let's say 10 years ago to compare?

a reply to: jellyrev

"The frist graph shows these People are reverse assimilating"

Is it? Or do they Just show the proportion of crime supects by generation?

What made the USA special is that we at one point(I don't honestly know if 'we do' anymore) appreciated immigrants. The reasoning behind this was diversity.

Nonsense. The US did not bring in immigrants to promote diversity. That is silly. The brought in immigrants to work in the factories and develop the large expanse of undeveloped land.
The US government repeatedly stomped on various immigrant groups
The US government repeatedly implemented Quota Systems favoring western europe.
The american people were repeatedly worried about preserving cultureal homogeneity.
This is until 1965 when the modern immigration act was put in place, an act few noticed at the time.

Mixing the british isles with germans(scots, irish, welsh, english, germans constitute most whites in US) is totally not the same thing as trying to mix hispanics or arabs with western culture.

a reply to: LardoCalorissian

Fairly pathetic populist response that I would have expected. It won't suck for me if Wilders gets the insecure, the facists, the neo nazis out in force to vote for him because I don't live there - and if he should win I will be glad that isn't the case.

Anyway, is diversity better? Well, a closed gene pool ends up with an inbred, stupid population. It's always easy for the gullible to believe their life isn't the success they think it should be not because of any inadequacies of their own, but that it's always someone else's fault, someone different to them stopping them being who they can be............. you might want to read up on Hitler a bit, but I'm guessing you already have.

Culture is always enriched by mixing with other cultures - no populist answer from me - the world is never that simple.

a reply to: Felicio

I misspoke.
The second generation is raised in Dutch schools in dutch culture and has even higher crime rates. their crime rates should move closer to the dutch number.
Something is not going right.

originally posted by: Felicio
a reply to: jellyrev

"The frist graph shows these People are reverse assimilating"

Is it? Or do they Just show the proportion of crime supects by generation?

It shows that the second generation has a higher percentage of criminals than the first, so yes, it shows they are causing more trouble than the previous generation.

a reply to: jellyrev

Interesting but total BS set of stats, how can 'non western' stat for proportion of crime suspects be 4.54, and then in the same stat include actual 'non western' countries be higher? How come it doesn't amount to 100% in total for the set of statistics? You are western or not, surely?